Dracul
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Post by Dracul on Aug 8, 2014 22:39:14 GMT -5
So, the Wife and I went to our favorite surplus store today, and picked up these pouches for 5 bucks a pop. They had a good amount more, so next time we are down there, we might clear them out, haha. It looks pretty Germanic. Obviously not the famous Kar98 pouches, but the cells are about the same size and have similar features, hardware, and construction as the German WWII ones. Thinking maybe postwar Austrian or Swiss, no markings...
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Post by volkssturm on Aug 8, 2014 23:53:35 GMT -5
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Post by Dracul on Aug 9, 2014 6:04:03 GMT -5
The description is right on, but when I reverse the search. Searching "Vz24 Pouch", doesn't look I'm finding this style at all. The first image from that search, which is what I have, goes to another forum, where that page doesn't have the picture any more. Nothing else to really back this idea up. The rest are a bunch of everything else.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Aug 9, 2014 22:08:15 GMT -5
They look like turkish mauser pouches to me.
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Post by Dracul on Aug 10, 2014 22:39:29 GMT -5
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Post by 2nd Bat on Aug 10, 2014 22:44:32 GMT -5
Though definitely not German WW2 Mauser pouches they look close enough for my standards and look a bit larger which might accomodate the Mags for "Bar 98" conversions. I would think once dyed in black they would pass at a glance.
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Post by Dracul on Aug 10, 2014 23:28:48 GMT -5
I didn't know what era to expect these were from. WWI, WWII, Post War, etc etc. Its why I posted here, haha. I don't intend to dye or paint these, I think as is, these make good loaner, stand in, stop gap pouches. On that note, this is what I was able to fit in: My 1903 mags ( link, shotgun shell for scale since I didn't use a BAR-10 for the mod); Three fit in the pouch fairly snug, but I could barely close it with two in and oddly placed. They seem to hold three Mauser stripper clips no problem.
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Post by Dracul on Aug 16, 2014 22:16:53 GMT -5
More 5 dollar mystery pouches from the Full Metal Jacket Surplus Store!!! Except I'm fairly sure that two of these are Swiss, but don't know the purpose for one. Three pouches. Back of one. Note that Swiss army style cross is making me think Swiss. Here is the back of the long, single cell pouch. Again with the Swiss army style cross. What was this used for? Here is some back and inside flap shots of the first pouch. Can't make out what it is at all: Still unsure about a lot of things, but couldn't beat these prices for possible loaner, stand in, and/or just collectible gear.
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Post by aldrich on Aug 17, 2014 9:41:14 GMT -5
The first pouches pictured would make excellent WWII Russian pouches. Many people (myself included unfortunately) use the two tone "kirza" pouches that come with your average mosin nagant. In reality, these would only be acceptable for a battle of Berlin scenario, perhaps not event that. Otherwise, they also look quite like the pouches used by the Hungarian army on the Russian front. The top left pouch on the group of three pouches is Yugoslavian, the bottom one I believe is Swiss. The Russians early on had a pouch similar to the long one used for carrying a cleaning kit for the rifle. It is possible that this is what it was used for by the Swiss as well.
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Post by Dracul on Aug 17, 2014 10:55:38 GMT -5
Is "Kirza" the ones with the "y" shaped closure straps? If so, I've been making that mental mistake as well, haha. Well, good to know for when I eventually get to WWII Russian impressions.
Just looked at the Hungarian Mosin/Mauser pouch, and this by far is the closet I seen to what I have in the first pic. Even down to those square indents on the front face of the cells. Still, mine is a 2 cell with the suspender hook and the got rivets in the circle stitch. Post War perhaps?
As for the long one, I'm finding them all over, but no one seems to know what it is. Rifle Cleaning kit is a possibility, but I think it might have been a first aid pouch. Though, I have found similar Swiss pouches called "Corporal Pouches" and were used to carry maps and such.
Upon digging, I found that the 2 cell Swiss pouches, goes online for at least 40 bucks. I got them for 5 bucks, and while it will need some cleaning, this was too good of a snatch.
Seems like I'm doing quite well with this, thank you for your help!
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Post by Dracul on Jan 3, 2015 14:26:52 GMT -5
Oh man, my old links stopped working. I have to figure something soon. Didn't think this would happen. Until I fix this, I have a set of new pouches in from a big deal I got my hands on, full of mostly East German stuff, and some American and British stuff. Most of the stuff I ID'd already, so I'll just focus on the pouches I need help with. Mystery Pouch 1: The top lid opens away from you, if you are wearing it, and there isn't a closure method, it also has those "Sorry Pieces" nubs (as I call them) on the side. I didn't get any strap that came with this. No markings. Mystery Pouch 2: Side by side comparison with a Serbian single cell ammo pouch. Its like a Serbian pouch, except its slightly shorter and thinner, like it holds one less stripper clip. Note, the Serbians also had dual mag pouches, with a suspender attachment as well, I only have the single cell one to compare it to. But, I'd imagine it would look similar. The last image has the only marking on the entire thing. It also holds three Echo1 M28 mags, similar in size to the L96 and M24 mags, which makes these quite practical for airsofting. Mystery Pouch 3: Looks similar to a WWII British gas mask and radio pouch. It has the Britsh style closure tab. My buddy suggests it could be 1960's Israeli. In the first image, note the markings and the flap pocket, the large D ring on the strap base, and the straps aren't removable. Second image, the side pockets only go about halfway down. Third image is why I'm skeptical about it being British or anything Commonwealth. This pouch completely lacks the C-shaped clips that attach to the P37 belt. Instead there is two D rings on the side and note the clip on the strap. Maybe this was intended to wear as a satchel, and the D rings are there tie around your thigh? That is all I have for now. I now also have a Belgian Brodie Helm thats completely the insides, that I have to refurbish.
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