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Post by Dracul on Dec 12, 2014 23:00:15 GMT -5
Unless you have a super cheap Party City helmet, it really shouldn't.
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Post by ssgjoe on Dec 13, 2014 16:02:17 GMT -5
But remember, steel is less likely to crack
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Post by luftwelle93 on Dec 13, 2014 16:34:22 GMT -5
I'm getting my M42 soon so I very anxious to see how it looks with the rest of my kit.I will probably put chicken wire over it.
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Post by ssgjoe on Dec 13, 2014 22:51:56 GMT -5
Germanhelmetsinc.com is selling original 64 cm helmets for $100 per shell. But let's not detail this thread too much
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Post by LϟϟAH1944 on Dec 14, 2014 0:02:46 GMT -5
Don't worry, its not derailing it at all. That's why Patrick started this, lol, for advice and getting people to up their impressions. And, based on some I've recently seen posted, many need LOTS of work.
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Post by LϟϟAH1944 on Dec 14, 2014 0:04:37 GMT -5
Luftwelle, chicken wire would be great for a heer impression. are you getting a repro or original shell?
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Post by luftwelle93 on Dec 14, 2014 1:02:27 GMT -5
Luftwelle, chicken wire would be great for a heer impression. are you getting a repro or original shell? I'm getting a repro.I'm not sure if I can find any decent wire around where I'm at.I'll probably do the single bailing wire cover if I can't get decent wire netting. www.german-helmets.com/Camouflage%20Wire%20Types.htm
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Post by ssgjoe on Dec 14, 2014 11:02:14 GMT -5
I always thought the helmet netting looked better than chicken wire. But that's my opinion
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 14, 2014 12:47:41 GMT -5
Knowing that the chicken wire was rather uncommon I will resist doing more than one or two of my helmets that way. The link however is a great resource.
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Post by luftwelle93 on Dec 14, 2014 13:12:34 GMT -5
I think I'll stick to using just the wires for netting.It looks very simple and the materials easy to find.Yea the link is very cool and what I needed to look up this type of thing.
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Post by ssgjoe on Dec 14, 2014 14:13:53 GMT -5
Keep in mind there is a difference between American and European chicken wire
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Post by LϟϟAH1944 on Dec 14, 2014 17:47:00 GMT -5
^^ Yes. That's one of the biggest issues, the difference in wires.
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Post by luftwelle93 on Dec 15, 2014 13:34:59 GMT -5
With more availability of WW2 guns I hope that our hobby grows to enough where we can have a D-Day sized battle
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Post by shiftysgarand on Dec 15, 2014 19:54:40 GMT -5
Once insterburger wins the lottery, after his big rig park, I'm sure that's at the top of his to do list
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 15, 2014 20:50:21 GMT -5
With a lotto win id be building tanks and halftracks.
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Post by LϟϟAH1944 on Dec 15, 2014 21:54:05 GMT -5
Well, we can get to that level. But, we gotta up our game...which is the point of this thread. many people here think they have fine impressions, but in reality, don't.
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Post by ssgjoe on Dec 16, 2014 0:50:23 GMT -5
^^ I am in total agreement. It's harsh but true lol if someone is new, I think it's fine if their impression isn't great. But I think the "it's good enough" mentality isn't the way to go to be honest, even if you're not made of money, I'm sure not made of money and I've pieced together a relatively nice impression I think.
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Post by ssgjoe on Dec 16, 2014 0:51:56 GMT -5
But that's for others to judge
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Post by luftwelle93 on Dec 16, 2014 14:37:16 GMT -5
I highly recommend anyone to just get basic stuff.Places like ATF and Hessen probably might seem discouraging price wise concerning tunics and gear.I highly reccommend Hiki.Stitch-Nazis might hate the Chinese stuff but for guys like me I don't really mind it.I think for airsofting quality in gear and uniforms shouldn't be an issue unless its plain bad looking and it would have to be REALLY bad looking.One thing that separates airsofting and serious reenacting is it is all for pure fun with minimal restrictions in what you should look as long as your authentic enough.
