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Post by reese on Aug 5, 2005 22:33:11 GMT -5
well its not really new but it is unseen. The movie directed by Samuel fuller (who served in the 1st ID) came out in 1980 and was original 163 minutes but after cutting it down for the public it was only 114 minutes. That almost 50 minutes of unseen film. I've ordered a copy from netflix and will post again once I've seen it.
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Post by CPL. Mills 2nd Rangers on Aug 6, 2005 0:07:05 GMT -5
Yea it is a great movie! Plus one of the greatest actors of all time is in it: Lee Marvin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by CPL. Mills 2nd Rangers on Aug 7, 2005 0:16:38 GMT -5
HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just watched the full 163 min version of Big Red One, and holy applesauce , its now my favorite WWII movie!! There are HOLE battles that were cut out! griff(Mark Hamel) isnt as big a coward as the short movie makes him out to be. The movie kind of follows Shroeder more, (the German who shot the guy that was bad mouthing Hitler's Himm) I will tell one part of the movie, Remember in Sicily when Sarg had all the flowers on his helmet?? And someone said, "the krauts are going to spot that garden a mile away" Well in the next scene as they are walkin, Shroeder spots him and says, "the American idiot is wearing flowers on his helmet." then opens up on them. then the platoon shoots back.
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Post by 507thpathfinder on Aug 20, 2005 10:20:59 GMT -5
yeah I can definately say there is a big difference between the two...explains why everyone in the movie hated the short version when it came out.
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Post by gunfreak on Aug 21, 2005 2:43:53 GMT -5
had never heard about it untill some weeks ago, and i love that movie, on the top 3 of my favorite ww2 movies to gether with longest day and bridge too far
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Post by schmitty on Sept 6, 2005 0:10:17 GMT -5
I tried to watch the extended version of the big red 1 but got bored with it before the end. For a movie made in the 80's it has more of a 50's style to it. I mean, Germans with post war Sherman tanks, sub machine guns with endless ammo supply but never need magazine changed, And some of the horrible death scene acting reminds me of any number of much older war movies. Guy runs and suddenly screams and jolts like he's being hit by multiple bullets but there is no blood or holes in his clothing then he suddenly falls completely silent. instantly dead. Ugh Schmitty
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Post by CPL. Mills 2nd Rangers on Sept 6, 2005 10:57:54 GMT -5
I'm sorry you didnt like the movie. I didnt have any problem with it. I like it cause you get a better insight to what the guys had to go through. thats what Sam Fuller tries to do in his war movies.
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Post by schmitty on Sept 6, 2005 12:07:06 GMT -5
You're right about Sam Fuller. "Big Red 1" wasn't without some merit, Maybe its budget just wasn't big enough to make a movie at the same level of detail as others from that period (A bridge to far, das boot). We can't all like the same thing. I loved "Enemy at the gates" but I know a lot of people hated it. I liked "The bunker" but others thing it is rubbish.
I recently watched "The pianist" and "Stalingrad" and would recommend both.
Schmitty
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Post by Craigk98 on Sept 13, 2005 23:23:53 GMT -5
I have the same feelings as schmitty allthough i think Lee Marvin is great in it, i just think some of the battle scenes dont live up to films like a Bridge to Far and The Longest Day. I never even watched the end but i will some time i guess it just looks dated compared to the more modern films and even some older films. The othete thing i just couldnt get over Mark hamil as a GI in WWII i kept thinking he was going to whip out his light sabre and chop some ones head of. Just my thoughts on the film and by all meams not every ones. ps shmitty The Bunker is a good low budget film didnt think you boyz would have seen it.
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Post by CPL. Mills 2nd Rangers on Sept 13, 2005 23:59:33 GMT -5
I saw bunker, it was ok
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Post by CharleyNovember on Sept 14, 2005 13:22:48 GMT -5
I think stitch nazis need to get a life sometimes.<---I don't remember what or who I was refering to with this comment but I aplogize to anyone I offended. That was a crappy statement to make. I honestly don't remember what that was all about.
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Post by Gordak on Oct 2, 2005 1:16:56 GMT -5
the simple fact is, when your getting into the ww2 hobby, Youve got to see the POS hollywood WW2 movies first. Before you know all the historical details that make them look like crap. then, later, you move on to more advanced films, like...
Cross of Iron (ammazing detail in this 1977 film) And they served (Arnhem survivors reenact the battle with all REAL ordinace) Desicion at Dawn (So full of original uniforms, gear, guns, tanks, it made me cry) Men against tanks (training film made during the war, but very dramatic, real russian tanks, REALLY getting blown up!)
