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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 23, 2013 13:38:54 GMT -5
To get an idea on weapons, here is what I am willing to send:
I have a couple of slapped together Garand AEGs built with left over reject parts so I am in them very little. They work great and look fine but are no means pristine examples of 2nd Bat Garands. Each would come with a bandaleer of six spare 12 round clips and one slightly oversized 70 round clip.
Six, M1 carbine springers each with 3 25 round magazines. (I have a couple more to further supplement the event if needed)
A thompson AEG with five magazines.
An MP40 AEG with five spare magazines A STG 44 with two high caps.
For uniforms I have no German costumes other then 3 helmets.
For US I have a mix of M41s, M43s, Tanker jackets, Mackinaws and overcoats along with brown trousers, leggings, pseudo wool shirts, leggings and a ton of Jeeper hats. I have helmets as well but as it is shipping in any quantity is going to be rediculous. Sizes range from Small to 2X. For a winter event you are going to want to size big and wear warm clothes underneath. Bring some sort of belt or parachord to sintch the waists.
If I legitimately need to dip further into the armory due to actual, committed, signed up players I will do so.
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Post by shiftysgarand on Nov 29, 2013 17:40:16 GMT -5
Any updates? This is on, right?
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Post by brownien on Nov 29, 2013 17:56:33 GMT -5
Yes! Very much still on! I havnt had much time to update, but I am at work trying to draw up some accurate maps and mission scenarios.
I will be setting up loudspeakers for this event to project battle ambiance into the battlefield, and I will also be setting up a singular camp that will be off the field so we can all get back together for lunch and warming up. I will be making up a fully enclosed tent, that I will put heat in, so if anyone gets cold, and or wet, they will have a place to warm up, dry off and gear up.
Also, depending on the number of Germans attending, I will be needing some voulenteers to take on special roles. These roles will vary, but will all involve adding to the flavor and efficiency of each scenario. Anyone interested in voulenteering for these roles, please PM me, and I will inform you of your duties. Please note that by taking on these roles, you will not be seeing any more or less action than you would have otherwise, just a different type of action.
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Post by shiftysgarand on Nov 29, 2013 18:22:46 GMT -5
Cool! Will tell friends. Also, do you still have access to that M29?
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 29, 2013 21:23:43 GMT -5
A warm up tent and a fire if possible have all been welcome elements at local wintertime events. In spite of them, We have had some minor hypothermia victims at past events even when temperatures weren't super cold. We had on hand a few sleeping bags to wrap them in, Some hot tea brewing and got them into a warmed up vehicle and hauled one fellow to the hospital. Folks have to realize the symptoms and come to these events prepared and mindful of their own comfort and safety. they also need to watch their fellow team members closely and let the sponsors know about any concerns.
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Post by brownien on Nov 29, 2013 22:19:09 GMT -5
Absolutely! I plan on using a salimander heater running in the tent with racks for any wet socks or clothes. Don't want any trench foot! Hopefully having that many btu's shooting out of that thing, we wont have any hypothermia problems. But I will add warnings into my briefings, and if a problem should arise, the local hospital isn't far away at all.
And yup! I should have that m29 there!
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Post by shiftysgarand on Nov 30, 2013 9:23:09 GMT -5
Cool! Just gotta get some R410a for my Garand!
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 30, 2013 17:07:20 GMT -5
Everyone should consider comfort when preparing for this event. Be sure you have multiple layers of thermal clothing to wear under your impression. Items of actual clothing naturally are ideal but few players will probably have a full complement of correct clothing from underwear to wool pants and shirt, OD sweater, field jacket and overcoat. For those borrowing impression set ups from me these will only include appropriate looking outer "shells". I will purposely size it all big so your contemporary warm layers cab be worn underneath. While being significantly ill prepared for the cold would produce an authentic experience for anyone representing soldiers in this campaign, having fun I would think is the number one goal!
My impressions will include Jeep wool caps, wool scarves, leggings, a field jacket, trousers and a shirt they won't include long johns, sweaters, foot wear or gloves. For footwear in cold weater the most significant consideration is adequate and warm socks. Keep that in mind.
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Post by LϟϟAH1944 on Nov 30, 2013 18:40:13 GMT -5
To all people attending as Germans: I'd strongly recommend getting parka set! While greatcoats are good, if you intend on lying down, it doesn't get you anywhere, since the wool will still soak. Parka sets are 2 pieces, reversible(camo to white), and have blanket lining. Another good item to pick up would be a grey surplus wool sweater(hessen has them). if anybody needs loaner winter gear, I have a few spare touques, a spare sweater, and probabl 1 or 2 spare pairs of gloves. You can also find perfect german-looking gloves at old navy, that are identical to ww2 german issue gloves.
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Post by shiftysgarand on Nov 30, 2013 18:50:38 GMT -5
And Americans wear bedsheets...
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Post by LϟϟAH1944 on Nov 30, 2013 20:12:52 GMT -5
mmhmm lol. while we get full winter, reversible, blanket lined sets, yall just get...bed sheets. BUT, parka sets aint cheap, so Ill bet the US option's a hell of a lot cheaper.
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Post by Jerry-ADK on Dec 1, 2013 17:02:23 GMT -5
Hi, I am a new member and would like to attend this event. I have a late war FJ kit, so I could help even out the Axis forces. Im really looking forward to this event as it would be my first. I also have a US GI trench coat and some other assorted US clothing I could bring to add to the gear.
