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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 10, 2007 21:23:25 GMT -5
I have finally completed all the sold orders. Every gun (except one) is done and being packaged for shipping and will go out tomorrow. One rifle headed out to Russia last week. Three rifles recently departed for Finland. A rifle for Reno and Minnesota are now done and gorgeous and will go out tomorrow even the order from Spain is nearly done and will for sure get their before Christmas.
I can now focus exclusively on other projects. The Garand business is closed until after the first of the year. I have some exciting things in the works.
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Post by m5a11943 on Dec 12, 2007 13:12:32 GMT -5
I hate it when I'm the new kid on the block. Can you all bear with me? Who do I go to to find out more about Garand kits? I'm a paratrooper without a unit in the midwest, I did this all before so I'm getting back into it. I have two Thompsons but want a Garand. I even have a para carbine! Sorry time to stop bragging. ALL THE WAY
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 12, 2007 14:52:52 GMT -5
I will reintroduce an improved version of my AEG Garand after the first of the year. (Proper lower stock in matching wood with all the enhancements gleened and added to the initial version. The esthetically correct lower stock will be a accessory option available to current Garand AEG owners. This fully functional, skirmishable AEG in all metal and all wood will be available in the $700.00 range.
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Post by m5a11943 on Dec 14, 2007 13:04:54 GMT -5
I would really appreciate it if someone would turn me on to where I can get the kit and what do I need to have first. What AS gun do I need first to add the kit too. Tanker Garands were never used until after the war.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 14, 2007 14:09:53 GMT -5
I will be selling a finished gun only. The base gun I use are Cyma or for additional cost the Marui.
If you plan to attempt your own conversion. The CYMA and to a somewhat lesser degree the AGMs have been outstanding values and I highly recommend them. I do not do a tanker version and have no plans to do a tanker version. Avoid the UTG, KART and Airsoft Club M-14 and the SOCOM shorty version is not long enough to accomodate the full upper handguard although it would probably be fine if you wanted to do a tanker Garand. Incidently Tankers were never GI issue either before the war or after.
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Post by YankeeDiv26 on Dec 14, 2007 14:45:46 GMT -5
I would really appreciate it if someone would turn me on to where I can get the kit and what do I need to have first. What AS gun do I need first to add the kit too. Tanker Garands were never used until after the war. It helps reading the thread to figure this all out. "tanker" garands were just a marketing scheme, never adopted by the military.
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Post by chadwick on Dec 14, 2007 17:48:18 GMT -5
Hey, I recieved my garand today and found a pretty big problem. The Magazine will not click into the well all the way. I believe it may be the feed nozzel is to large, but I dont want to go screwing around with that, Itried every thing I could think of to get it to work. It just wont fit. I know I am putting the magazine in correctly. The back will latch into place, but not the front. or visa versa, but never both of them.
It is not the magazine, as I have thried the short magazine that came with it, the Hi cap that came with it, several deepfires, and some KA ones.
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Post by YankeeDiv26 on Dec 14, 2007 17:56:37 GMT -5
Hey, I recieved my garand today and found a pretty big problem. The Magazine will not click into the well all the way. I believe it may be the feed nozzel is to large, but I dont want to go screwing around with that, Itried every thing I could think of to get it to work. It just wont fit. I know I am putting the magazine in correctly. The back will latch into place, but not the front. or visa versa, but never both of them. It is not the magazine, as I have thried the short magazine that came with it, the Hi cap that came with it, several deepfires, and some KA ones. Mine only clicks into place with the Tokyo Marui magazines. Mabye some filing on it would help?
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Post by chadwick on Dec 14, 2007 18:39:28 GMT -5
Hey, I recieved my garand today and found a pretty big problem. The Magazine will not click into the well all the way. I believe it may be the feed nozzel is to large, but I dont want to go screwing around with that, Itried every thing I could think of to get it to work. It just wont fit. I know I am putting the magazine in correctly. The back will latch into place, but not the front. or visa versa, but never both of them. It is not the magazine, as I have thried the short magazine that came with it, the Hi cap that came with it, several deepfires, and some KA ones. Mine only clicks into place with the Tokyo Marui magazines. Mabye some filing on it would help? realy? Mine is an AGM one.
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Post by chadwick on Dec 14, 2007 19:47:08 GMT -5
now the gun has stopped shooting all together. when ever I go to pull the trigger, nothing happens at all. I cant locate the fuze, does he remove them from the guns prior to making the garand?
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 14, 2007 23:56:46 GMT -5
First things first. If you haven't already done so read the manual.
The AGMs don't have a fuse. I remove them most of the time in the Marui and CYMA because they take up so much space in the butt stock and make it harder to fit and remove the battery. (It's hard enough as it is.)
I test the gun before I shipped the gun and of course it worked fine. I must admit I didn't test it with the specific magazines I stuck in the box. Note that they click into place by inserting the nozzle end first and then rotating the back into place. (The same motion as the AK) I slide the clip in until I hear the rush of BBs going into the nozzle) and then rotate it back until it clicks. Sometimes the mag catch needs to be filed down lightly but usually it's just fine. Check your battery to insure it's fully charged. Try the selector switch to insure it's fully in either semi or fully auto if it still doesn't work let me know.
