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Post by IwoJima3823 on Oct 24, 2015 12:17:17 GMT -5
I have an ICS M1 Garand AEG in really great condition, only used a few times, noting is damaged that I want to trade for a Marushin M1 Garand. The reason for trade is because I don't like the Mags on it, I cant put them in my belt and have to have a bandolier, I always go accurate as can be or not at all. I like how the Marushin has the ejecting enblock, 8 round enblock, blowback, and everything but the one thing I'm iffy about is the gas in it, how many enblocks can I go through before I need a refill?
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Post by stuka on Oct 24, 2015 13:35:46 GMT -5
It will pry break before you have to refill
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Post by shiftysgarand on Oct 24, 2015 14:04:36 GMT -5
A Marushin M1 Garand is not a gun you can just throw in the back of your car after a game and pull it out for the next one; it requires a lot of maintenance and babying, more than most people are willing to do. Before each game you have to tighten down about 20 screws (including the one in the infamous part 45), check a whole bunch of seals, and make sure that the front end is solid (it likes to wobble around.) You need to recheck these every 200 rounds or after every skirmish day, whichever comes first. To be successful with this gun, you also need to be good at catching the clips as they eject, as they are pretty expensive and rarer than rocking horse poo. If you are conservative with your shots and space them out, you can generally get about 6 clips out before having to re-gas. It's not a gun for everyone, but a skilled rifleman can do some damage with it.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Oct 24, 2015 17:10:48 GMT -5
A lot of factors effect how many clips you can get out of the gun before having to squeaze in more gas. (Outside temperature, how rapidly you shoot, how complete your fill was and how good your seals are). In Summer temperatures I found I could get 4 or sometimes 5 clips with the performance somewhat off for the last 3 or 4 rounds. Some owners rig an external gas source for greater consistancy and results. Many (but not all) of the screws can be loctited which somewhat reduces your need for care and maintenance).
Even the fans of the Marushin will tell you it requires a lot of attention and care. When fully functional there is no cooler gun than the Marushin M1 Garand. Visually it is vastly superior to the ICS M1 Garand.
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Post by IwoJima3823 on Oct 24, 2015 17:38:42 GMT -5
A Marushin M1 Garand is not a gun you can just throw in the back of your car after a game and pull it out for the next one; it requires a lot of maintenance and babying, more than most people are willing to do. Before each game you have to tighten down about 20 screws (including the one in the infamous part 45), check a whole bunch of seals, and make sure that the front end is solid (it likes to wobble around.) You need to recheck these every 200 rounds or after every skirmish day, whichever comes first. To be successful with this gun, you also need to be good at catching the clips as they eject, as they are pretty expensive and rarer than rocking horse poo. If you are conservative with your shots and space them out, you can generally get about 6 clips out before having to re-gas. It's not a gun for everyone, but a skilled rifleman can do some damage with it. Is it a real pain in the @ss to get everything set up before a game? and what do you do when you have to refill, keep an extran can on you?
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Post by 2nd Bat on Oct 24, 2015 21:15:18 GMT -5
Yes. At least one! Believe me if I had a perfectly functional Marushin GBB Garand (does such a thing exist?) I would trade you for another ICS Garand quicker than it takes for a new Marine second Louis to say something stupid. I had two GBB Garands neither of which survived 800 rounds before self destructing.
The later Export editions were improved but by all accounts not much! Cpl Mills skirmishes successfully with his but he's the only one here I know who does.
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Post by Dracul on Oct 24, 2015 22:04:50 GMT -5
If you remove the baseplates on the ICS mags, they fit the belt pouches, and still works fine in the Garand.
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Post by stuka on Oct 24, 2015 22:27:54 GMT -5
Technically you could have the parts the break be remade but that may cost you a lot of money
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Post by 2nd Bat on Oct 25, 2015 12:57:55 GMT -5
I've seen that as a discussion point but has anyone viably done so and thoroughly tested the results? If so I have never seen any follow up reports. An improved part 45 still doesn't eradicate the other limitations.
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Post by stuka on Oct 25, 2015 14:37:51 GMT -5
I haven't handled a working one my self but it seems the biggest problem is broken parts, past that it seems like a mildly imperishable weapon if you can keep track of your clips
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Post by <2>nd Rangers M/Sgt. Tom on Nov 11, 2015 15:47:37 GMT -5
I used the marushin M1 garand for many years, it is a great accurate weapon. However if requires alot of care and upkeep. The only reason I don't not use it any more is due to the gas not being available in the US anymore. Mine is a 2nd run when they first came out, so its uses 134a gas. With a lil tweaking my last chrono was 397 fps. It still works like a dream after all these years and 10 or so events. I'm all for someone trying to get one but make sure you get one with the clips, the clips are harder to find then the damn gun, once you learn the little quirks of the marushin its great weapon. As far as i know there is no shop selling it anymore you will have to hunt E-Bay and set up restock reminders on all the usual airsoft sites. If I run across one I will give you a heads up!
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