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Mar 23, 2009 19:58:05 GMT -5
Post by vito on Mar 23, 2009 19:58:05 GMT -5
Well in two years I will be officially into WW2 airsoft. [So I can drive myself to the events etc..] So I will start building a kit now. The only problem is I can't find any affordable good guns. [Range 100-400 MAX]. Also I like to play the side with less people, do more people tend to play Axis or Allies? Can anyone also direct me to some cheap guns?
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Mar 23, 2009 21:03:34 GMT -5
Post by Medic on Mar 23, 2009 21:03:34 GMT -5
I'd say more people do Allies. There are tons of threads about guns, look 'em up.
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Mar 23, 2009 21:45:23 GMT -5
Post by vito on Mar 23, 2009 21:45:23 GMT -5
Ok only found a few decent Axis guns. I will be becoming a medic, so what would work better, a AGM STG44, AGM MP40 or a K98 springer?
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Mar 23, 2009 21:47:55 GMT -5
Post by deuce on Mar 23, 2009 21:47:55 GMT -5
Well, Medics didnt carry weapons, at least they weren't suppose to.
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Mar 23, 2009 22:39:13 GMT -5
Post by vito on Mar 23, 2009 22:39:13 GMT -5
I know that but during a skirmish, medics can only use a pistol?
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Mar 23, 2009 22:42:17 GMT -5
Post by mccallion on Mar 23, 2009 22:42:17 GMT -5
medics dont use a gun at all and a german medic with a stg44 is total farb lol
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Mar 24, 2009 8:59:24 GMT -5
Post by Tobbe on Mar 24, 2009 8:59:24 GMT -5
Well since this is airsoft,not reenactment i'd go with the stg44..
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Mar 24, 2009 9:14:53 GMT -5
Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on Mar 24, 2009 9:14:53 GMT -5
Do yourself a large favor friend, if you want to do a German impression, do it right the first time through; do it little by little. I’d recommend that you find a German unit within a reasonable distance to yourself and ask them to help you out with regards to what weapon, gear and impression you should do. In a phrase, ask them to show you the ropes!
Personally, I don’t really see the need for a medic. However, if you have your heart set on it, then by all means do what you will.
As far as what weapon you should choose. I’d recommend the AGM MP-40 for your first gun. It is not exactly that it is better than the STG-44, however, it is light weight, doesn’t shoot very hard (+400FPS), affordable and comes with low a cap magazine; not to mention the magazines are cheap. The MP-40 was also used in larger numbers.
Anyway, these are just my opinions. From one German Airsofter to the next. Good luck!
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Mar 24, 2009 12:30:28 GMT -5
Post by Lev on Mar 24, 2009 12:30:28 GMT -5
What part of the country are you in? I think it's important to find a unit you gel with before starting your journey. They can help you move forward in a focused manner. While Axis is more common nationwide, it's not the case in the Midwest for example.
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Mar 24, 2009 15:42:24 GMT -5
Post by ersatzjack2 on Mar 24, 2009 15:42:24 GMT -5
Udo is right as always. Before you go off on your airsoft journey you should determine (like Udo said) what things look like in your region. That should determine what impression you want to build. If your main goal is to play on the side with fewer players, that is. In the midwest there were quite a few U.S. impressions but that's died off (in my opinion) and German and Russian are more predominant. Using your criteria, you would want to build a U.S. impression if you're from the midwest. But we really can't advise you in other areas because you don't tell us much.
You may also want to consider using different criteria to choose your impression. People come and go and the faces and side balances change. You might want to consider other factors when deciding on what kit you're going to build.
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Mar 24, 2009 17:32:02 GMT -5
Post by vito on Mar 24, 2009 17:32:02 GMT -5
I live in Virginia, can't find a unit nearby. The only "re-enactments" are vietnam.
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Mar 24, 2009 18:29:59 GMT -5
Post by Medic on Mar 24, 2009 18:29:59 GMT -5
As an Aid Man/Sanitater, you cannot carry pistols or "offensive weapons" (I've done this rant about a million times, I should just post it in my signature.) Most people shoot at sight of weapon, if you have a rifle, you're done. Once you fire, you Geneva Convention protection is compromised and the Red Cross on your head becomes a bullseye.
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Mar 24, 2009 20:26:24 GMT -5
Post by ersatzjack2 on Mar 24, 2009 20:26:24 GMT -5
I live in Virginia, can't find a unit nearby. The only "re-enactments" are vietnam. Virginia...hmmm. Looks like you will be traveling. Not many airsoft teams that way, I think. CharleyNovember has events in Georgia. Otherwise, there are U.S. teams in NY, German teams in NY, German teams trying to form in Pennsylvania. Peruse the boards and perhaps you'll find something you can attach to. Time to start fomenting interest among your friends and perhaps you can start a Virginia/Maryland chapter.
