kalbs
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Post by kalbs on Feb 18, 2010 10:40:32 GMT -5
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Post by Guinness on Feb 26, 2010 18:49:51 GMT -5
1st off, I hayte you because you bought my gun!
2nd,..... Awesome review and article man! well done!! ;D
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Post by Fusilier on Mar 4, 2010 12:50:12 GMT -5
Kinda sucks that you can't use Top or AGM mags with it. Sounds like a nice gun.Great review.
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Post by Lev on Mar 4, 2010 16:26:15 GMT -5
Hi, Kalbs.
Can you provide a little more detail on the EBB feature? Specifically I'm wondering if it makes any noise or if it just moves the bold back and forth. Some additional "pop" would be a great feature.
-Udo
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kalbs
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Post by kalbs on Mar 4, 2010 17:43:10 GMT -5
Hi, Kalbs. Can you provide a little more detail on the EBB feature? Specifically I'm wondering if it makes any noise or if it just moves the bold back and forth. Some additional "pop" would be a great feature. -Udo There is a bit more report than the AGM or TOP with the bolt movement and not just a gearbox whine. It's not not a huge noise maker though. The EBB feature requires the back of the two sides of the gearbox piston chamber to be open to catch the slide mechanism to move back and forth. Because of this I suspect the gear box has limitations to spring size increases because this is the gearbox weak point. I would never use a spring greater than PDI190/ Systema M130. |
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Post by Ersatzjack on Mar 11, 2010 0:00:54 GMT -5
Just saw this review and I appreciate the fine report. Hmmm? So the price is the sticking point. Looks like about $300 to get it to your (I mean my) door. Still, I think this one is a keeper from what you say.  |
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Post by kalbs on Mar 11, 2010 11:00:44 GMT -5
I think so EJ. I gave away my China clunker. I just need a few more mags and I'm set. I thing China mags may work if you reverse the guts in tin sleave. I havent tried it yet but it seem like it will work.
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Post by Fusilier on Mar 11, 2010 12:11:27 GMT -5
I think so EJ. I gave away my China clunker. I just need a few more mags and I'm set. I thing China mags may work if you reverse the guts in tin sleave. I havent tried it yet but it seem like it will work. >> Do they sell spare mags yet,and is it available in the US yet? |
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Post by 2nd Bat on Mar 11, 2010 12:16:45 GMT -5
I have always wondered if this version was significantly different than the AGM and now I got the true skinny. Thanks Kalbs for your excellent report. It sounds like the lack of low caps is the only set back. No safety is disconcerting as well. As we all know "Mags out" isn't enough
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Post by ersatzjack2 on Mar 11, 2010 13:49:09 GMT -5
Awesome review!!! You've set the standard for future gun reviews.
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Post by kalbs on Mar 11, 2010 18:06:03 GMT -5
Do they sell spare mags yet,and is it available in the US yet? They do sell spares but all are sold out here. I got the last two spares when I purchased my SRC. UN Company said they were expecting an order in the near future. I have no idea about the US but I thought I saw an e-tailor selling them |
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Post by jimmiroquai on Jan 21, 2011 9:02:10 GMT -5
Some notes to future owners: 1) It comes weak OTB at 280-290 fps. I suggest upgrading the spring to a max of M125 or PDI 190%. The gearbox looks sturdy enough but it is PROPRIETARY and the back (where the spring guide rests) looks a little fragile. So personally i wouldn't go past an SP/M120. 2) I'm not sure if the steel is painted or if it's carbon blackened. I saw some spots of rust so i'd suggest going over it with WD40 and a rag before storage 3) I tried loading a King arms mag with the feed hole in front (instead of at the back of the mag for the AGM) and, while it doesn't lock in place, it fed well! I think with some minor modding, AGM MP40 mags will fit the SRC. Some more thoughts on the gearbox and internals: The gearbox is relatively well designed, with general reinforcements to the front of the gearbox. Of particular note is the cylinder window cut out: It's tapered in front instead of the usual rectangle. This will make the gearbox more resistant to cracking at the window (which is where cracks usually occur). There is a little gap on top of the gearbox though and the sliding clip seen on the AGM MP40 gearbox is absent. I don't know if this will affect the durability of the gearbox. But the durability of the version 3 gearbox (of which this is a derivative) is commonly attributed to this sliding clip... The gearbox seams thicker and more robust than usual, but i don't know if it's just because of the paint finish. Inside, the internals are well greased. Of note is the piston. It has protrusions that are essential to the EBB function of the gun. If ever the piston breaks and you need to replace it, i'm not sure is you can get a piston with these same protrusions. So you might lose the EBB function. I'm a little worried about the hop chamber. It is proprietary, but made of brass so it should last. The thing i'm worried about is when i tried to turn the hop wheel all the way "ON" and looked through the barrel, i couldn't see the nub protruding into the barrel. I have yet to test this in the field so i don't know if the hop is effective. Also, i tried putting an M120 spring and i was only getting FPS readings of 365-375. With this spring i was expecting the FPS to be around 400. I suspect a leak in the hop mechanism. The problem is that, i couldn't get to it. Disassembly of the barrel and hop chamber was very difficult and i ended up giving up, lest i damage the receiver. Will try this out in the field and report back. |
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Post by jimmiroquai on Jan 24, 2011 3:55:48 GMT -5
I had to disassemble it to get to the hop chamber. Disassembly is similar to but not the same as in the AGM MP40. First, separate the upper and lower receiver as per instructions. Next, remove these two hex screws:  Now you can slide the barrel assembly off the receiver...only, it won't slide. It's so tight that you'll have to carefully hammer it off, with inevitable scratches to the sling mount. Once you slide the barrel assembly off (and after you start breathing again), you disassemble the barrel assembly as you would an AGM: unscrew the barrel nut, slide off the front sight assembly. The receiver nut is very tight and you will need to use a wrench to unscrew it. Once it's off, you'll need to unscrew the set screw on the side.  After pulling the outer barrel off, you will notice a spring. This helps push the hop assembly in place. Now here was the part where i was stumped for a while. I thought the hop assembly was just plain stuck and i tried to gently hammer it out without success. Then i noticed that you had to twist the hop assembly to get it out.   You're left with this:   It is interesting that SRC had integrated a metal hop arm with an SCS-like hop nub, molded as one piece. The SCS is the best hop nub out there and it was nice of SRC to incorporate this in the design. My only concern is that, because it's made of metal, it might damage the hop rubber. I'll just replace the nub with one from a G36 hop chamber if and when it does.  |
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