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Post by IwoJima3823 on Sept 5, 2013 10:39:44 GMT -5
Hello, I wanted to make a WWII loadout but cant decide what color to use for the pouches, their's OD#3, OD#7, Marine 1st, 2nd and 3rd pattern, I was going to roll with OD#3, then applesauce got complicated, I was aiming for Guadalcanal and my weapons is the Thompson.
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Post by bloodandguts5150 on Sept 5, 2013 11:58:23 GMT -5
Be more specific. What timeframe are you wanting to do? What particular battle?
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Post by brownien on Sept 5, 2013 13:24:55 GMT -5
Depends on the impression you want to do. For anything early war, go with 90% OD #3. If you want to do an impression for mid to late 1944, start adding in some OD #7, about 50%. For anything early to mid 1945, go with 75-90% OD#7
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Post by bloodandguts5150 on Sept 5, 2013 13:36:13 GMT -5
Transitional gear is always an option as well
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Post by stuka on Sept 5, 2013 13:50:05 GMT -5
I would suggest doing early loadout since you can always add later stuff and claim to be a vet or w/e.
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Post by IwoJima3823 on Sept 25, 2013 17:43:11 GMT -5
Be more specific. What timeframe are you wanting to do? What particular battle? Guadalcanal
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Post by shiftysgarand on Sept 25, 2013 18:21:45 GMT -5
Should this go in the period impressions and unit recruiting?
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Post by bloodandguts5150 on Oct 5, 2013 16:37:10 GMT -5
Guadalcanal is a tough impression to nail. The real deal breaker here is the Hawley liner, finding a real one is difficult and even for a trashed one you'll be paying a lot of $$. Besides that using a real Hawley is a bad idea as they usually disintegrated in combat, so why pay a lot for a liner that is more of a display piece?? Even repros are pricey and hard to come by since they are hand made. To be accurate you would need an M1903A3 or A4 rifle as a rifleman, the Garand was used on the Canal but not issued to the Marines fighting there until after the battle. For the Thompson it HAS to be the M1928A1, the M1 or M1A1 hadn't made it to the 1st Marine Division until after Guadalcanal. Helmet covers hadn't been issued yet (really anything camouflage hadn't been issued) and very little had been made in OD#7 at this point, besides even it had old stocks were issued first and it wouldn't have made it to front line Marines in August 1942. Fixed loop helmets were the only helmets in use, and at that point only made by McCord. Plastic capped canteens were few and far between, if any really, and the covers were either 1st or second pattern.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Oct 5, 2013 17:24:28 GMT -5
Tattered and worn, mud coated OD HBTs, Khaki web gear, an M1903', BAR or M1928 thompson, khaki leggings or trousers rolled up over roughout boondockers. a steel pot with no cover, a three day growth, and a thousand yard stare.
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Post by stuka on Oct 6, 2013 15:18:45 GMT -5
As I understand it, garands made there way to the battle but late inn the six month fight
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Post by shiftysgarand on Oct 6, 2013 18:39:24 GMT -5
If The Pacific is accurate, Marines "acquired" Garands from the Army when they arrived.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Oct 13, 2013 17:18:11 GMT -5
That scene is based on anecdotal reports that no doubt happened. I have an old WW2 vet neighbor reports that he an his tent mate under the casual suggestion of the battalion commander stole a Jeep from the army and simply chaged the hood and bumper with a destroyed USMC Jeep. This act of thievery got both of them promoted to Corporal. This didn't happen at Guadalcanal but at Okinawa. The Army arrived in a high state of supply which is common for newly arriving units and the Marines had, had to scrounge nearly everything they needed. The Garand incidently was somewhat un popular with the Marines when they first received them. A perfect example of human natures tendancy to resist change.
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Post by bloodandguts5150 on Oct 13, 2013 20:43:46 GMT -5
I heard that the Marines that stole the Garands on Guadalcanal didn't have but maybe a handful of en blocs to go with them, so they had to keep them after they ejected and reload them with the rounds off the stripper clips for their Springfields
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Post by shiftysgarand on Oct 16, 2013 17:54:32 GMT -5
Kind of like a Marushin....
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Post by 2nd Bat on Oct 16, 2013 20:34:21 GMT -5
Except the Garand didn't have to have gas squeazed into it after 35 to 40 shots and actually cycled and fired the rounds that were loaded and didn't have to have all the internal grub screws retightened after 200 rounds. ( I couldn't help it I couldn't resist getting my digs in on the Marushin M1 wall hanger)
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Post by IwoJima3823 on Nov 18, 2013 10:10:08 GMT -5
Now I want to do a Peleliu Loadout, I have an M1 helmet with cover, P-41 uniform, OD#7-ish pistol belt, OD#3/Khaki (2) canteen pouch, Leggings and roughout service shoes. I do not have enough money to replace any gear, so I want to make due with what I have. Guadalcanal was too hard to hit, so I'm gonna go with something easier to nail. I am going to run a Carbine, and if anyone knows where to get 1944 (Peleliu) gear for cheap, that would be great.Also,it must be durable. The pouches I need are: First aid pouch, M1 Carbine pouchs, one for the gun and one for the belt, and maybe if the pouches I have now are wrong: Pistol belt, and canteen pouchs. Thank you
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Post by IwoJima3823 on Nov 18, 2013 11:05:19 GMT -5
Depends on the impression you want to do. For anything early war, go with 90% OD #3. If you want to do an impression for mid to late 1944, start adding in some OD #7, about 50%. For anything early to mid 1945, go with 75-90% OD#7 What should I do for a Peleliu loadout? I have a light OD#7 pistol belt and two Khaki canteen pouches, and I want to run a Carbine.
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Post by brownien on Nov 18, 2013 12:44:06 GMT -5
In that case, get 2 OD3 carbine pouches, or more for your belt, and another for the stock of your carbine. You could add an OD7 first aid pouch and an OD m1910 shovel cover too
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 18, 2013 12:53:00 GMT -5
A nice touch would be the two part, Marine specific pack system. Eventually a camo shelter half and helmet cover. The pack with shelter half roll and camo helmet cover is such a Marine Iconic look IMO. The Marine field hat (cover) is also an iconic Marine specific item.
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Post by stuka on Nov 18, 2013 19:12:27 GMT -5
If you are getting the marushin co2 carbine, let it be known that the mags don't fit in the pouches, you'd pry be better off with a bandolier
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Post by shiftysgarand on Nov 18, 2013 19:59:50 GMT -5
I read in one of his earlier posts that he has a CYMA springer, I assume that's what he's using. BUT... the Marushin CO2 carbine is very very good for the money.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 18, 2013 21:58:31 GMT -5
I have one and it is "okay" for the money. With four spare magazines it's a pretty hefty chunk of money and works okay if you're prepared to fuss with it.
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Post by shiftysgarand on Nov 19, 2013 15:27:23 GMT -5
Define "fuss" please. Does it need the same amount of maintenance as the Garand?
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 19, 2013 22:13:11 GMT -5
No, not even close. It's actually quite decent but more money (by the timr you get extra mags) and more hassle then most people want to put up with.
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Post by newcomer on Nov 21, 2013 22:12:02 GMT -5
I second 2nd Bat. I purchased the marushin M1 CO2 carbine because it was always a favorite of mine, but I wouldn't recommend it unless you are willing to sink a lot of money/love the weapon. Its fairly reliable and shoots very well, but the 55 dollar a pop mags REALLY hurt. Most cases I serve as a spotter/scout for my buddies in most airsoft games.
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