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Post by necromasher on Feb 28, 2014 19:56:29 GMT -5
Sorry for the vague title, I just recently got into making my own world war 2 Waffen-SS (5th SS Panzer Division Wiking) field loadout. I have a deep passion for World War Two and Germany' s involvement up until the very end of course. Anyway, I'm new here so be gentle ok? lol.... I'm fairly new to the whole buy and upgrade it yourself thing, I'd like to hear a direct response from you professionals. I'm interested in buying an MP40, but which one should I get? should I wait for KWA's MP40? or should I just buy an AGM or ICS MP40 and upgrade it to more sufficient internals?
TL;DR
I'd like to upgrade my AGM MP40 to more sufficient internals to be more formidable on the field up against modern day weaponry in a cqb/field environment (if possible).
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Post by newcomer on Feb 28, 2014 21:17:34 GMT -5
the stock agm mp40 isn't half bad, but the real flaw from my experience was the lack of range with the stock hop up; your maximum range is 70m, and effective range is about 40-50m honestly.
I would think that an improved hop up and tightbore barrel would fix that issue.
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Post by brownien on Feb 28, 2014 22:20:55 GMT -5
If you are looking to portray a regular rifleman, a kar98k would be best. But if you want to stay competitive at modern games, an Stg44 would give you the Fps, Rof and range of an average M4 or Ak, and you would have the mag capacity of most modern rifles. An Mp40 would be a good choice for the price, but as said, the stock hopup and barrel would need to be replaced to get any kind of range like an m4, and even then, you will be limited to midcaps.
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Post by necromasher on Feb 28, 2014 22:35:34 GMT -5
I love the StG-44 but at the moment, spare magazines are hard to come by. I'm sticking with the MP40, I want it cuz its ideal for cqb, running on a 9.6 wouldn't hurt either.
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Post by newcomer on Mar 1, 2014 0:05:56 GMT -5
its definitely a superb starter gun, and a good project gun. The midcaps (or even the lowcaps) aren't that bad; provided you have fire discipline
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Post by necromasher on Mar 2, 2014 0:57:52 GMT -5
Yeah, KWA mp40 is a gas blow back, its not coming out this year, but they revealed it at shotshow 2014 last month.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Mar 2, 2014 1:34:46 GMT -5
The current AGM MP 40 is cheap, reliable and even without upgrades is a decent little gun. For CQB you want to be sure your FPS meets any limitations the venue or players have. Magazines are readily available and inepensive. I would stay away fom GBB weapons although they have their cool factors as well.
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Post by necromasher on Mar 4, 2014 10:02:37 GMT -5
The current AGM MP 40 is cheap, reliable and even without upgrades is a decent little gun. For CQB you want to be sure your FPS meets any limitations the venue or players have. Magazines are readily available and inepensive. I would stay away fom GBB weapons although they have their cool factors as well. Yeah this is true, GBB are cool.
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Post by shiftysgarand on Mar 5, 2014 17:49:55 GMT -5
KWA's are generally reliable, I don't think the MP40 will be an exception. I do think, though, you should get an AEG first to use until it comes out, and as a backup.
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Post by gunslinginotaku on Mar 5, 2014 22:39:06 GMT -5
I love my AGM MP40, get a new bucking, tight bore, 7.4v lipo, and really that's all it needs, other things are helpful but depends if you're playing CQB or field more. I play field, so I dropped an M110, fixed my compression and some new parts only because I used it so much.
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Post by insterburger on Mar 7, 2014 15:50:23 GMT -5
I would agree with Brownien. It all depends on what kind of games you're playing. If you were in the Northeast, I would be advising against getting any kind of MP40 at all. We are headed toward a model of mainly semi-auto or bolt action riflemen supported by a HMG, with hopped down SMGs for squad leaders. It has been awesome so far, and I truly think this will become the model nationwide in the future as players discover the benefits of the more realistic and less "spray and pray" tactics. While most MP40s can be switched to semi-auto, players would mostly be better served by a 98k or Stg44, as Brownien said. Even at entry level, I would say the StG is well worth the extra money, and will be even moreso as this sport turns toward single shot play.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Mar 7, 2014 19:02:43 GMT -5
Late late in the war, German units were much much smaller but there was an increased percentage of sub machine guns issued and of course the STG and G-43 semi auto weapond started getting issued (albeit in limited numbers). It remains appropriate that most weapons on the WW2 airsoft fields should e semi automatic with reasonably limited ammunition.
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Post by Jerry-ADK on Mar 7, 2014 20:19:09 GMT -5
Necromasher, Im not sure where you live, but if you like WW2 and are all about Germany, you would be better served by hooking up with the local WW2 airsoft community in your area, or starting it yourself if there is none by going to modern events in your kit and generating interest in the hobby. You will most undoubtably be very happy with others who share in your interest.
I have the AGM MP40 and I like it a lot, it's very reliable right out of the box. And the price is right for a starter gun.
Personally though I am looking to get away from SMG's because as stated earlier by Interburger in the NE we are moving toward a more realistic tactical model based around HMG's with riflemen who are bolt action or semi-auto.
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Post by Jerry-ADK on Mar 8, 2014 22:30:21 GMT -5
Also, if you weren't trying to play with modern airsofters, I wouldnt even bother upgrading the AGM at all cause the slower rate of fire and inaccuracies of the weapon are right in line with how it historically functioned.
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Post by necromasher on Mar 13, 2014 1:07:58 GMT -5
I see good points Jerry, I didn't think about the realism part.
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Post by bram762 on Mar 17, 2014 14:38:26 GMT -5
Hey necrosmasher, I'd definitely say go with the agm. It's stupid easy to fiddle with, upgrade and fix. The hop-up iiisss a bit finicky and replacing the barrel gave me a few hours of fun but its well worth. As to "New comer" an his post 70 meter's(let's stick with yards ehh? this is America) say 60-70yards is plenty. Unless your using a bolt action spring rifle upgraded to 500fps or higher with a tightbore and .43's your not going to get more than that outa any airsoft gun. I'v poured hundreds into trying to max out he range of my old, now sold m16 and it was all in vain. We'r shooting round plastic, low fps(compared to even pistol cartridge's) through wind, bushed, ect at people that are moving and shooting back. An Agm with an m110, degrease the green gunk in it, maybe a spring guide with a ball bearing, and I'd recommend an eg1000 motor, and ur golden. Want even more? get a 10inch tightbore and get it in there
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Post by ssgjoe on Mar 17, 2014 17:44:05 GMT -5
I'm squad leader so I got an MP40. But, my squad is only three people. Me, a guy getting an MG42, and a kar98. I'm the only one with a kit that can go on the field. Yeah. Our WWII airsoft community is small here. But I will be squad leader, so I'm still golden!
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