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Post by rosedude8 on Jan 9, 2006 11:03:08 GMT -5
Hey everyone... I'm still trying to get started with my WW2 stuff but I still dont have any money... Need to start saving. Anyway my question is right now I have a springer Thompson, it works very well and I love it. However I want to get an Automatic one. The question is. Since I already have a Thompson should I just get the Garand and is it worth it. Or should I get the "real" Thompson. What I am looking for is which has better range and accuarcy. I know that the Garand has better accuracy, but which gets better distance. What are the average distances. (I read the other threads, didnt see anything really on the comparision of these two guns probably because they're so different)
Thanks, CptRose
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Post by Guinness on Jan 9, 2006 11:45:41 GMT -5
Standard battery of qualifying questions-
A) What part of the country do you live in?
B) If you live in the 'Northern Tier' or 'Mountain West', do you regularly play Airosft in the Winter?
C) How much experience/time do you have for weapons maintenance?
D) How many Thompsons are in your current squad/group/battalion?
E) Which do you think describes you best- "My main goal is to be able to play, but the after-game cleaning and maintenance....not so much"
or
"I put as much effort into preparing for a game both before and after the event as I do in the actual playing of the game"
Answer these questions and that should help guide you to a decision.
-G
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Post by silencer on Jan 9, 2006 11:52:40 GMT -5
I look at it as, If I buy a thompson or an mp40 I'll have a chance against my friends and random people at the fields that just happen to have aegs. I wonder why. In reality as people have said, wwIIairsoft events are very few so I wont get the garand for a while untill wwIIairsoft becomes more popular ( or an electric version of the garand comes out).
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Post by CharleyNovember on Jan 9, 2006 12:08:01 GMT -5
Thompson has ease of use and price going for it. Right out of the box throw a battery in no muss no fuss. You will probally need a hicap mag to play with other AEG's It shoots in the 280-300FPS range And it has a weak point where the outer barrel connects to the main body of the gun. This point has been known to crack and break. You can Paintsoft with the best/worst of them.
The Garand is a gas gun. Slightly more expensive than a Thompson. You need to take it apart and tighten locktite the screws that hold it together. You need to clean it after use. It is mostly wood and metal construction. and a very nice looking replica, so is the Thompson however. If you play in the winter and you use green gas/propane it will suffer from cooldown. If you convert it over to external co2/HPA use it will not have this problem but you will have a hose coming out of the stock. You will probally not be able to play Paintsoft with this gun.
Perhaps this info will help you make a more informed decision.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jan 22, 2006 16:06:52 GMT -5
Well said and since I have both guns I agree completely. There is no question the garand exceeds the Thompson in authenticity and uniqueness factors but is really not skirmishable in a non WW2 event or game that is restricted to realistic ammo loads. Range is quite comparable with a warm day and a well broken in garand with hop up set properly. Maybe a slight edge on the Thompson. Keep in mind the Thompson is typically shooting a .20 or .25 gram 6mm BB while I shoot .45 gram 8mm BBs in my garand so a player at range (120 feet away) will probably get hit by 5 to 8 rounds from the Thompson and only one or two from the garand he'll feel both about equally. At that range neither gun hits very hard so I might give the Garand the edge. At more typical engagement ranges (60 to 70 feet) your opponent will feel both pretty darn good.
The Thompson is way more skirmishable and practical but doesn't come close in the fun factor OR WOW factor at the field of play.
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Post by dualdragons on Jan 31, 2006 23:04:02 GMT -5
I guess that answers my question about the Garand. Bumber too. I dont play any WWII airsoft, though I use WWII equipment and my Thompson against other random airsofters with upgraded AEGs (I love it, WWII man VS the tactical bunch).
The Tokyo Marui M1A1 Thompson is a great gun but can use a tight bore barrel and a slight power upgrade to compete with other upgraded guns like AKs and M14s.
Question for those who own both: Would you say that the Thompson and the M1 Garand share the same effective range? (Thompson: .2g bbs & M1 Garand: .45g bbs)
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Post by CPL. Mills 2nd Rangers on Feb 1, 2006 7:31:12 GMT -5
I have both, I have an level 1 upgrade on my Thompson, so it shoots 350-365 FPS, and when I shoot the Garand, it seems to shoot about as far as the Thompson, I havnt set up both to test, but I think it shoots as far.
I was using .34 bbs at the time, so I'm sure the Garand will shoot farther when I use the .45s
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Post by dualdragons on Feb 1, 2006 18:26:48 GMT -5
My Thompson is stock except for the 6.03mm TB Barrel i put in it. I'm looking forward to bringing it up a little in power... haveing the limited range really hurt me last time I went into battle.
You say it can out-range it at that power? Maybe its worth it after all...? The fact is, the only people I play with have powered-up AEGs and they have me in check with their superior range and rate of fire (not to mention power, but thats not a big deal). I manage to get kills, but it would be nice to get a gun to keep up.
Would you say that the Garand is too hard to use against AEGs?
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Post by 2nd Bat on Feb 14, 2006 3:35:08 GMT -5
Generally speaking yes. (Imagine having to change mags every 8 rounds on semi with your Thompson when up against AEG players with Hi caps) That should give you the idea. Personally I find it challenging but highly rewarding!
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Post by HellRazor on Feb 17, 2006 3:31:13 GMT -5
I've been playing with my Garand here in Colorado at Several events. I have yet to have any serious issues where I was completely hosed by its power. I don't know why, but I do tend to out range my enemies up here, though not by much. As far as the cool factor, thats a huge one, that and the intimidation factor as well, people see and hear my baby on the feild and they fear for their lives! Anyhow, I would say go with which ever one you like more. Personally I have a M1 Garand, M16, MP5, and am working on a parastock M1 carbine.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Feb 17, 2006 14:41:54 GMT -5
There is no doubt the cool factor and intimidation factor of the Marushin Garand is huge. Even when games with modern players. If you enjoy the ooohs and aaawes you're garanteed them with the Garand.
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Post by bad lt on Aug 21, 2006 20:34:15 GMT -5
it depends wat kinda battles yer duin.if yer duing ctf u need a semi-auto or auto thompson.if yer duin just a regular battle then u need the garand.also it depends where u live. IT'S YOUR DECISION
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Post by nichollas mckenzie on Sept 15, 2006 23:51:41 GMT -5
do yall know where i can get a cheap m1 garand.
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Post by chadwick on Sept 17, 2006 15:59:28 GMT -5
I have a tm thompson upgraded to 375fps, and its the love of my (airsoft) life. its supprisingly acurate, more so than my ak47 or my M4. I personaly would go with a thompson. get some highcaps for it though. the lollipops is heavy, as much as the real thng (basicly) not much less (2-3 lbs) than a m249 star. I HIGHLY RECCOMEND this gun, but If this is your first AEG, I also HIGHLY RECCOMEND leaving it stock, and un-upgraded, at least untill you have a back up aeg. Beacuse an upgraded gun is much more prone to break.
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Post by Jager.Drü on Sept 17, 2006 21:53:58 GMT -5
No high caps! There was never a 420 round Thompson mag or was there? Low caps only, WWII events aren't "spray and pray" games.
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