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Post by m5a11943 on Dec 15, 2007 17:15:37 GMT -5
Hey guys I just saw where to get the Garand NICE!! I saw it at WGCshop and it looks great! My question is does it come with the all plastic stock and how good does it look up close and personal. Back in the WWII HRS they have a ten foot rule, if it looks good at ten feet then it's a go. This was designed that way because when it started out one had to use original stuff or make thier own. Todays replicas and reproductions have all but eliminated that rule. I think that getting this Garand and then going to an wooden stock later is the way to go, and it might be cheaper. Can somebody shorten winter up here by five months.
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Post by chadwick on Dec 15, 2007 21:47:22 GMT -5
First things first. If you haven't already done so read the manual. The AGMs don't have a fuse. I remove them most of the time in the Marui and CYMA because they take up so much space in the butt stock and make it harder to fit and remove the battery. (It's hard enough as it is.) I test the gun before I shipped the gun and of course it worked fine. I must admit I didn't test it with the specific magazines I stuck in the box. Note that they click into place by inserting the nozzle end first and then rotating the back into place. (The same motion as the AK) I slide the clip in until I hear the rush of BBs going into the nozzle) and then rotate it back until it clicks. Sometimes the mag catch needs to be filed down lightly but usually it's just fine. Check your battery to insure it's fully charged. Try the selector switch to insure it's fully in either semi or fully auto if it still doesn't work let me know. I got the gun itself working, but am still having problems with the magazines. the mag that came with the gun wont hold bbs at all. it appears that the bb stopper is broken. I have the mag filled with tape sitting over it to try to wear down the spring in hopes that that will fix the problem. when you say file the mag catch, what exactly do you mean? thanks
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 15, 2007 21:55:37 GMT -5
The Garand on WGC is the Gas Garand by Marushin which is an excellent replica but not a functionally consistent enough Airsoft weapon for most skirmishes Lots of discussions about it in other threads.
One issue on the most recent Garand AEGs that went out and commented to me in PM is problems with the bolt action. Sometimes when you cock it back all the way it gets stuck. (This of course on the AEGs has no functional purpoase but is cool to do) Here's what's happening (I suspect) On the last 15 rifles I built I created a new way to finish off the front of the now shortened stock and further reinforce the attachement between the lower stock and the hand guards. I use a modified bracket from the M-14 which has two holes. The upper hole is for the M-14 barrel and the lower accomodates the tube that extends from the charging handle to represent the gas tube on a real Garand/M-14. Sometimes whne pulled all the way back it recededs beyond the hole and gets hung up on the bracket unable to move forward. This is generally all hidden by the forward handguard. If you look in there you'll see what I mean. Jiggle the charging handle a bit and it will release and come forward just fine. If that's an issue for your rifle. (Most are just fine) Just be sure to cock the charging handle about 3/4 of the way back before releasing it for that nice statisfactory cachang sound. The bracket could be realigned but is held in place with four set screws that if relocated would probably weaken the contact.
I'll try to take pictures and add it to a immediate action drill page of tips for Garand AEG owners. I'm more concerned of course about the reports of no juice to the motor as reported by a few guys above. What's that all about?
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Post by Seff on Dec 16, 2007 13:39:03 GMT -5
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Post by YankeeDiv26 on Dec 16, 2007 14:21:52 GMT -5
I'll try to take pictures and add it to a immediate action drill page of tips for Garand AEG owners. I'm more concerned of course about the reports of no juice to the motor as reported by a few guys above. What's that all about? Oh, forgot to get back to you on that. In my case it was indeed faulty wiring, one of the ends that connects to the gearbox became undone, a little electric tape and wire fixing solved that all up in a few minutes. The wiring on it was corrected by you several months ago, and it ran/runs fine on my normal batteries. So no biggie, 5 minute fix. I'm glad it wasn't a real issue.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 16, 2007 16:06:17 GMT -5
Glad to hear that as well YD. Seff the offering from the Phillapines looks pretty good. I'm glad they extended the upper handguard (unlike their initial prototype which looked horrible) Too long for a tanker and not long enough for a regualr Garand) They still don't fill the butt plate flap which would be an easy thing for them to do and I wish they went ahead and gave the lower stock the fullness of an actual Garand since their including the lower stock anyway.
It looks certainly as good overall as my Garand and will probably come in much less expensively even with shipping from the Phillappines. The front gas reservoir assembly area is greatly improved from their first offering as well. It's all wood which is great. My impressionj (Not having actually seen one) is that they've done a good job. It's about time a company stepped and did so.
I wish they had taken care of the small details a little better since they were beautifully positioned to do so but if the price is right it'll present a great opportunity for us to see more Garand AEGs on the WW2 / Korean War/ Vietnam airsoft events.
