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Post by SgtShaw on Nov 13, 2013 2:11:45 GMT -5
Hey guys, I've had this uniform for almost a year now (I collect odd bits of militaria, knew down the road I'd return to airsoft)and I have a a few questions on my tunic. For starters, I feel like the shoulder boards hang off quite a bit (this is a hikishop tunic for what its worth) Dont know if its set up right or not. I was thinking of picking up another tunic with pockets, and if these aren't correct, I may go ahead and get one of the Trident tunics over another hiki. Second question was how tight should it be in areas like the neck in arm. I know it doesn't matter as much as something like a German or American uniform, but would just like an idea on general fit. (The size is an XL, thinking of going down to a L if I get another) Third question was regarding PPSH stick mag pouches. I can't find these things anywhere. All the pouches I've seen and bought that are sold as PPSH41 pouches only fit PPS-43 mags, and I'm wondering what the PPSH ones look like, and are there any decent reproductions out there? Thanks guys Attachments:
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Post by stuka on Nov 13, 2013 9:58:08 GMT -5
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Post by aldrich on Nov 13, 2013 10:23:58 GMT -5
As far as Russian uniforms go, there is no such thing as a "correct fit" for most of the war. Most pictures you see of Russian troops are actually staged, many after the war had ended. Therefore they have new gear and clean, well fitted uniforms. In reality, most troops were quickly pressed into service with whatever uniform parts were on hand at the time. As long as the uniform more or less fits it is more or less fine. Perhaps move the shoulder boards up for a better cosmetic look. Outside that I would say it is a good tunic. Try to find pictures taken by Germans of captured Russians for uniform reference.
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Post by aldrich on Nov 13, 2013 10:29:23 GMT -5
One quick other thing. There is also no "correct pattern" tunic. Russian tunics came in two forms: early war with collars, and late war with no collar and shoulderboards. Both only had buttons going halfway down the front. Outside this, there was huge variation depending on who was making them. Some had pockets, some didn't. Some pockets were hidden, some exposed. Hidden buttons, exposed buttons, tan, brown, green, grey, you name it.
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Post by SgtShaw on Nov 13, 2013 14:21:09 GMT -5
As far as Russian uniforms go, there is no such thing as a "correct fit" for most of the war. Most pictures you see of Russian troops are actually staged, many after the war had ended. Therefore they have new gear and clean, well fitted uniforms. In reality, most troops were quickly pressed into service with whatever uniform parts were on hand at the time. As long as the uniform more or less fits it is more or less fine. Perhaps move the shoulder boards up for a better cosmetic look. Outside that I would say it is a good tunic. Try to find pictures taken by Germans of captured Russians for uniform reference. This is what I've always been led to believe, which is why I wasn't stressing that it fits a bit big. As far as pockets vs none, I was just thinking in retrospect that, gee more space for stuff is always nice, but probably cant warrant spending another $50-100 for a new tunic. I still need to get some cotton liners for that more authentic look too. To Stuka, I'm fairly certain those first ones are either post war, or some other warsaw pact countries, and the second ones from hiki look identical to the ones I have, which are too small; Though a second opinion may very well prove me wrong. Its looking like I'll just carry the stick mags inside of my gas mask bag instead and have a drum mag pouch on the belt. Heres one last question I pose to you. I have a pair of east german jackboots, and while they fit good, they feel weird as hell on my feet. I've been wanting to try low boots, but didn't know if there were boots that were more correct than others. I've seen US service shoes, German low boots, to British low boots, all with puttees of course. Thanks again guys
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Post by volkssturm on Nov 13, 2013 23:25:26 GMT -5
US service shoes would be very correct. Service hoes were a major Lend-Lease item sent to Russia. Along with "Roosevelt Sausage", aka Spam. Shoes and boots were always in short supply and Russian soldiers would take considerable risks to recover them from the dead in no man's land.
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Post by SgtShaw on Nov 14, 2013 0:54:38 GMT -5
US service shoes would be very correct. Service hoes were a major Lend-Lease item sent to Russia. Along with "Roosevelt Sausage", aka Spam. Shoes and boots were always in short supply and Russian soldiers would take considerable risks to recover them from the dead in no man's land. So could I get away with using German low boots with puttees? The only other impression I see myself doing in the foreseeable future is a basic German infantryman, so I could use the boots with either.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 14, 2013 1:58:41 GMT -5
Indeed German low boots would be fine.
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Post by SgtShaw on Nov 14, 2013 12:29:38 GMT -5
I'm finding a wide variety of low boots out there, mostly reproductions from east asia (India and China). Are there any you guys can recommend?
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Post by shiftysgarand on Nov 14, 2013 18:06:21 GMT -5
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Post by SgtShaw on Nov 18, 2013 21:15:34 GMT -5
More Questions! I've seen a lot of Soviet Reenactors with very unissued looking RGD-33 grenades(Soviet Stick Grenades) and I'm curious as to whether someone makes reproductions or is there a source for inert originals? I saw some originals on ebay a year ago, was very tempted to buy a few (Were about $98 a piece from Ukraine). Also, there were some items I was considering for cold weather play, such as a German Toque (Head scarf) but didn't know how common it was for soviets to use such items from captured Germans. Also whats generally recommended to be worn under your gimnasterka? I figured a pair of long johns in the winter and just a white shirt and whatever in warmer weather, but didn't know what would be correct for each scenario. Thanks Guys Attachments:
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Post by Mr. Spank on Jan 11, 2017 10:59:16 GMT -5
Soviets had подшлемник/balaclava. A wool one. They used a very similar one through out subsequent conflicts like Afghanistan in the 1980s and Chechnya in the 1990s. The later models are easy to find. They are a beige or brown or pinkish color. By now you should be well aware that color variation is pretty standard for Soviet kit.
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Post by Maggi on Jan 29, 2017 15:35:46 GMT -5
Schusters.ru has a lot of items, you should take a look there. link
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