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Post by sabrepilot9000 on May 17, 2006 15:51:16 GMT -5
Does anyone know how feasible it would be to put a Garand Model C or D scope mount onto a Marushin M1 Garand? For the M1D would it be possible to get just a mounting block for the scope mount since i dont think getting the sniper barrel with the block would really work well. I'm just not sure what kinds of modifications woud be necessary for it to work. As far as I know no one to date has done this to their airsoft M1 and I think itd be pretty cool, as well as unique, to have one out on the field. As usual I'd love to hear any input or advice you guys can give me. (Also, I'm looking to buy a used Marushin Garand, let me know if you have one your willing to sell) Thanks.
-David
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Post by 2nd Bat on May 17, 2006 20:22:51 GMT -5
I mounted an M1C looking scope, M1C mount and M1 Flash hider as well as a leather cheek pad on one of my garand AEGs. And created a replica M1C sniper variant. It looks great. (About 280.00 worth of parts without the scope) on top of the cost of the base gun, garand kit and incidentals. Anything is doable with time money and the desire.
It shoots very well and has a nice balance and overall feel. It also turns lots of heads. It shoots right at 400 FPS and is ribbon straight with a TN barrel and it's overall length.
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Post by sabrepilot9000 on May 17, 2006 23:01:57 GMT -5
WHat scope did you use? I havent seen anything that looked like an M84 but if this looks like it then SAWEEET. Also, can you post some pics of that gun if you've got any?
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Post by 2nd Bat on May 18, 2006 3:00:21 GMT -5
The only scope that I had that looked reasonably correct isn't much of a scope so it's really for looks primarily. I'll get some pictures posted. It's a cool looking replica.
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Post by CharleyNovember on May 18, 2006 14:21:20 GMT -5
I had read M1 C versions were released so late in WW2 they were really Korean war sniper guns and then replaced by m14's. Is that not correct?
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Post by sabrepilot9000 on May 18, 2006 14:43:54 GMT -5
Yeah thats about right. I know it wouldnt fit the time period for me to have a 101st impression with an M1C or M1D but its a unique setup i think. But yes, those models of the Garand were pretty much only used in Korea. Here's an article I read about them. www.jouster.com/articles30m1/Variations.htmlIt'll cst a whole lot of money to make a Garand into a C or D model though. LOL
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Post by 2nd Bat on May 18, 2006 18:34:21 GMT -5
To do it right would be about 700.00 in parts added to your base rifle. If you could find the parts. I saw an original minty cone flash suppressor which brought 196.00 on Ebay plus shipping. A cheek pad is typically only about $25.00. The two mount variations range from 162.00 for the later style to 285.00 for a mint early style mount. I haven't been able to find a proper scope and frankly don't even want to think about it. I managed to get an M37 flash suppressor for $36.00 and mounted that. It looks cool. I bought a cone flash suppressor for $86.00 thinking I stole it but waiting over a month before the guy finally shipped it to me . It was a total basket case and was quite loose when mounted. He was good enough to take it back.
At a quick glance my Korean war vintage M1D looks pretty good. Sniper anything in airsoft is really a joke anyway but it does achieve the look I was hoping for.
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Post by sabrepilot9000 on May 19, 2006 13:02:33 GMT -5
That sounds awesome man. I just found something of a real treat, at least I think. It's the same idea as the iron elite scope mount for my tanaka k98. A garand scope mount that mounts with no alteration to the gun whatsoever. www.scopemounts.com/m1garand.htmlThis looks pretty promising to me, although, its not the full look I'm trying to get. Nothing does it like the original stuff.
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Post by phantom12321 on May 20, 2006 22:57:02 GMT -5
I don't mean to go off subject but, do they make a sniper kit for an airsoft m-14? if not, what kind of modification would that require?