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Post by LϟϟAH1944 on Dec 16, 2014 14:39:56 GMT -5
Hiki is fine. I don't care how thick the wool on your feldbluse is, or the perfect stitching, etc. - so long as its just that, a feldbluse. The days of east german tunics should be long gone, especially with $40 tunics from hikishop.
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Post by luftwelle93 on Dec 16, 2014 17:04:32 GMT -5
Yea I really love what Hiki is doing.They have stuff that is really hard to come by like Finnish,Chinese Nationalist,Imperial Japanese,ect.I prefer airsofting events than reenacting because in airsofting you can still have the tactics and competition while you actually fire projectiles
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Post by ssgjoe on Dec 16, 2014 18:14:46 GMT -5
Yes. I'd rather spend the $90 for a good Man the Line or Gavin tunic than $400-500+ for a perfect texled/on the march one. And the differences between a Gavin/MTL/Sturm tunic and an on the march/texled tunic isn't really worth the $500 in my opinion. I know the "it's good enough" mentality isn't the best, but in this case it doesn't even matter. No one is going to call you out at an event for having a Sturm tunic, unless you're wearing it for walking out. For the price of an on the march uniform, you could save up a little more and buy an original feldbluse. However, it never hurts to get your $90 tunic tailored if you're all for that.
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Post by luftwelle93 on Dec 16, 2014 18:55:59 GMT -5
Yea and as the war went on Germany's textile manufactures for frontline uniforms wasn't as high quality wool-wise.Anyways Michigan is the closest arena for WW2 events so soon I would love to finally put my uniform/gear to good use.
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Post by LϟϟAH1944 on Dec 16, 2014 19:48:12 GMT -5
One other point:
Rev war reenactors would KILL to have the amount of resources us ww2 people have. Yet, despite our spoiling of this, we COMTINUE to ignore period photos and not use them. COME ON. RESEARCH IS PART OF THIS HOBBY.
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Post by ssgjoe on Dec 16, 2014 19:52:45 GMT -5
Hear hear! The resources are so vast that you can research specific units. Let's take advantage of that.
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Post by shiftysgarand on Dec 16, 2014 20:10:46 GMT -5
One other point: Rev war reenactors would KILL to have the amount of resources us ww2 people have. Yet, despite our spoiling of this, we COMTINUE to ignore period photos and not use them. COME ON. RESEARCH IS PART OF THIS HOBBY. Indeed, and while they are rapidly decreasing in number, we also have living veterans to talk to, something that most other reenactors lack.
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Post by OwO Jima on Dec 17, 2014 1:43:13 GMT -5
When if comes to uniforms, I like using a system of doubles for my main impression - one to beat up, cake in mud, tear, and get that "been there-done that" look, the other for taking detailed impression photos and public displays. My field uniform doesn't need to be perfect, but it needs to not be obviously wrong, even when caked in mud and torn up. I also need it to hold up to the rigors of both airsoft and reenacting, so it needs to be robust - I don't want to have to replace it every year. I make an exception with footwear, since I kinda cherish my feet. I'll always buy the best boots, since boots are my hardest worn piece of kit.
I prefer my display uniforms to be original, but that's not always possible - either due to a lack of originals in my size, or the collectors market has driven the price up way beyond what I'm willing to pay. For those instances, I look for the best, most accurate reproduction around my price range. I have no qualms about dishing money out for quality repros for my purpose.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 17, 2014 18:01:48 GMT -5
Since of events strive to simulate both combat and camp life in a pwrfect world it would be great if everyone had all the typically issued gear but at this point quite unreasonable. At our events we all ow modern items such as contemporary sleeping bags, coolers, cots etc. But insist they be out of sight inside tents or under OD canvas tarps when not in use. This helps with participation and ambiance and for now is a good compromise.
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