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Mar 25, 2009 8:30:30 GMT -5
Post by Jager.Drü on Mar 25, 2009 8:30:30 GMT -5
German medics were issued pistols. In the Ost Front the red armband wasn't heeded by either sides. So when vets from the ost came west they still carried their pistols.
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Mar 25, 2009 11:17:21 GMT -5
Post by Garrick Udet on Mar 25, 2009 11:17:21 GMT -5
As an Aid Man/Sanitater, you cannot carry pistols or "offensive weapons" (I've done this rant about a million times, I should just post it in my signature.) Most people shoot at sight of weapon, if you have a rifle, you're done. Once you fire, you Geneva Convention protection is compromised and the Red Cross on your head becomes a bullseye. In Airsoft, a red cross is just a really appealing target, whether or not you're carrying a weapon. If you're on the field of play and not wearing the same uniform as I am, you're getting shot at. vitoif there aren't established units in your area, go with an AGM MP40 and put together a Partisan outfit to start. It'll be much cheaper than a uniformed military impression and give you a chance to feel out what unit's you'd like to join.
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Mar 25, 2009 11:58:14 GMT -5
Post by vito on Mar 25, 2009 11:58:14 GMT -5
Ok sounds good. The only thing is I have no idea what a Partisan outfit is. I googled it and from what I gather, its basically like a Russian sniper type of clothing? Where would I find clothing for it?
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Mar 25, 2009 12:12:02 GMT -5
Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on Mar 25, 2009 12:12:02 GMT -5
A partisan is a civilian combatant or resistance fighter. The partisan is not a uniformed combatant, but participates in combat on a given side. For example, in France, after the German takeover, a Partisan fighter would be fighting alongside or with the French resistance.
Usually, Partisan fighters outside of Germany and Italy fought against the Germans with captured German guns. Again, not always the case. These partisan fighters often used German fire arms and not so much American or Allied weapons. However, again, this is not always the case either.
Hopes this helps you. Seems you might benefit or even want to get some books and/or read some material on the war. A lot of good stuff out there!!!
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Mar 25, 2009 14:25:52 GMT -5
Post by Garrick Udet on Mar 25, 2009 14:25:52 GMT -5
Yeah, the idea behind putting a partisan impression together is that you're able to fight on whatever side needs additional players at a given event.
In our events we usually have 4-10 partisans that we use to balance out the uniformed military forces.
We're even toying with the idea of using partisans as a '3rd' side in an event. In this scenario, the Axis and Allied troops would be battling each other while the partisans are tasked with missions and objectives that would pit them against either side, or both, depending on the specifics.
Anyway, my point is that a Partisan impression is a great way to get yourself into the hobby before you have to make a large monetary investment in a reproduction uniform.
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Mar 25, 2009 15:48:26 GMT -5
Post by ersatzjack2 on Mar 25, 2009 15:48:26 GMT -5
Partisans as a third side, hmmm.... We did it at one of the Neillsville events. The Germans attacked the town from one side and the Russians attacked from the other. In the town guarding all of the Polish art treasures were the plainsclothes partisans (Polish forces). They didn't hold for long and they pretty much got obliterated. Can anybody say Poland 1939? Funny thing was that they won the skirmish because the Germans and Russians started fighting each other and forgot to capture the artwork and so at the end, most of the artwork was still in Polish hands. It was sort of a funny battle. Another Gryphon/ba-64 masterpiece.
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Mar 25, 2009 19:26:05 GMT -5
Post by 2nd Bat on Mar 25, 2009 19:26:05 GMT -5
Interestingly what most people don't know is the Poles generated more German casualties during the initial phases of WW2 than the British and French did combined (prior to Dunkirk.) The Poles were not the push over history seems to want to make them out to be. Remember they were attacked on one end by the Germans and simultaneously by the Russians on the other. Their weapons were fairly archaic and they had virtually nothing resembling a modern Air Force.
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Mar 25, 2009 19:41:57 GMT -5
Post by Adler69 on Mar 25, 2009 19:41:57 GMT -5
The Polish Air Force did pretty good for itself as well , even after having been almost completely destroyed during the opening phases of the invasion , the small number of outdated fighters left intact went up time after time to face off against the Luftwaffe and brought down a few modern Luftwaffe bombers and fighters.
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