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Post by aj czarkowski on Aug 23, 2013 20:03:30 GMT -5
Also keep me posted as well, I would definitely drive up to GZA again and try to bring a few friends
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Post by CPL. Mills 2nd Rangers on Aug 25, 2013 15:21:34 GMT -5
It really blows that the East coast event turnout is so low. It is too bad you cannot continue with the event even with low numbers. The players that show up would have a good time, and it would be a good opportunity to take some PR pictures. I've had a lack of funds to make the trek to the coast the last couple of years, however I recently got a job utilizing my college degree so within the next few months I'll have the cash to make the drive. I would be willing to attend an event even if only 10 others showed up.
There have been a handful of games here in the Midwest that only had about 10-15 people show up and I've enjoyed myself thoroughly. If you could find some land that didn't require a fee, that could potentially boost attendance. The last even I attended was a Fort McCoy in WI. It was free, perhaps if event organizers could talk to the Military about using one of their training fields. I am unsure if the Alexander brothers had to pay a fee to the army to use the field but if they did they didn't charge a fee to attend.
I really like the layout of the land on the East coast and I hope the hobby stays alive when I finally have the funds to drive over there!
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Post by SfcMigs on Aug 25, 2013 16:44:30 GMT -5
It really blows that the East coast event turnout is so low. It is too bad you cannot continue with the event even with low numbers. The players that show up would have a good time, and it would be a good opportunity to take some PR pictures. I've had a lack of funds to make the trek to the coast the last couple of years, however I recently got a job utilizing my college degree so within the next few months I'll have the cash to make the drive. I would be willing to attend an event even if only 10 others showed up. There have been a handful of games here in the Midwest that only had about 10-15 people show up and I've enjoyed myself thoroughly. If you could find some land that didn't require a fee, that could potentially boost attendance. The last even I attended was a Fort McCoy in WI. It was free, perhaps if event organizers could talk to the Military about using one of their training fields. I am unsure if the Alexander brothers had to pay a fee to the army to use the field but if they did they didn't charge a fee to attend. I really like the layout of the land on the East coast and I hope the hobby stays alive when I finally have the funds to drive over there! Yes it is a shame. The problem is a two fold "perfect Storm" type situation. Here in the North East, land is at a premium and cost is a factor. Most establish field owners want significant funds to secure a field and without a good attendance, it makes low attendance events not possible. There were two events in the Spring that were cheap but attendance was very low, mostly because of their location in proximity to the majority of our NE membership. There lies the perfect storm. Fields that are in the "attendance Zone" are too expensive to have with low turnouts and fields that are affordable are too far away for most of our current members. This is why we are trying to go back to GZA and recruit from there. Hopefully we will be successful in our recruiting. Wish us luck. Migs
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Post by ScottCollins on Aug 25, 2013 17:38:11 GMT -5
Why don't we compromise? We could all get together in November at a Michigan or Illinois game? It's right in the middle of two major regular game sites?
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Post by aj czarkowski on Aug 25, 2013 19:10:59 GMT -5
Why don't we compromise? We could all get together in November at a Michigan or Illinois game? It's right in the middle of two major regular game sites? If the members around here don't seem to want to leave Connecticut to go to upstate New York, how would we go to Michigan or Illinois lol
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Post by ersatzjack2 on Aug 26, 2013 0:39:22 GMT -5
I've read the posts with interest and don't have any particular solutions to offer up concerning East Coast WW2 Airsoft. Ok, maybe a couple. Cancelling any event is a buzzkill. I believe you guys have now cancelled a couple of them and that's a mistake. If someone gets excited to go and then finds that the thing is off that person is going to get less and less excited when future events are advertised. MOA has had attendance concerns also but we don't cancel. If the game is 10-12 people, so be it. They turn out to be pretty fun. Playing on fields that require payment is not desirable. Luckily, 4 of the six MOA events are donation based games on private property or Fort McCoy. The other two have a minimal field fee and are still on private lands. You guys need to get some land. Check with family and relatives. I know there are farms and hunting lands in New York and New England. Doesn't any member in your group have some connections? Maybe not, and that's too bad because if you're stuck with paying these for profit paintball fields your options get limited.
MOA members have travelled east to play in your games on four or five occasions. They were fun and the road trip was fun too. It's less than a day to drive and our guys went when things were more unsteady here in the Midwest or when one of your games sounded particularly fun and exciting. I know not all of you have the means to make trips like that and certainly a lot of the people who regularly play in our MOA games can't make those kinds of trips but there are some of you who can do it just like some of us have done. If you need a WW2 airsoft fix, travel west. Our games are pretty laid back and lots of fun and we usually have some kind of armor. It doesn't solve your problem but for some of you it could be a temporary fix.
Next year if we go back to Fort McCoy in the summer there may be two or three pieces of armor. It would be great with all that land to have a large game with people from not only our two or three State area but from other parts of the country. I'm actually puzzled that we haven't had any visitors from out East given the assets our group has. Well, anyways, I do hope things improve for you guys. Don't give up.
