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Post by Medic on Aug 8, 2008 16:10:37 GMT -5
Would anyone be willing to do a Russian (331st Rifles) in the East Coast. Just wondering. I am starting one.
-Nick
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Post by vanhalen213tx on Oct 19, 2008 16:09:09 GMT -5
Sounds interesting, would be a while before I could do it though. Maybe partizans would attract more peopl because it's an easier kit (cheaper too)
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Post by ottoss on Oct 19, 2008 20:29:01 GMT -5
Do you know any of the guys from the 9th guard. www.9thguardsrifles.com/Some of them are from NJ.So email them, and see if they would help u out. Because I know we will need someone to shoot at! Shane
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Post by mischief on Oct 19, 2008 21:42:35 GMT -5
I've got the start of a Russian kit. Those guys are a blank firing group tho, good info but not airsoft. Now if they(the airsoft weapon makers) would make cheaper Mosin's and such then there would be more Russians on the field.
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Post by ottoss on Oct 20, 2008 9:04:16 GMT -5
some of the guys from that unit are members of the 9tthss airsoft unit as well. And i hope too see a 9th gaurd airsoft unit soon.
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Post by Denali on Oct 20, 2008 10:50:37 GMT -5
I'm a reenactor with a NE blank-fire Russian reenacting group that has shown some interest in doing Airsoft events as well. We'd prolly have around 5 or 6 guys that would be willing to come over and try Airsoft.
We're all kitted out and have all the proper gear and unit heavy equipment (inc. a light mortar- not sure what would be needed to convert this to Airsoft?)
The only problem we've seen thus far is the aforementioned lack of suitable weapons and a lack of events. Heck, there are a lack of nearby events in blank-fire reenacting. Russian reenacting/Airsoft, being as cheap as it is, would pick up if we could get some events going up here. And with more events, would hopefully mean more players joining up...
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Post by vanhalen213tx on Oct 20, 2008 19:32:50 GMT -5
Like I said partisans are easy they can use captured weapons pieces of Red Army equipment Etc.
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Post by kilroy9thss on Oct 21, 2008 9:40:54 GMT -5
im just wondering how much are the air soft mosins??
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Post by Garrick Udet on Oct 21, 2008 10:15:01 GMT -5
Gryphon on this board makes a spring mosin conversion. www.airsoftbattlezone.com/sgscustomairsoft.html$295 Ersatzjack also made a VSR-10 based mosin conversion as well, he's not selling them on the open market, I'm just mentioning it because he's demonstrated it's possible. The upside for Russian is that the uniform is cheap. The downside is getting kitted out with an accurate airsoft weapon is expensive. My suggestion is if you already have a Thompson or an MP40, use it until you can afford one of Gryphon's PPSh-41s. It's not the perfect solution, but if you're doing Soviet, you have to have one. Those things are great.
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Post by kilroy9thss on Oct 21, 2008 12:55:25 GMT -5
well i guess thats a good price i mean i only spent $75 for my 91/30 and $65 for my m44 but i use those in my blank fire group 9th gaurds rifles.
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Post by Garrick Udet on Oct 21, 2008 13:07:28 GMT -5
Yeah, sadly the real steel versions of these guns are cheaper than their airsoft cousins. I was at Cabellas a few weeks ago to get a new shotgun and saw a Yugo made Mauser with a scope for $400. That's less than half of what I paid for my VSR-10 Mauser conversion. So if you don't mind using a real gun for parts, pick up a BAR-10 springer and build the conversion yourself. Personally I don't have the time or the talent to pull off a good job on one, so I leave it to more capable hands.
