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Post by luftwelle93 on Dec 6, 2014 13:58:22 GMT -5
Another question I have concerning the gear of U.S. Army in Pacific theater.Since they didn't carry much gear with them,what piece of gear did they bring to carry food or personal items in?
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Post by shiftysgarand on Dec 6, 2014 16:29:47 GMT -5
I'm not an expert on the pacific, but I would guess just jacket and trouser pockets.
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Post by patrickl29th on Dec 6, 2014 16:50:45 GMT -5
A regular Infantry soldier in ETO would have his haversack, but most soldiers left there food at camp. Ill look at original pics and see what I can find.
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Post by patrickl29th on Dec 6, 2014 16:55:37 GMT -5
Just get a Cartridge belt and combat suspenders and that that would be a good start with web gear.
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Post by volkssturm on Dec 6, 2014 21:18:06 GMT -5
Seems to me I read once that the big pockets on the M1942 HBT's were sized to hold a K-ration box.
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Post by OwO Jima on Dec 7, 2014 2:16:55 GMT -5
Don't forget the early campaigns either! I love the look of the pre-war Army, which carried over into the first few months of the war. The defenders of Bataan and Corregidor wore the cotton khaki uniform and/ or the Army Denim uniforms with M1917A1 Kelly helmets. The Americal Division landed on Guadalcanal wearing the same uniforms, but with fixed bale M1 helmets with Hawley fibre liners. My main interest is the Guadalcanal campaign, so after I finish my USMC impression, I'd like to do the Americal division. Too bad there's not a big interest in PTO, since there are so few events for the theater, and even fewer for the early campaigns. Also, I haven't seen anyone mention some PTO/ CBI specific items like the jungle first aid kit, jungle pack, jungle boots, and camouflage one piece jungle suit which came later. Note: the blue denim uniform isn't the USN Dungaree uniform, but the Army denim fatigues. These were the precursor to the H.B.T. uniforms. The 25th Infantry Division landed on Guadalcanal wearing a combination of 1st pattern HBTs and HBT coveralls. The coveralls were issued due to a lack of HBT sets, but were found to be impractical for jungle warfare.
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Post by luftwelle93 on Dec 7, 2014 14:58:39 GMT -5
Good to know that the pockets would be big enough :)I got the general list so far...
1.M1 helmet 2.HBT M42 shirt 3.HBT trousers 4.Garand belt 5.Suspenders 6.First aid pouch 7.Canteen 8.Undershirt 9.Personal items
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Post by volkssturm on Dec 7, 2014 17:02:07 GMT -5
Booniefox, great pictures. Thanks.
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Post by patrickl29th on Dec 7, 2014 18:16:15 GMT -5
and for boots get US roughout shoes
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Post by shiftysgarand on Dec 7, 2014 19:25:35 GMT -5
I agree with Patrick on the roughouts, but you don't need suspenders. The M1928 haversack had its own suspenders, so infantry weren't issued another set (airborne is a different matter). If you don't get a haversack, tighten up the cartridge belt and stuff items inside your jacket to keep it from falling down
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Post by OwO Jima on Dec 8, 2014 3:17:02 GMT -5
The roughouts came about in early '43, so either standard or roughout service shoes should be fine, though both had short life expectancy in the jungle. Make sure the roughouts are dubbed really good if that's the route you go. I agree with the others in that the suspenders are unnecessary, but I'd also like to point out that an undershirt is also unnecessary. You can see in the photos above that almost no-one is wearing one, and that's an early campaign. No doubt that the practice was carried out through the course of the war.
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Post by luftwelle93 on Dec 8, 2014 12:42:12 GMT -5
Good tips from all!I will probably hold off the IJA and U.S. Army impression till summer.I have Heer and Finnish ones to get done with
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Post by LϟϟAH1944 on Dec 8, 2014 19:28:11 GMT -5
As a basic piece of advice; one should have what they were issued, rather than what they commonly had. if they commonly ditched it, then do be it, but they still would have had it (even if they weren't wearing it)
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 8, 2014 20:08:11 GMT -5
I guess I am confused by that statement LSSAH? For our purposes of presenting an accurate field appearance why would I feel the need to have a gas mask, t shirts, proper underwear (which no one wore in the tropics due to the crotch rot they caused) or any of the paraphenalia that stayed in the rear or your hootch? Obviously in a perfect world it would be great to have it all but to accurately get by and NOT be a distraction to others why not at least initially focus on that which would have been seen. Obviously from those pictures uniforms in the field were pretty varied and quite minimlistic.
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