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Post by SfcMigs on Aug 26, 2013 23:13:35 GMT -5
I've read the posts with interest and don't have any particular solutions to offer up concerning East Coast WW2 Airsoft. Ok, maybe a couple. Cancelling any event is a buzzkill. I believe you guys have now cancelled a couple of them and that's a mistake. If someone gets excited to go and then finds that the thing is off that person is going to get less and less excited when future events are advertised. MOA has had attendance concerns also but we don't cancel. If the game is 10-12 people, so be it. They usually turn out to be pretty fun. Playing on fields that require payment is not desirable. Luckily, 4 of the six MOA events are donation based games on private property or Fort McCoy. The other two have a minimal field fee and are still on private lands. You guys need to get some land. Check with family and relatives. I know there are farms and hunting lands in New York and New England. Doesn't any member in your group have some connections? Maybe not, and that's too bad because if you're stuck with paying these for profit paintball fields your options get limited.
MOA members have travelled east to play in your games on four or five occasions. They were fun and the road trip was fun too. It's less than a day to drive and our guys went when things were more unsteady here in the Midwest or when one of your games sounded particularly fun and exciting. I know not all of you have the means to make trips like that and certainly a lot of the people who regularly play in our MOA games can't make those kinds of trips but there are some of you who can do it just like some of us have done. If you need a WW2 airsoft fix, travel west. Our games are pretty laid back and lots of fun and we usually have some kind of armor. It doesn't solve your problem but for some of you it could be a temporary fix.
Next year if we go back to Fort McCoy in the summer there may be two or three pieces of armor. It would be great with all that land to have a large game with people from not only our two or three State area but from other parts of the country. I'm actually puzzled that we haven't had any visitors from out East given the assets our group has. Well, anyways, I do hope things improve for you guys. Don't give up.
Thanks for the input. We're trying. Recruitment is on the table and a bunch of the members are committed to make it work. For the record, this last event scheduled for this past weekend was the only one that's been cancelled. The previous two went on as scheduled with very little attendance. I was present for both and they both were really a lot of fun, but as you touched on, it's tough to get fields for little cost around here. But we're working on it. Thanks again, Migs
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Post by knights52 on Sept 1, 2013 15:48:21 GMT -5
Sorry I didn't tell anyone, but it was kinda spur of the moment. I played at GZA today, with my SS impression. I had AT LEAST 30 people ask me about my uniform and weapons, and all of those expressed interest in a crossover game. There were also four or five people there using thompsons, so they're already part of the way there. The owner is still excited about us trying to start up again. I want to get there for a few more normal games before we set up a crossover event. If anyone is interested in going to a normal game, as some of you have expressed, send me a pm and I'll try to get it all organized. All we really need to do is pick a date, and maybe organize some rides.
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Post by Rapture on Sept 1, 2013 20:19:58 GMT -5
When I come home for winter block leave Id be game to help you guys out. I know its a far way from here but its the best I can do to help. I want to make sure all the hard work we put into this not fall apart!
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Post by SfcMigs on Sept 2, 2013 13:06:35 GMT -5
When I come home for winter block leave Id be game to help you guys out. I know its a far way from here but its the best I can do to help. I want to make sure all the hard work we put into this not fall apart! Great to hear from you Brandon. Hope all is well in the real Army. It'll be great to get together when you have your leave. Stay in touch, Migs
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Post by SfcMigs on Sept 2, 2013 13:19:54 GMT -5
Sorry I didn't tell anyone, but it was kinda spur of the moment. I played at GZA today, with my SS impression. I had AT LEAST 30 people ask me about my uniform and weapons, and all of those expressed interest in a crossover game. There were also four or five people there using thompsons, so they're already part of the way there. The owner is still excited about us trying to start up again. I want to get there for a few more normal games before we set up a crossover event. If anyone is interested in going to a normal game, as some of you have expressed, send me a pm and I'll try to get it all organized. All we really need to do is pick a date, and maybe organize some rides. Hey Knight, no apologies necessary. Good job getting over to GZA. I'm up for a game in late Sept. I'll bring at least 3, maybe 4 to the game. What I also plan on doing is setting up an area (table) for display purposes. I'll have an array of WW2 Weapons, grenades, radios, rations, web gear and more. I also plan on making an information flyer and possible display some videos of past events. If we have several of us there early, we can have time to chat up the players about what we're about and how they can join. Seeing all the weapons we have, (I'll be bringing Thompsons, MP-40's, Sten Gun, M1 Carbine, M1 Carbine paratrooper, Grease Gun, K98, Colt 1911, Mauser Broom Handle, German Stick grenades and more) plus our impressions, should entice the average player. Let's keep up the chatter and I hope to see you all soon. Migs
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Post by 2nd Bat on Sept 2, 2013 14:51:59 GMT -5
Having a contingent of folks show up at normal gatherings in WW2 garb is a great way to glean interest. Just do a thorough job of acquiring valid contact info and do something with it before it gets stale. Plan and design your games with the anticipation that they will be small initially? Sides do NOT have to be even to have fun. Combat engagements are seldom fair fights. attacking elements typically have to outnumber defenders by 3-5 to 1 for success to be reasonable. With regens creative things can be done here.
The format done by the REGIMENT out west and Battlesim are good templates to follow. the MOA currently is running the most organized and comrehensive events in a market with relatively few people to draw from. Certainly when compared to the North East. Good luck!
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