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Post by ottoss on Oct 21, 2008 19:45:27 GMT -5
if i was going to do red army. I would go with the PPSh-41 Shane
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Post by CharleyNovember on Oct 21, 2008 19:55:12 GMT -5
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Post by kilroy9thss on Oct 21, 2008 21:04:55 GMT -5
thats alittle much but they do look good
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Post by Denali on Oct 31, 2008 9:36:49 GMT -5
Like I said partisans are easy they can use captured weapons pieces of Red Army equipment Etc. While this is true, I think it would be a boon to the hobby to try and get away from the "partisans" aspect of Airsoft reenacting and get the participants in actual uniform. I know this could turn into a particularly sticky point, but Russian reenacting/Airsoft benefits from having extremely cheap uniforms and a minimal gear requirement. It barely seems like there is a need for partisans at Eastern Front events. The only thing that would be required for a suitable impression would be tunic and trousers, boots, cap, belt, ammo pouch, and canteen. Post-war uniforms alone are on eBay constantly for prices in the $50-75 range. A wide range of military-style and civilian-style boots are perfectly acceptable, and a belt and canteen will cost you no more than $20 for both. Add another $15 for the pilotka (sidecap) and you are looking at a simple impression that costs less than many peoples' Airsoft weapons alone. Having a complete Russian uniform and basic kit would run you in the $120 range (plus or minus some). And of course, you could expand that impression for as long as your funds hold out. Partisan forces seem to be over-represented at events. I know alot of this stems from people not having the money to throw down for a kit, but with Russian reenacting, there's not much in the way of what you need to buy. Just my zwei pfennig.
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Post by Lev on Oct 31, 2008 14:58:31 GMT -5
The $120 Russian impression is a bit of a myth. I set out to put together a very basic Russian impression and $500 dollars later it's complete. Add to that my $600 custom made PPSh and well, you get my point. $120 gets you a low grade impression, but if you get a quality tunic/pants from a place like Trident, it ends up being a bit more. The weapons are what really cost you doing Russian. There are virtually no cheap airsoft weapons out there and you'll have to go custom if you want a Russian weapon. Hence, the partisan impression still lives on.
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Post by vanhalen213tx on Oct 31, 2008 16:20:13 GMT -5
The $120 Russian impression is a bit of a myth. I set out to put together a very basic Russian impression and $500 dollars later it's complete. Add to that my $600 custom made PPSh and well, you get my point. $120 gets you a low grade impression, but if you get a quality tunic/pants from a place like Trident, it ends up being a bit more. The weapons are what really cost you doing Russian. There are virtually no cheap airsoft weapons out there and you'll have to go custom if you want a Russian weapon. Hence, the partisan impression still lives on. Exactly my point but another thing is more likely people would join because it's a cheaper kit. And a great way to start ww2 airsoft.
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Post by gryphon on Oct 31, 2008 18:53:00 GMT -5
If you can't swing one of CN's Mosin-Nagant springers or one of my PPSh41 AEGs; buy either an AGM M14, a CYMA M14 or a reasonably-priced bolt-action springer like a VSR-11 or BAR-10 and start saving up to convert it into something more period. The PPSh, the SVT-40, and the DP all use the M14's Version 7 gearbox. If all goes well I should have a relatively inexpensive SVT-40 conversion kit for the M14 AEG online sometime in 2009, while the Mosin-Nagant conversion is probably the least expensive WW2-era conversion in existence if you do the work yourself.
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Post by Medic on Oct 31, 2008 19:36:59 GMT -5
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Post by gryphon on Nov 3, 2008 23:23:52 GMT -5
I make those. Look for the "$20 Mosin Nagant" thread in the Technical section of this forum to see exactly how they are made. They're somewhat good for CQB, but not much else - see the "PumPeDeh" thread in the Technical section for a MUCH better conversion for an inexpensive pump shottie (I have a very slightly used Pumpedeh in stock you can have for $100 plus shipping if you're interested.) Performance-wise, Charley November's Mosin-Nagants or my PPSh-41 AEGs are far superior, but with caution and teamwork a Soviet player can hold his own with a Pumpedeh (I have.)
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Post by Medic on Nov 7, 2008 0:34:58 GMT -5
Dude! Sick! I will buy one. Does it come assembled? I have the Technical Skills of a wet dish towel.
