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Post by 2nd Bat on Apr 3, 2014 23:07:18 GMT -5
I can't say enough about how pleased I am with these little guns. I decided to experiment a little with onr of my guns. I inserted a more powerful spring I had laying around (from an AGM MPoo1) and tightbore barrel. I reassembled everything (with some difficulty unfortunately) and fiddled with it a bit today. It chrono'd at 420 FPS with .20 gram (about 90 FPS better then when it was stock). The cocking effort is greater as you might expect but so far the trigger sere is holding up against the stress. I put four magazines through it. (about 100 rounds)
Definitely impressive but I will be surprised if it holds up.
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Post by shiftysgarand on Apr 4, 2014 6:24:43 GMT -5
Haha, your helmet clunking on the ice gave away our position!
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Post by st58 on May 13, 2014 20:52:34 GMT -5
I can't say enough about how pleased I am with these little guns. I decided to experiment a little with onr of my guns. I inserted a more powerful spring I had laying around (from an AGM MPoo1) and tightbore barrel. I reassembled everything (with some difficulty unfortunately) and fiddled with it a bit today. It chrono'd at 420 FPS with .20 gram (about 90 FPS better then when it was stock). The cocking effort is greater as you might expect but so far the trigger sere is holding up against the stress. I put four magazines through it. (about 100 rounds) Definitely impressive but I will be surprised if it holds up. What type of inner barrel did u use?
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Post by 2nd Bat on May 13, 2014 23:16:40 GMT -5
I am not even sure what it was out of, just something I had laying around that looked about right and works well. Incidently this upgraded carbine continues to hold up although i have only taken it out once since my last report and shot another 125 rounds through it. Still not any kind of long term trial with it. The stock unalterred ones I have put hundreds and hundreds of rounds through with no issues whatsoever and even loaned out they continue to soldier on.
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Post by st58 on May 14, 2014 2:05:22 GMT -5
Thankyou for this informative post this was the only information where i could find a decent review on it. I recently bought one this past weekend from evike. Out of the box it shot about 15 feet. I did have to clean out the barrel real good after that it shot like a champ. I love the rifle, I plan on using it at the local airsoft field next month.
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Post by 2nd Bat on May 17, 2014 20:37:27 GMT -5
Great to hear our Forum was helpful. There is no greater airsoft bummer than a new airsoft gun that doesn't work or any greater joy then to discover an easy and effective fix!
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Post by shiftysgarand on May 18, 2014 17:29:11 GMT -5
Hey 2nd Bat, how's your 400 fps carbine holding up?
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Post by 2nd Bat on Sept 1, 2014 20:20:15 GMT -5
I have been on the road with a BMW trip for the past 3 1/2 months and just got back yesterday so it has sat unused since my last report. Now that I am home I will try nd put some more rounds through it. I have the big box of stuff back from brownien and have some minor repairs to work on with the items as they came back. All easy and fully expected.
I have two large local airsoft clubs interested in hosting a WW2 " themed" event and my costumes and weapons will be supporting these games. I am looking forward to them.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Sept 5, 2014 11:12:22 GMT -5
Got my loaner box opened up and everything put away. A couple of the cheap spingers had minor damage. Not surprising given the rigors of gaming, transport and shipping. Two of them had one front site post knocked off and one had the fabricated rear site knocked off. These were easy repairs and came out real nice. All of the guns and magazines worked great. In the midst of all that I pulled out my cheap springer with the upgrades and attempted a lengthy "torture " test planning to shot it until my arms got tired or it broke. Prior to this I had mounted a stronger spring and a tightbore barrel and had already put about 250 rounds through it.
The first magazine of 23 rounds went fine but three rounds into the second magazine the metal seer failed and it is kerplunct. Truthfully it lasted longer then I thought. I now have a parts gun for all the others I own and parts for future experiments. On the one hand the extra FPS was nice but the additional cocking effort and obvious stress to the parts would in my opinion not be worth the trouble. These carbines are what they are. Simple, inexpensive, reliable and just powerful enough to replicate a carbine. Remembering that the carbine was intended for drivers, weapons crews, unit leaders and recon troops in those roles these springers (un modified) are great.