These are 4 films so full of original gear, your eyes will pop out of your head and freind will find you passed out in a puddle of your own drool infront of the tv. They will be all you can watch without beating your head with the reomote when you graduate to "stitch nazi" level.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 29, 2005 22:44:51 GMT -5
Lee marvin was in fact a combat Marine in WW2 who was wounded while crawling. You can easily imagine where he was hit. He was evacuated off the island and said the feeling of abandonment of his buddies was his lifes greatest sorrow. He suffered what is currently called survivors guilt.
On the tonight show with Johnny Carson in the 70s he explained that his squad leader (a sgt named Keeshan) was the bravest man he ever saw and while he recieved awards for valor was never decorated enough to acknowledege the times he exposed himself openly to hostile fire while checking on his men or when he dragged Marvin from direct fire to save him.
Lee Marvin explained that while the Marine Corp never acknowledged his greatness, television did as they later promoted him to Captain. Sgt Bob Keeshan was in fact........Captain Kangeroo the kids show star from the 50s and 60s. And now you know the rest of the story. Just a little trivia for those who didn't know about Lee marvin or Kaptain Kangeroo!
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Post by CharleyNovember on Dec 29, 2005 23:04:20 GMT -5
Truth truly stranger than fiction...thats just bizzare ;D
Wanted to make sure you all saw this.
Again I aplogize for that rudeness...
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Post by Rainer Schmidt on Dec 30, 2005 13:33:44 GMT -5
I recently watched "The pianist" and "Stalingrad" and would recommend both. Schmitty Damn good movies the both of them. I say watch it for the storyline if nothing else. I was impressed with some of the detail though, like the use of the HBTs in Italy during the opening scenes. One thing that I love about these movies is Thomas Krestchmann. He is my hero. For those who don't know, he played the U-boat Captain in U571, a officer in Head in the clouds, a soldier in Stalingrad, and the officer at the end of the Pianist.
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Post by spitfire740 on Jan 1, 2006 17:16:06 GMT -5
I think Stalingrad is my favorite ww2 movie I have seen so far. Damn great film. I heard the creaters of Das Boot made Stalingrad, which makes sence considering both movies are in German. Pianist was a good movie too, but it seemed kind of like a great escape film. There wasn't much fighting. There where a few good spurs, but Stalingrad was like battle after battle to tank battle, to armaggeddon inside the ranks. I have yet to see El Alamein, which I hear is a fantastic movie, about the Italians in Afrika (In Italian but English subtitled) but I havent seen it yet.
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Post by Russian on Jan 1, 2006 18:09:12 GMT -5
I liked Downfall, I think it was an interesting view inside the Reich.
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Post by 5thrangerinfantry on Jan 19, 2006 17:49:07 GMT -5
Lee Marvin explained that while the Marine Corp never acknowledged his greatness, television did as they later promoted him to Captain. Sgt Bob Keeshan was in fact........Captain Kangeroo the kids show star from the 50s and 60s. And now you know the rest of the story. Just a little trivia for those who didn't know about Lee marvin or Kaptain Kangeroo! Captain Kangaroo never served in the military. To debunk another urban legend, neither did Mr. Rogers. ------I will correct myself, I found this on a thread from anohter forum..... "Lee Marvin did enlist in the U.S. Marines, saw action as Private First Class in the Pacific during World War II, and was wounded (in the buttocks) by fire which severed his sciatic nerve. However, his injury occurred during the battle for Saipan in June 1944, not the battle for Iwo Jima, which took place several months later in February 1945. Marvin also received a Purple Heart and was indeed interred at Arlington National Cemetery (but he was not, as some versions of this piece claim, awarded a Navy Cross). Bob Keeshan, later famous as television's "Captain Kangaroo," also enlisted in the U.S. Marines, but he did so too late to see any action during World War II. Keeshan was born on 27 June 1927 and enlisted two weeks before his 18th birthday, several months after the fighting at Iwo Jima. In a 1997 interview, Keeshan explained that he "enlisted in the U.S. Marines but saw no combat" because he signed up "just before we dropped the atom bomb." www.snopes.com/military/marvin.asp
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Post by Joe Mama on Jul 24, 2006 15:46:17 GMT -5
That is one of the best movies ever, poor guy got castrated by a mine
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Post by CPL. Mills 2nd Rangers on Jul 24, 2006 16:29:56 GMT -5
no he still has one left, thats why god gave us 2
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Post by 5thrangerinfantry on Jul 25, 2006 7:50:44 GMT -5
If I remember right, as its been a long time since I read the book, the book he doesnt lose a ball - some guy picked it up and threw it aside thinking it was a finger.......
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