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Post by Doom on Nov 19, 2006 0:29:58 GMT -5
Anyone here know if an AEG can be used in the Ruger 10/22 MG42 conversion kit? I ordered one for 139.99 and would like to put airsoft internals into it and have a lightweight, inexpensive version of "Hitler's Buzzsaw". It seems like it would be a fairly simple task if I could find the right size gun/barrel to go inside.....
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Post by 2ndranger on Nov 19, 2006 0:39:31 GMT -5
I was thinking of buying that too, hows the detail? Does the cocking handle work? Details, details!!! ;D ;D
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Post by 101steasykid on Nov 19, 2006 1:05:52 GMT -5
wow, that would be sweet, a inexpenisve mg42 aeg, lol great, i was thinking of doing the same to various other weapons, but yes, demensions and barrels lengths, and room is all a factor in it
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Post by savoy6 on Nov 19, 2006 12:51:14 GMT -5
one of the guys from black company down in louisiana did a conversion with this kit.its about 2/3 size to the real one (but i'm sure you know that already). www.black-company.com/IMG_0354.JPGthey had it at OP:Mercury but since i was working staff on the allied side i didn't get to see it in action..you might want to try and contact them...
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Post by binarypunisher on Nov 19, 2006 14:56:07 GMT -5
Hellmutt has one.
Its definately smaller than the real one, but the material used to make it seems to be of relatively good quality.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 19, 2006 19:46:27 GMT -5
The charging handle is fixed on the kit. It is consideravly smaller the then the real MG43 which effects things visually as well as from the perspective of available space for your mod. The feed tray is also fixed and would have to be cut and hinged if you wanted it to be functional.
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Post by 101steasykid on Nov 19, 2006 20:02:55 GMT -5
well yeah, i would do minor modifications to it, but a cheap priced mg42, i mean it is smaller, but it works, right?
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Post by Doom on Nov 19, 2006 23:19:11 GMT -5
It is a bit shorter than a real MG42, but few people on the field will know that (at least where I play) as I am the only "retro" aka WW2 player in my group. It's big enough to not look silly and cheap & light enough to use as a primary weapon if it could be done. I am impressed with the quality. It's made of a shatter-proof Dupont high impact plastic. No moving parts and LIGHT. The thing weighs almost nothing. It can take a belt of ammo in the left side for display and be fitted with a bipod as well. If I could drop a decent AEG into it for 200 bucks, then I have an MG42 for 339.99. Not bad. will contact the guy mentioned (and pictured) and see what internals he put in his. Thanks for the tips!
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Post by Doom on Nov 19, 2006 23:39:13 GMT -5
Here is what "SMOKE" posted about the MG42 kit at the Black Company forum when asked about the conversion kit..."We put a TMAK- 47 Inside of the kit. If you would like more information, just email me". But you need to register on their site to view the address. I'll figure it out. They have several pics of their MG conversion on the field and there is an AK magazine sticking out of the bottom...which looks lame (of course). Don't get me started about the pic of a guy dressed like a Fallschirmjager firing an M16 (M4)! My brother-in-law is a technical genius with airsoft-related stuff. I think we can figure something better out. Like a side-feeding box mag....
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Post by Jager.DrĂ¼ on Nov 19, 2006 23:43:44 GMT -5
Or an AK drummag. MGs had side mounted 50round drums. You could do that with the AK drum mag or find an orginal drum.
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Post by nater on Nov 20, 2006 12:14:12 GMT -5
holy crap! i have to buy that kit! i have an uber-upgraded ak(full metal, 350+fps, tightbore). i also have 5 mags. ive heard that you can take the outer casing off a mag and put something else on for looks. maybe i could convert my 150 rd. mags to fit inside of ammo boxes. then i could put dummy 7.92 belts to make them look cool... the only thing that i would be dissapointed about is the size, it looks rather small compared to a real mg42. anyone have a length comparison?
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Post by 2ndranger on Nov 20, 2006 12:24:09 GMT -5
Hey does anyone have pics of past conversions.
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Post by Doom on Nov 20, 2006 13:41:34 GMT -5
www.black-company.com/600_DSC02334.jpg He has an AK drum magazine in this picture. Looks a little better than the 30 round AK mag I saw sticking out in other pics. You can see the size difference with this profile view. It's 2/3 shorter to fit the Ruger 22 barrel, but still a decent alternative to spending 1800 dollars for the Shoei version. It looks a lot smaller in the pic than when I hold mine (for all I know, the guy holding it could be 6'4"). I'll keep you posted on what we do as far as making an AEG out of this thing. I ordered mine from these guys www.cheekpieces.com/mg42-1022.html Apparently they make it and are the cheapest.
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Post by nater on Nov 20, 2006 16:10:33 GMT -5
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Post by Jager.DrĂ¼ on Nov 20, 2006 17:50:22 GMT -5
Or an AK drummag. MGs had side mounted 50round drums. You could do that with the AK drum mag or find an orginal drum. Already said that.
