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Post by slick63 on Mar 19, 2016 11:39:06 GMT -5
Just spotted this over on the uk forum linkApparently still in the pipeline but based around a VSR design....
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Post by 2nd Bat on Mar 19, 2016 12:37:14 GMT -5
That's potentially awesome although RWA products are typically uber expensive and not great performers .
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Post by shiftysgarand on Mar 19, 2016 14:26:22 GMT -5
If it is truly VSR compatible, so-so out of the box performance is acceptable to me. I'm expecting an inhumane price tag though.
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Post by Dracul on Mar 19, 2016 15:00:57 GMT -5
As long as it is 100% VSR compatible and learns from S&T, and decently priced, I will be, very very happy.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Mar 19, 2016 21:08:34 GMT -5
There is absolutely no reason this offering if truly VSR based shouldn't perform well AND be affordable. The real wood stock of course will add cost over and above a VSR style rifle and the fact that it will sell in smaller numbers means from an economy of scale perspective development costs have to be divided such that costs will be higher but that should still mean under $300.00 and hopefully we'll under.
If it's too expensive it will just be an aspirational piece and if it doesn't perform well it will just be a wall hanger.
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Post by tommygunner9 on Mar 21, 2016 11:05:35 GMT -5
Anything with the brand "RWA" (redwolf airsoft) is bound to priced at a big chunk of change. The RWA M1919, for example, is priced at a heaping $1495.00. This also includes non-WWII guns that they sell with the brand RWA. The RWA is brand just means that they are Redwolf Airsoft custom guns.
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Post by stuka on Mar 22, 2016 13:02:39 GMT -5
Yeah I would be surprised if it's less than 500 USD before shipping.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Mar 23, 2016 18:17:33 GMT -5
I never knew that RWA was in fact Red Wolf Airsoft custom side but that makes perfect sense. I agree that odds are their Enfield will be far outside of the range that most of us see as affordable. It would fabulous if priced like the S&T Springfield ($200.00 or so) but unfortunately I too doubt that will be the case.
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Post by todd on Apr 18, 2016 20:24:03 GMT -5
That's potentially awesome although RWA products are typically uber expensive and not great performers . I just bought a real one from 1943 made in Britain for $395! Just kidding though it costs a lot of money for them to tool up for production. And when I receive the real one I won't be able to shoot it in my backyard!
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Post by stuka on Apr 18, 2016 23:50:55 GMT -5
I understand having them at a reasonable price but considering how their mg34 was well over a grand and absolutely trash, it is kind of annoying for it to cost so much and be soo bad.
The s&t springfield, while it had it's flaws, was a great price even with it's problems from what I have read
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Post by 2nd Bat on Apr 19, 2016 18:30:14 GMT -5
The S&T Springfield is a real winner as a replica but only ranks as decent as an Airsoft rifle. If they had just stuck with normal unaltered VSR internals it could have won on both counts.
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Post by DRK on Mar 11, 2017 6:34:51 GMT -5
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Post by shiftysgarand on Mar 11, 2017 13:34:16 GMT -5
320 fps, and the bolt opens in a way that the VSR's doesnt. With luck, sears, springs, and hopups would be compatible, but don't get your hopes up.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Mar 11, 2017 14:31:25 GMT -5
Looks fabulous! Certainly the right version for WW2 airsoft. No doubt too expensive to make a difference for our hobby.
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Post by gunner79 on Mar 14, 2017 9:53:20 GMT -5
The S&T Springfield is a real winner as a replica but only ranks as decent as an Airsoft rifle. If they had just stuck with normal unaltered VSR internals it could have won on both counts. Oh yeah - re RedWolf guns - the RWA '34 was/is a true rip-off of the first order, given it's price point. My brand spanking new RWA MG suffered a blown piston after a mere 300 rounds (fired in short bursts over 3 or 4 minutes of firing. Dimensionally inaccurate from the RS in many areas (I own a real one which enables me to make that claim). The 35 year old Asahi is far superior in all but on-board ammo capacity. Even then, it's performance and fidelity to detail is absolutely superior in comparison with the RWA gun (which is why I've managed to acquire 4 of the Asahi '34 over the years)! Given my experience with RWA,they consistently inflate costs and engage in marketing 'puffery' laid on thick and overheated on new product releases and are not above in making downright false or extremely exaggerated claims in many instances. It's clear to me that, in the end analysis, RW holds the general AS community in contempt (of course they are by no means the only AS outfit to adopt that attitude). Back on subject - I would be flabbergasted if the Enfield came did NOT come out with an initial price tag of $500, give or take some change.