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Post by gryphon on Nov 9, 2008 22:46:15 GMT -5
Yes, they come fully assembled.
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Post by Denali on Nov 12, 2008 14:05:33 GMT -5
The $120 Russian impression is a bit of a myth. Not quite. I admit, though, that $120 was a little off. More around $140-150 once shipping is factored in. ;D For those looking for an out-of-the-box impression, Front of Russia's uniforms are very accurate. Their M43 basic uniform package (Item 4A, Cost: $100-$120) will get you your basic kit (URL: www.frontofrussia.com/army.html); all you'd need is an ammo pouch, boots and weapon. I know there's some hesitance to order from him as his payment methods are a little odd, but he is 100% reliable and has been used hundreds, if not thousands of times by reenactors with great success. Just be very clear on the sizes you are ordering! His customer service is impeccable as well. For those who can't afford one of the custom-made Russian weapons but already having some experience Airsofting, they may already have a suitable weapon that will "get them by" (Basically, an MP-40, K98 or other "captured" German weapon). Boots are a cinch if they can't get Russian-style boots right away; extensive photographic evidence shows heavy use was made of captured German lowboots and jackboots. Also, US-made service boots (This style: atthefront.com/us_boots_roughout.htm) are perfect for use in a Russian impression as the US sent no less than 13,470,936 pairs of lowboots and nearly another 1,000,000 pairs of EM boots to Russia via Lend-Lease. This is certainly an impression that can be done very well for far less than any other. Furthermore, once the basic kit is done, you can continue to build it up and add to it for as long as your funds hold out. All in all, it's a cheap and rewarding impression. And the Germans will certainly thank you for giving them plenty of targets to shoot at as you perform dozens of "Urrah!" charges across fields and frozen steppes. ;D
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Post by Denali on Nov 12, 2008 14:46:05 GMT -5
Just to clarify: I'm not trying to play know-it-all here or trying to "boss" anyone around, enforce my ideas as law, etc.
Having been doing WWII reenacting for many years, many of them as a Russian, I just want to see Airsoft succeed. I'm just trying to bring my experiences, both good and bad, over to the Airsoft world to help it do so.
Cheers!
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Post by blitz on Nov 15, 2008 16:18:38 GMT -5
Are there any post war solutions that may be cheaper for the impression? I would kill to do an Eastern Front movie!
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Post by zegermanheer on Aug 16, 2016 20:18:18 GMT -5
Sooo do we have a Northeast Russian unit or no?
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Post by Mr. Spank on Dec 4, 2019 16:45:39 GMT -5
Wow, this thread started out very a decade ago, and my how much has changed.
I'm out of NY and have a full 43 kit.
There are now a number of crappy options for Mosin 91/30 airsoft rifles as springers and gas. Also decent PPSh-41s. And Viva arms is set to release Maxim machine guns!
Getting Russian kit isn't exactly cheap, but it has certainly gotten easier to look right instead of "good enough" as we have more sources for repros and legit kit. We are very lucky to have the official distributor for Shuster to be located in NJ!
There is at least one more comrade with Red Army kit in NY. There are reenactors out of the PA-NJ area that also play airsoft.
We just need to get out and play together so organizers see there is a market for hosting an East Front event.
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Post by volkssturm on Dec 19, 2019 12:44:22 GMT -5
When I first saw the title of this thread my immediate thought was "There's airsofters in Vladivostok"? But I'm still on my first cup of coffee.
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Post by Mr. Spank on Dec 27, 2019 12:26:59 GMT -5
I'm sure there is a strikeball team there!
But it would be nice to get at least a group of Red Army themed airsoft players in the US North East. Not a strict team in the way the reenactors in this area are. But at least have an association of airsoft players that are looking to participate in their Red Army kits among like minded 6mm BB slingers.
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Post by warpath890 on Mar 1, 2022 14:35:12 GMT -5
I know this is an old post, but me, my wife, and my son have basic Russian impressions. We’re looking to start/join a Russian unit. We’re from Connecticut.
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