They will remain the most common weapon in my loaner/ rental armory and their existance and low price enables me to continue supporting decent numbers of walk ons at events and hence are a god send. Their presence further reduces the "spray and pray" mentality of most airsoft events promoting team work, tactics and more realistic battle exchanges.
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Post by hardslack on Sept 28, 2014 13:32:47 GMT -5
On sale again for 26$ at airsoftmegastore.com. The sale ends tonight (september 28th) at 9:00.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Sept 28, 2014 13:41:41 GMT -5
That is once again a super deal especially if you order enough to exceed $100.00 and get free shipping. These make great supplemental back ups and loaner guns. I can't say enough good things about them.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jan 15, 2015 13:49:37 GMT -5
An update. My total purchase numbers is 24 of these rifles. I sold four and upgraded one with a heavier spring which worked for longer than I expected but eventually failed. My Armory currently has 19 of these as loaners/ rental guns. They continue to prove durable and predictable and are excellent given what they are. Airsoft Megastore had a brief sale pricing them at 19.75 and I couldn't resist. Magazines very tremendously from site to site but can typically be bought for well under $6.00. BecquseI have so many of them and sling and oiler costs were starting to add up I bought lengths of Khaki/ OD webbing and snaps and fabricated reasonable facimilesalong with cut down sections of ABS tubing as the oiler.
Their existence has enabled me to provide sufficient numbers of WW2 weapons to support local clubs who wanted to put on a WW2 themed event and the prliferation of semi automatic and cocking rifles has really forced a consistently different type of gameplay which they really enjoyed. A refreshing change from the typical "Spray and pray" stalemates. The rental fees have more than paid for the guns and they remain fully functional. The only noticeable damage has been an occassional busted front site which I find I can refabricate with resin dyna glass and my dremel!
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Post by 2nd Bat on Mar 13, 2015 13:40:52 GMT -5
Still another update. I have now converted a bunch of these to M1s. I left one as a Korean War/ Vietnam War era M2. I took my conversions a bit further and cut the butt stocks off several of them and made M1A1 paratrooper versions with folding wire stocks. (Seperate thread). I remain absolutely thrilled with these. I have shortened over 100 of the magazines which for a brief time were priced on the rediculously low price of $1.75 each! (unalterred). Between the sale of some fully converted guns, rental fees, sale of converted magazines and even the sale on ebay of the take off rear stamped sight (which I replace anyway). My 18 still functioning great CYMA carbines have MADE ME MONEY! The labor doing the conversions not withstanding! These guns have made WW2 events feasible in many ways as they allow casual participants to join in at minimal cost.
A similar KAR 98 offering (even if three times as expensive ) would be fabulous although it needs to be 400 FPS plus.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Mar 13, 2015 13:48:35 GMT -5
Incidently one more trivial infidelity on these guns is the front sling hardware and stock band. It's two parts that marry with a screw inserted into a fold at the base. WW2 front sling hardware was a true band with no screw. This "flaw" can be visually improved by cutting off the bends (and screw) and JB welding a thin reinforcing band to connect the two sides. This repair has been done on two of my replicas and thus far they have held up but truth be told the visual impact is probably not worth the effort and time and I am not going to do it to all my other CYMA Carbines. Interestingly I have spent more money on spare mag pouches, slings and accessories than I have on these inexpensive guns! CRAZY!