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Post by volkssturm on Mar 14, 2017 14:04:25 GMT -5
That's potentially awesome although RWA products are typically uber expensive and not great performers . I just bought a real one from 1943 made in Britain for $395! Just kidding though it costs a lot of money for them to tool up for production. And when I receive the real one I won't be able to shoot it in my backyard! I bought a No. 1 Mk. III, made by BSA in 1917, for $30. Barrel's beautiful, shoots just fine. Of course, that was in 1973.....
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Post by slick63 on Mar 16, 2017 11:20:55 GMT -5
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Post by 2nd Bat on Mar 16, 2017 16:00:32 GMT -5
When I saw the 50£ I got excited. Then realized that's the preorder deposit. 600£s is what I expected and feared these would run. Certainly out of my price range. Given the under $200.00 price of the S&T Springfield and the just out A&K Garand I don't see this doing well.
With mass production this seems wrong to me. Granted it's production numbers would never rival M4s and it is real wood but....Yikes! Disappointing.
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Post by adrg on Mar 17, 2017 1:43:59 GMT -5
I think most of the RWA builds are a very disappointing in regards price:usefulness ratio. Same happen as for MG34. Lot's of complains for a US$ 1400 price tag. I just guess regular airsoft players aren't their target market. Good thing for the future - Chinese companies will look after this and if this is a good build - they will just copy. If not - certainly adds to general experience.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Apr 8, 2017 14:13:15 GMT -5
I think they kept the FPS low for the UK market otherwise it makes NO SENSE. You can get by with 320 FPS but just barely and with a bolt action your survivability in even a WW2 reenactment skirmish is extremely low. The cheap Springer Carbines shoot harder than that and are easier and faster to cock. This thing needs to be $250.00 and shoot around 450fps. Looks great and because of that alone will sell in very small volume. Sadly this will perpetuate the notion that WW2 replicas have too limited market appeal to invest in. Love seeing WW2 offerings but this is probably going to hurt us more than help us unless a Chinese company knocks it off, ups the power and cuts the price in half.
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Post by adrg on Oct 25, 2017 14:42:39 GMT -5
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Post by stuka on Oct 25, 2017 18:59:33 GMT -5
that is not as high priced as I feared but I am wondering about the quality of the parts considering their mg34 wasn't the best quality wise
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Post by 2nd Bat on Oct 26, 2017 15:01:56 GMT -5
If in fact it shoots in the 400 fps range w .20 gram and proves both reliable, accurate and durable that really isn't a horrible price point although the S & T Springfield set a lower price expectation that is hard to shake loose from. Seems like a major player should be able to come in around $300.00 given that VSR clones are pretty impressive performers and are under $150.00 all day long?
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Post by adrg on Oct 27, 2017 1:49:00 GMT -5
If this is a short pull springer it will perform less than normal VSR springer with heavier BB. The only advantage is correct position of the mag and easy to replace mag. The fact it runs at a price close to Tanaka K98 springer it puts in a high price range. Still I expect that the real price tag will be lower in US and higher in EU. We shall see.
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Post by stuka on Oct 27, 2017 2:55:41 GMT -5
if the mg34 is any indication, the price will probably be 100$ more from foreign websites likely to make up for the shipping cost (idk if it's changed but a full size airsoft gun cost ~95$ to ship when I bought one some years ago)
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Post by adrg on Oct 27, 2017 8:00:20 GMT -5
I see VIVA Arms logo on the presentation page - www.rwa-group.com/lee-enfieldI never owned anything done by Viva Arms - but I thought they are doing pretty proprietary parts.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Oct 27, 2017 10:36:00 GMT -5
Impressive! Anxious to read a field report from an owner.
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Post by slick63 on Jan 23, 2018 13:27:44 GMT -5
Tigerr111 have them in stock....shocking price...... link
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Post by slick63 on Feb 20, 2018 11:37:24 GMT -5
Sounds like a typical RWA product, overpriced and poor quality (quotes from the UK forum)........ UK link
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