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Post by SfcMigs on Dec 1, 2013 17:57:43 GMT -5
Hi, I am a new member and would like to attend this event. I have a late war FJ kit, so I could help even out the Axis forces. Im really looking forward to this event as it would be my first. I also have a US GI trench coat and some other assorted US clothing I could bring to add to the gear. That's great to hear. Welcome and looking forward to seeing you there. Migs
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Post by SfcMigs on Dec 1, 2013 21:09:40 GMT -5
Just curious if anyone knows the answer to this one.
With the probable weather being below freezing for this event, does anyone care to speculate if my co2 cartridge powered Marushin M1-Carbine will work?
I know green gas doesn't do well, but I'm not sure about the CO2 Cartridges.
Thanks in advance,
Migs
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Post by shiftysgarand on Dec 2, 2013 15:35:46 GMT -5
CO2 generally fairs far better than green gas. You WILL have reduced fps and increased cooldown, but it'll fire. jerry, thanks for offering the US gear, I'm bringing friends who will need it.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 2, 2013 17:24:29 GMT -5
I have not had occassion to try mine below about 45 degrees. The Maritime climate here in the Pacific Northwest seldom gets colder than that. There is no doubt it is impacted negatively by colder temperatures with regard to FPS and cycling but a greater concern I would have is the potentially destructive effects the cold would have on the pock metal.
Before deciding to game with it at the event, I would suggest you test it outside on an extremely cold day and in a controlled, no intensity environment and see how it does. Let us know. I had mine as Losheim Gap but since I was game controller and didn't play at all I just had it slung over my shoulder all day.
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Post by shiftysgarand on Dec 3, 2013 15:31:34 GMT -5
Isn't the CDX mainly aluminum with steel parts? I bet you'll be okay. My Marushin M1 Garand fires on green gas from 40 degrees up. I'll have to find a higher pressure gas for it.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 3, 2013 17:55:21 GMT -5
I don't know what the metalery is on the carbine. I assumed it was some form of pock metal which is usually the case. Aluminum would be ideal but I really have my doubts that is what it is.
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Post by shiftysgarand on Dec 3, 2013 18:50:22 GMT -5
According to HornetWSO the major parts are aluminum with the bolt and trigger group made of steel. I can't confirm, as I don't have one though.
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Post by shiftysgarand on Dec 6, 2013 17:23:21 GMT -5
Hey brownien, would you mind revealing how many have signed up? Just going to use as propaganda to recruit more friends (peer pressure).
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 6, 2013 22:42:54 GMT -5
We are enduring what for the Northwest is an unusual cold snap with temperatures in the low 20s. I loaded up my CO2 Marushin carbine and tried it out just yucks and giggles. The action is definitely lower and the power is not as it normally is but if you space your applesauce s a bit, it is perfectly skirmishable with no problems. I didn't chrono it but it is well over 300 with .25s I am sure. It should be fine.
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Post by shiftysgarand on Dec 7, 2013 11:45:50 GMT -5
Good to know. "Space your applesauces"? Someone is having fun with the word filter.
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Post by brownien on Dec 7, 2013 12:02:25 GMT -5
So far, there are around 18-20 Americans attending, and 4-5 Germans! We need Germans! I will be accounting for the lower German headcount, but we still need a decent number first!
I have been talking to 2ndBat about his loaner gear, and I will be needing a headcount of those who need uniforms webgear and guns, including pants and shirt sizes! There will be a cutoff date to reserve specific size for uniforms. Anyone requiring loaner gear must have exact numbers and sizing to me by:
Dec 25th!
Anyone who has not messaged me requiring loaner kit by then will be SOL. I will try to get some extra stuff for loaner gear, in case something happens to not fit, or backups are needed, but please be prompt in getting your info to me.
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Post by shiftysgarand on Dec 7, 2013 12:08:46 GMT -5
One of my men have backed out. My brother said he may be willing to play as a German. I'll continue recruiting, knowing these numbers.
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Post by LϟϟAH1944 on Dec 7, 2013 14:15:37 GMT -5
My dad and I will be there as Germans. Who is heading the german side?
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Post by brownien on Dec 7, 2013 16:21:22 GMT -5
Not really sure yet. I want someone who is knowledgable in German combat tactics, and can command multiple combatants cohesively. I would like to plan simple preliminary combat training before we start the scenario, so that each team can be more efficient and so snap decisions can be made when the times come.
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Post by shiftysgarand on Dec 7, 2013 18:36:20 GMT -5
My brother is willing to come as a German.
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Post by Jerry-ADK on Dec 7, 2013 20:41:25 GMT -5
Just curious if anyone knows the answer to this one. With the probable weather being below freezing for this event, does anyone care to speculate if my co2 cartridge powered Marushin M1-Carbine will work? I know green gas doesn't do well, but I'm not sure about the CO2 Cartridges. Thanks in advance, Migs I have a We scar GBB that I use Co2 mags with. It really doesn't do to well when the temp is under 40 degrees, it freezes up. I'm not sure about the Marushin, I would go out in the back yard before the event and test it out by shooting off a few mags and making sure you don't have freeze up issues. I love GBB but it can be a pain in the you know what in winter. I hope that is helpful, Jer
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Post by SfcMigs on Dec 8, 2013 0:53:32 GMT -5
Thanks Jer.
I also have the old Marushin 8mm single shot gas powered M1-Carbine that doesn't do so well in the cold. But I've never used the CO2 Marushin.
Thanks for the info Jer. I'll test it out soon. It's starting to get cold around here.
Migs
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Post by shiftysgarand on Dec 8, 2013 10:23:01 GMT -5
Does anyone know about Guarder powerup gas? Ehobby says it is 16kg/cm², which is 221 psi at 71F. I've done some research on cold weather gases, and if it is similar to other gases, it would be about 110 psi at 30F, about the same as green/propane at 70F.
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