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Post by Gordak on Nov 23, 2006 11:46:47 GMT -5
just my opinion, I think it looks way too small, and there is no sense in spending all that money on something that looks wrong, save your pennies, just use a modern gun. There are people who spend years accumilating, ww2ish items and at the end they are like, wow I dont have a single good item, just piles and piles, hundreds of dollars of worthless items.
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Post by Nimlas on Nov 23, 2006 11:55:28 GMT -5
I agree with Gordak. Some how they managed to de-sexyfi an MG42. I think The Fuhrer would be angry.....
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Post by schmitty on Nov 23, 2006 14:10:17 GMT -5
I think Gordak already made this point very well but here is more evidence: The Ruger kit is a fun way to dress up a Ruger 10/22 and is actually a pretty accurate model but it is obviously much smaller and the detail is pretty plain. I bought the Ruger at an auction because it was real cheap. I think I paid $75 including a stainless ruger 10/22!! It's cool but considering all the effort needed to convert I would start with a real MG-42 parts kit. Schmitty
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 23, 2006 17:24:41 GMT -5
I guess I would have to say the fiberglass kit is a bigtime compromise and people need to know that going in. I still think it looks better then a modern M-16 with a WW2 impression but not by much. The pictures do a great job of emphasizing the differences you're looking at. With that said I couldn't care less what the Furher would think!
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Post by schmitty on Nov 24, 2006 11:49:38 GMT -5
2nd bat: Where did you find those MG-42's for $200? Seems like that would be a better choice for the budget minded customizer.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 24, 2006 16:06:44 GMT -5
Absolutely! Centerfire systems has a great deal on a Yugoslavian M-53 8mm which is a light machine gun very closely patterend after the MG-42 ($200.00 plus shipping) It includes the inverted cone muzzle hider, bi pod, pistol grip, wooden buttstock, ported barrel shroud, barrel all the removable parts from inside the receiver group, trunion and roller cam and feed tray cover. Obviously the scale would be right and all but the most minute details are the same. If I was going to go to the effort of rigging an AEG that's the housing I'd use for a budget MG. Incidently this outfit features alot of bargain items. www.centerfiresystems.com
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Post by Doom on Nov 24, 2006 17:21:20 GMT -5
That's a killer deal for 199.99. Where does one find a receiver to go with it?
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 24, 2006 20:12:24 GMT -5
I thought so too as I've seen them elsewhere but they were always over $700.00. The receiver housing could be manufactured out of angle bar I would think and would be the easiest component of the whole thing to build since you only need it to house your gearbox and BB feed set up.
Given what crew served weapons seem to sell for that's got to be a worthwhile project.
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Post by Russianboy on Nov 25, 2006 1:45:48 GMT -5
Why not just get the new MG42 by Shoei, I mean your going to put so much time into converting the gun makeing it look "like" a MG42 that in the same time you could have all ready made the money to buy a Shoei. and then when you are done makeing your converted MG42 its not going to look as good as a Shoei.
IDK, thats just make take on the subject.
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Post by schmitty on Nov 25, 2006 10:41:17 GMT -5
As you may or may not recall I made a custom MG-34 AEG. I also bought the rather expensive Ultima MG-42 AEG (based on a Shoei). Between the two, the Mg-34 cost me less than half as much as the MG-42 and it has been more reliable plus just looks and feels better (because it's the reaal thing made from a parts kit).
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 25, 2006 14:52:29 GMT -5
Not everyone has $1,200 to 1,500.00 knocking around to spend on an airsoft crew served weapon. Heck not everyone has the 500 to 600.00 in materials it would take to make one. Add to that the fact that even well made expensive custom guns are often dissapointing perfromers.
There is a certain amount of joy that comes from designing and building your own (provided you have the time, skills, tools and place to do it. ) The saving of $600 plus dollars is just one of the factors but let's face it, it's a big one. With this yugo base MG and a AEG gear box you have laying around the project would be under $500.00 in materials and labor that would frankly represent about a $1,000.00 value.
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Post by Doom on Nov 27, 2006 21:24:33 GMT -5
I just sold my MG42 kit on Ebay. I decided it wasn't worth the hassle (and the comparison pics you guys posted helped that decision). I got my money back at least. Thanks.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 27, 2006 23:40:06 GMT -5
For somewhat more money (probably pretty expensive shipping) the Yugo MG would be the way to go I would think. It's good that you able to recoup the expenditure before extending a bunch of effort.
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Post by nater on Dec 4, 2006 14:41:28 GMT -5
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 4, 2006 23:56:37 GMT -5
None of those parts include the receiver group and you're not going to find them for sale as ownership of a MG receiver group by any but the most stringent of gun dealer classifications is prohibited. All of the parts shown are included in the YUGO MG iteration which as you can see is almost identical to the german MG. Since they were priced at a mere $200.00 for the whole deal (minus receiever group and bolt mechanism) is why I thought it was such an exceptional deal.
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