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Post by spitfire740 on Dec 17, 2007 22:19:46 GMT -5
did you splice the wires together? It also may for some reason be the recent exposure to cold weather, as in my case. I wouldn't expect the cold to affect the AEG's, but you never know.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 18, 2007 0:55:45 GMT -5
Cold weather can have a debilitating effect on battery life but shouldn't effect an AEG unless it's extremeley cold. No doubt too cold to play in.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Feb 1, 2008 12:52:29 GMT -5
I continue to receive requests for either kits or finished guns and will take on each as supplies, availability and time allow. I build some for our local use and will from time to time have some available for sale. I recently built five for the Long Winter and have a couple left for instance right now. ($560.00 plus shipping) If I have the components for a do it yourself kit the cost is $300.00 plus shipping for production on your base gun. This includes all the components needed along with clear production instructions. The Garand components will come pre alterred for assembly and the kit will include customized adaptive brackets, stains and templates.
The current count of finished guns sold by me is 108 and 17 kits so I'm delighted to say I've helped get quite a few AEGs out there and I'm sure there are dozens of self done conversions that followed my concept which is awesome.
PM me to cehck on availability and time frame. I'll try always to have something available and set to go.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Feb 3, 2008 15:07:15 GMT -5
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Post by CharleyNovember on Feb 3, 2008 16:46:47 GMT -5
great looking group there John. Do you know if that is an Airsharp .30?
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Post by YankeeDiv26 on Feb 3, 2008 17:03:26 GMT -5
I believe it is, looks exactly like mine.
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Post by valtteri on Feb 4, 2008 12:56:27 GMT -5
Yeah, it's an Airsharp.
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Post by Dog on Feb 4, 2008 13:40:06 GMT -5
I think we should have a decent "family photo" taken during our next game in March. I counted there will be 13 Garands (Not all John's but most are).
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Post by 2nd Bat on Feb 4, 2008 15:52:03 GMT -5
Dog was my initial customer in Finland and subsequently led to many sales. I want to see a picture with 13 airsoft Garands in it! (Especially if most of them came from me!) You guys do such a great job and it's a great inspiration for WW2 airsofters throughout the world.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Feb 19, 2008 22:55:19 GMT -5
I had a customer send a series of photos highlighting his approach to securing the gas reservoir assembly to the M14 barrel. He drilled a hole through the bottom gas tube and tap threaded it so a screw from the bottom pressed against the lightly notched M14 outer barrel creating a solid connection. A smilar approach has been taken by others where they drill a small hole from the top through the small ring at the rear of the gas reservoir assembly and use a small screw that holds via a tiny indentation in the outer M14 barrel Other customers have simply epoxy glued the assembly into place which is simple and works great as well.
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Post by ukkolziasd on Feb 20, 2008 14:31:04 GMT -5
If there is enough tape to secure the front assembly, it will hold up just fine. But a screw through the gas tube brings a more secure feeling to it. After all, it only has to stop the parts from sliding forward, so the screw could be quite small and still work perfectly. I was lazy and put the screw through the ring at the top. A bigger one drilled through the bottom part would be much more secure, like that customer did it.
Epoxy would hold it allright, but disassembling the gun would be a nightmare, and it probably would require a hammer and there would be a risk of damaging the gun. Better be prepared to take it down too, you never know what might happen. After all, these are airsoft guns with quite delicate mechanisms.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Feb 21, 2008 2:42:17 GMT -5
I agree. Gluing it in place is NOT my recommended solution although you can still access your gear box and airsoft mechanicals just fine if you do. I have managed fine the friction tape rings and the assembly tapped into place. For added rigidity and strength I use a small drilled and taped screw through the top of the rear ring on the actual Garand gas reservoir assembly. I use the tiny hex screw removed form the gas assembly of the M-14 replica. (Some models have philips head screws.) A very small screw is all you need. I'll post pictures along with a tutorial on the current approach I use for securing the stock and barrel assembly. This could be a good retro-fit project for folks with some of the earliest conversions I did or folks who built the original kits. Easy to do and use parts taken off the M-14 and otherwise simply disposed of.
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Post by lindir on Feb 21, 2008 7:46:41 GMT -5
I'm the one that did the pictures with the screw to lock the front assembly, i didn't drill the barrel, only the gaz tube. I have "glued" a nut below the barrel with some special glue that transform in somekind of very solid ciment. We call it here cold welding. You can find it very easily in any shop.
With the nut hardly fixed below the barrel the screw can lock itself in without any problem. You can remove the screw at will witout risking to ruin anything.
My personnal pet peave about the Garand AEG is not related to this issue, it's about the stock assembly. When you put a sling and carry the gun with it you can see the garand opening in two pieces. Because nothing is locking the front lower stock to the rest of the gun. Making it very weak and I'm afraid to brake it. I don't know if i make myself clear about the issue. It's the first thing my fellow airsofters noticed when I showed the gun.
Also there is no barrel at the end of the gun to tighten the gaz tube front screw, so the gaz tube front screw, is unscrewing itself too easily.
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