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Post by gearkrieg on Jun 25, 2015 7:23:40 GMT -5
told ya, guys! I finally got myself a carbine like yours... i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww235/gearkrieg/la%20foto%201%201_zpspv7xufpw.jpgIt was expensive as heck, getting it to my homeland, buy it was worth it! The questions that lingers my mind is: will I be able to mess around with 2nd Bat´s magazine conversions? BTW 2nd Bat: how do you manage to attach the sling? mine didn´t came with neither the sling (although I managed to get me something "similar") nor the "oiler" thingy... I´ve been browsing through Youtube videos on how to strap the sling to it, and each and everyone requires the Oiler!
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jun 25, 2015 8:13:43 GMT -5
I made fake oilers with wood dowels which work great. As for the shortened mags, If you follow the step by step thread in the forum and make careful cuts you should be fine. I am glad you were finally able to get a carbine down there to Chile and sorry to hear it was so costly. I would be willing to sell and ship you three or four shortened mags which could insure that you get some that work. They are small and light so shipping shouldn't be too terrible. They would be sold as used collectible toys so tariffs and duties shouldn't be bad.
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Post by gearkrieg on Jun 25, 2015 9:02:50 GMT -5
that would be incredibly A-WE-SOME! PM with your price, and let´s hope I can order them before having to spend on something as useless as "rent" or "bills" BTW, those Oilers don´t they look suspiciously similar to 7,62 spent cartridges? or is it just me?
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jun 25, 2015 12:30:03 GMT -5
Ha ha...I did some of mine with small sections of wood dowel but then discoverd that some rubber/plastic 7.62 fake shell fit perfect with the tips dremeled off. You have a good eye! I have subsequently painted them dark grey which should make that less apparent. The shells actually work better than the dowels as they flex a bit around the sling webbing. I'll PM you with a total so you can decide if you want some of my shortened clips.
They will fit (up to five of them) in a US Post small priority box which is a flat rate both domestically and foreign so by going on their site I can get an accurate cost of shipping to Chile. I'll even throw in a fake "oiler" if you need it.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Feb 25, 2016 15:33:43 GMT -5
The price on these M2 carbines from CYMA (also branded as JG and UKARMS) seems to have settled at $40.00 plus from assorted sites currently which in my opinion still represents a good deal. The super cheap magazine offer was apparently a one time deal unfortunately. Glad I got a bunch of them while they were cheap but now wish I had bought more. About one in five of these rifles arrive requiring a little TLC but simple fixes typically. Virtually all of them require a thorough barrel swab and this really really helps their functionality and is well worth the minimal time.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Sept 20, 2016 18:41:01 GMT -5
The cheezy plastic gearbox AEG carbine called the "D69" seem to be increasingly cropping up and be forewarned that these are entirely different than the CYMA springer carbines discussed in this thread. The price is slightly higher on the D69 but even if the price were identical I would recommend the CYMA springer. As a replica the CYMA is vastly superior. The D69 is off in scale shape and quality of materials throughout. The D69 lists an FPS of 280 but that is optimistic even with .12 gram BBs. The D69 only comes with a grossly oversized, high cap magazine. It does shoot either semi or full auto but with the low FPS provides very limited range and poor accuracy. In head to head skirmishing in woods I would take the Springer. I did remove the entirely bizarre finger grip cocking brace (which is especially puzzling as the gun is an AEG?) And filled in the stock screw holes, removed the bayonet lug and redid the incorrect rear site. A lot of TLC improved the look of the faux wood stock and following all that effort took it from horrible looking to barely tolerable. I bought two and used one to experiment with an SMS build (mixed results). The removed cocking grips were affixed to a couple of the CYMA springers bolt slides to create functional cocking aids that allow a right handed shooter to keep their muzzle on target and finger on the trigger creating an increased rate of fire. The look however is a bit distracting though barely noticeable when in use. This finger bracket is placed in front of the bolt on the charging handle slide using screws, a metal spacer and JB weld. Not sure how well they will hold up but for now they are kind of neat. Their effectiveness is NOT as worthwhile as I had hoped as the action is somewhat awkward than I anticipated. URL=http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/2ndBat/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160404_182234_zpsikogxu5p.jpg.html] [/URL]
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