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Post by 2nd Bat on May 25, 2006 3:46:52 GMT -5
There are scope mounts for the airsoft M-14. (I have one in fact) It's quite different then the M1 Garand in that for the M-14 it can bend back over the receiver group and still allow the shells in a real steel to eject. In a garand the same would be true but since you load a clip from the top such a scope mount would get in the way. Hence the scope mounts for the Garand off set the scope to the side (Made for some tricky alignments!) One change that became neccessary was to offset the spot weld of the shooter. Hence the leather cheek pad that went on the stock.
There were two type of scope mounts for the garand during WW2 (very uncommon by the way) Both are quite expensive if you find one in decent shape. There is a replica made that is fairly affordable ($60.00)
There are also to different types of muzzle flash hiders. One is a horn that slides on and off attaching by use of the bayonet lug. The other is a screw on three pronged flash hider that uses the gas reservoir screw. The horn was the more common, was less effective but tends to be rediculously expensive to buy.
From an accuracy perspective for all intents and purposes a Garand M1C or D version is really a Korea Vietnam weapon. The Sprinfield 03 was the common sniper weapon of WW2 in the US military.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jun 8, 2006 15:30:12 GMT -5
Here is a replica M1C Garand sniper rifle. Probably more correct for Korea and Vietnam then WW2 where the Springfield 03 was the common issued sniper rifle for the Army and marine Corp. Note the muzzle cone, leather cheek pad which offset the spot weld of the shooter to align with the neccessary offset mount and scope since a Garand loaded from the top and needed an unobstructed passage. These items were produced during the war but I don't know if they actually saw use in WW2.
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Post by 29ththerealpimps on Jul 15, 2006 12:35:36 GMT -5
I found an m1d flash hider for 37.00
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jul 15, 2006 17:30:08 GMT -5
The D was more effective and used more widely in more reecent times. Hence it's more available. The cone type is less prevalent and generally more expensive if you can find one.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 1, 2007 22:16:00 GMT -5
I found some replica muzzle cones for the "D" type for $85.00 and bought a couple to fill requests for sniper Garand variants. Normally the actual dated part runs about $200.00 just for the flash hider and mount hardware. Their is a three pronged newer version that typically runs around 35 to 40.00 but it is absolutely Vietnam era.
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Post by fadedcorona on Nov 5, 2007 2:13:56 GMT -5
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 5, 2007 19:29:36 GMT -5
$650.00 is all it would cost to have the right scope set up on your Garand. Then add 200 for the cone muzzle flash and another $25.00 for the cheekpad. Fully upgraded top of the line converted AEG Garand is royughly a grand in all wood trim so gosh for under $2,000.00 you're in business!
Yikes!!!!
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Post by fadedcorona on Nov 8, 2007 2:20:27 GMT -5
It'd be nice though. Don't you need to tap the receiver too so you can screw on the scope mount? 2nd bat... I wish I had money (checked my bank accounts... not good) because I'd buy one of your Garands if I could afford it. ha ha. I just thought you'd be a better person after knowing that. ha ha.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 8, 2007 12:24:03 GMT -5
An actual M84 scope mount requires the services of a qualified gunsmith for an actual weapon. Obviously on a rifle designed to put a round accurately 900 yeards down range things have to be pretty precise. For an airsoft mount reasonable care and a decent eye is all it should take. After all we're talking about 200 Feet down range where wind and hop up will effect the flight more then the scope alignment being our airsoft reality.
In the case of the two M1Cs I've done I just used the scope mount for the M-14 which screws into place and aligns into the spot previously occupied by the speed load channel on the M-14. The hole and speed load channel are normally filled and grinded by me when I do the normal M-14 to M-1 conversions. Obviously the M-14 scope mount is not correct as it would interfere with the loading of and ejection of the Garand enblock clips.
But it was affordable, functional. solid and looked fairly decent. Surprisingly the cheek pad is still quite nice and doesn't upset the spot weld when firing.
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Post by bobbytherock on May 15, 2018 18:44:27 GMT -5
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Post by 2nd Bat on May 16, 2018 1:31:48 GMT -5
Very nicely done.
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Post by grifter on May 21, 2018 8:25:30 GMT -5
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