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Post by murph1797 on Nov 12, 2014 16:51:29 GMT -5
Ok guys....
What do you use for eye protection? At the field I play at, you have to where the full ballistic goggles, but I can't figure out how to fit them on, or underneath my M1 helmet. Any advice?
Thanks! Nick
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Post by Dracul on Nov 12, 2014 17:01:03 GMT -5
When it comes to full seal goggles, I suggest just dropping the cash on some Oakley or ESS goggles. Military grade stuff. Can be easily be worn under or over the helmet. Personally, I really do like Oakley transition lenses and highly suggest them. They provide nearly has much sun protection as the black lenses do, but you can still easily see elsewhere. Great for when going in and out of buildings and through woodland where going from sun to shade is constant. Now, I have heard a lot of good things about these Guarder ones from other airsofters, especially since they are really good against fogging up. I haven't tried these out yet, but I have been meaning to, but I haven't got around to it. www.evike.com/products/44647/www.evike.com/products/24932/
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Post by ssgjoe on Nov 13, 2014 22:18:36 GMT -5
Full face masks are required at a lot of the fields here in CA, and completely ruin the look your impression has. But I wear full seal Wiley X's. I hope to get M frames at some point.
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Post by huxy on Nov 15, 2014 21:23:11 GMT -5
Only glasses are required here in Norway. At WW2-games, we strongly try to just use glasses without a prominent frame. I use Bollé Silium.
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Post by Dracul on Nov 17, 2014 12:31:49 GMT -5
I wish more American fields would start to allow just glasses like that. This whole goggle business is getting old and stupid. Us Service Members are allowed to wear ballistic eye pro when deployed, where REAL bullets and explosions are aimed at them. Fields out here says things like "Oh, a stray BB can find itself flying the "gap" left by glasses", and yet, there was never a report of that "gap" causing death or injury to a combat deployed Service Member. Ugh...
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Post by stuka on Nov 17, 2014 17:25:22 GMT -5
real life is a bit different then airsoft. If a bullet hit your glasses, you're screwed regardless. with airsoft, you want to actually live after the event and have all bits intact especially since you're not in a lethal event. You want to be able to protect your eyes and since bb's are small, you need sealed goggles.
Also, people sue over anything and everything even if it's the individuals fault so, liabilities and legalities etc.
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Post by Dracul on Nov 17, 2014 17:37:38 GMT -5
Ballistic glasses are made from the same material as ballistic goggles. Especially everything that ESS and Oakley makes. Only difference between the two is that goggles have a gasket and head strap, while glasses have a frame. All ballistic glasses cover nearly the same areas as goggles.
If someone manages to break ballistic glasses with a BB, then someone upgraded gun to some insane level, like +600fps with any weight BB, that wouldn't be allowed at any fields. That would also be past the point of the BB puncturing uniforms and breaking skin. So, you'll see the latter way before they start cracking ballistic eye pro, and hopefully the a-hole who is running a hot gun like that would be banned or removed from the field.
The same Oakley M Frames I've worn from my early years in the Marines and until now, 6 months after I get out, and I've worn for over a year and a half of playing airsoft, never broke due from being shot by BB.
A lot of the worry are just myths carried over from former paintballers and paintball fields.
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Post by stuka on Nov 17, 2014 18:21:13 GMT -5
Yeah but I thought you were saying you were complaining about glasses not being allowed due to them not being sealed?
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Post by huxy on Nov 17, 2014 18:23:25 GMT -5
There's an ANSI-code for ballistic protection that far exceeds the ballistic effect airsoft has. As said, I use the Bollé Silium which has this ANSI-rating.
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Post by Dracul on Nov 17, 2014 18:40:58 GMT -5
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Post by ssgjoe on Nov 17, 2014 19:04:12 GMT -5
I mentioned M Frames, not husky. Just sayin'
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 17, 2014 19:25:10 GMT -5
I really like mesh goggles as they don't fog and don't send off a reflection. I paint mine beige so they are less obtrusive. I insure that the mesh has capable ballistic properties. The chear airsoft mesh masks and goggles often times don't for anything beyond 12 gram at 300 FPS so shouldn't be used at our events. the potential for spall (shards of BBs) getting through the mesh is possible (especially when using BIO BBs) but is fine for me as I have prescription glasses underneath.
even at night I find the mesh goggles functional and superior to lenses.
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Post by volkssturm on Nov 17, 2014 21:50:54 GMT -5
I wear glasses and it's always been a problem. I've had good luck though with these: www.gemplers.com/product/WEBS1169C/UVEX-Astrospec-3000-Standard-Safety-GlassesThey fit over the glasses, there's just enough of a gap around the edge to get airflow to reduce fogging. So far no BB's have managed to do enough right angle turns to get inside. Of course, if the field requires full seal, they're not acceptable. Gempler's has a good selection of safety glasses and goggles.
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Post by stuka on Nov 17, 2014 22:05:01 GMT -5
I failed miserably in what I was trying to say so my bad. I wasn't saying that the bb's could shatter the glass but if you're wearing glasses in the field, doesn't matter whether you're wearing goggle or glasses, you're probably dead.
In airsoft it does matter. You're not going to die so you may as well keep your eyes and wear something that sealed on the weird off chance that a bb ricochets and goes through the side and hits you in the eye. I have been hit in the tongue even though I had a helmet with a visor(think riot helmets) probably via ricochet. It was a weird feeling but hey, the tongue is fine.
The point is, it can hapen, maybe not to you or me but somebody else, somebody not so lucky so why risk losing an eye? Heck, you don't get into an accident everyday but you wear your seat belt just in case right?I hope?
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