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Post by JazzyJ on Oct 8, 2008 0:35:34 GMT -5
Hey guys! Looking into getting a new set of glasses because, I don't like the ones I have now. Am looking for a pair that fits the face really well but doesn't take away from what you are wearing. So, something rather invisible like clear lenses and clear frames if possible. Wanted to ask around and get other peoples opinions on the subject. I would rather not wear black framed or colored frame shooting glasses because it takes away from ones impression. (in my opinion at least)
Thanks in advance -Justin
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Post by JazzyJ on Oct 10, 2008 11:02:31 GMT -5
Did some more hunting around on the site and found a bit of info but nothing really helpful unfortunantly. Am looking for Makes and models here if anyone cares to chime in with what they use, where they purchased, and price would be much appreciated!
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Post by CharleyNovember on Oct 10, 2008 11:06:16 GMT -5
pm Gordak he sells some that should fit your needs.
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Post by Ripper on Oct 13, 2008 17:06:24 GMT -5
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Post by burke on Oct 13, 2008 18:48:21 GMT -5
Very nice, cool loadouts too, are the glasses "full seal"?
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Post by Ripper on Oct 13, 2008 21:55:09 GMT -5
They are if you pull the strap tight. The black border is a ventilated foam seal that is glued to the edge of the lenses.
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Post by JazzyJ on Oct 14, 2008 17:41:32 GMT -5
Any problems with foging up?
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Post by Rusty Shackelford on Oct 14, 2008 18:15:00 GMT -5
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Post by CharleyNovember on Oct 14, 2008 18:21:58 GMT -5
Those absolutely will not stop a BB. You will need full seal goggles at Athens by the way man. Insurance regs are starting to tighten up on field owners. I don't know of any commercial fields with insurance in the southeast that allow shooting glasses any more.
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Post by JazzyJ on Oct 15, 2008 10:50:11 GMT -5
The goggles that Ripper has are exactly what I'm looking for with the exception of the black frames. Do they make clear frames for these as well?
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Post by Ripper on Oct 15, 2008 11:31:34 GMT -5
Those aren't frames. That is the foam that provides the actual seal around your eyes. Other than unframed shooting glasses which are unsafe at best and not allowed at any insured field, you won't find anything that isn't going to show. The simple fact that non-military goggles are meant for industrial use and not for combat means that we have few alternatives to traditional, clunky looking military goggles. All manufacturers go out of their way to state that their goggles are not to be used in any type of combat action game just to cover their asses. Even though their product meets or often exceeds the military specs for velocity and impact protection, they can't risk being dragged into court by some jackass that misused their goggles.
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Post by JazzyJ on Oct 17, 2008 1:37:38 GMT -5
I have been doing a lot of searching and I must say that Ripper's goggles are by far some of the best looking and cheapest too! The rating they give these goggles I'm assuming surpass the needs of an airsofter? I've read it a million times but can never remember what rating I should be looking for. Thank you guys for the help! Love the German impression by the way Ripper!
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Post by Ripper on Oct 17, 2008 7:50:06 GMT -5
ANSI.Z87.1 annex 2003 is the standard that all safety goggles must meet or exceed to be considered 'ballistic' rated. It specifies the thinkness of the plastc lenses as well as the impact rating. The goggles are rated by testing them with a 1/4 steel ball bearing moving at 250 FPS. That greatly exceeds the impact energy of anything you will ever be hit with in an airsoft game. Here is the actual testing requirements. This will help you understand what the ratings are actually about. "ANSI Z87.1-2003 The new standard is a voluntary standard and there is no requirement that manufacturer or end user comply with it unless it is mandated by the United States Department of Labor – OSHA. However, in the past, most manufacturers have chosen to comply with revisions to the Z87.1 Standard. Currently, OSHA requires (29 CFR 1910.133) that eye protectors comply with the 1989 version of the Z87.1 Standard, and eye protection devices now in use may continue to be used. 1. Two Levels of Protection: Basic and High LENSES: The new standard designates that lenses will be divided into two protection levels, Basic Impact and High Impact as dictated by test criteria. Basic Impact lenses must pass the “drop ball” test, a 1" diameter steel ball is dropped on the lens from 50 inches. High Impact lenses must pass “high velocity” testing where 1/4" steel balls are “shot” at different velocities. Spectacles: 150 ft./sec. Goggles: 250 ft./sec. Faceshields: 300 ft./sec. FRAMES: Now, all eyewear/goggle frames, faceshields or crowns must comply with the High Impact requirement. (This revision helps eliminate the use of “test lenses”, and assures all protectors are tested as complete - lenses in frame - devices). After making an eye hazard assessment, employers (safety personnel) should decide on appropriate eyewear to be worn, although High Impact would always be recommended. All of our spectacles are High Impact protectors. 2. Now, Products Must Indicate Impact Protection Level. To identify a device’s level of impact protection, the following marking requirements apply to all new production spectacles, goggles and faceshields. Basic Impact spectacle lenses will have the manufacturer’s mark, i.e. an AOSafety product will have “AOS” and a Pyramex product will have a "P" etc. Goggles and faceshields will have AOS and Z87 (AOS Z87). High Impact spectacle lenses will also have a plus + sign, (AOS+) or "P+" etc. All goggle lenses and faceshield windows are to be marked with the manufacturer's mark, Z87, and a + sign (AOSZ87+). Note: Lenses/windows may have additional markings. Shaded lens may have markings denoting a shade number such as 3.0, 5.0 etc. Special purpose lenses may be marked with “S”. A variable tint lens may have a “V” marking. 3. Sideshield Coverage Area Increased Sideshield coverage, as part of the lens, part of the spectacle, or as an individual component, has been increased rearward by 10-millimeters via a revised impact test procedure. While side protection in the form of wraparound lens, integral or attached component sideshield devices is not mandated in this standard, it is highly recommended. Further, OSHA does require lateral protection on eye protection devices wherever a flying particle hazard may exist, and flying particle hazards are virtually always present in any occupational environment. All of our non-prescription safety spectacles meet the requirements of OSHA and the new Z87.1 for side protection. 4. No Minimum Lens Thickness Requirement For High Impact Lenses. The new standard does not have a “minimum lens thickness” requirement for High Impact spectacle lenses. The previous standard required a 2-millimeter “minimum”. However, the protective advantages of wrap-around lenses and the many other advancements in eyewear design have eliminated this need. Note: Glass lenses still fall into the Basic Impact lens category. The “minimum lens thickness” of 3 millimeters remains in effect for this category.
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Post by JazzyJ on Oct 17, 2008 10:56:09 GMT -5
Very informative!....Thanks Ripper
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Post by elder90 on Oct 17, 2008 11:43:11 GMT -5
does anyone have a pare that will work with glasses i hate having glasses
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Post by CharleyNovember on Oct 17, 2008 11:45:11 GMT -5
SWD goggles with a balistic lens work for me in that instance I have glasses as well.
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Post by sir veilance on Oct 17, 2008 17:03:12 GMT -5
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Post by elder90 on Oct 17, 2008 17:25:42 GMT -5
thank you that will help maybe now i can see ;D
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Post by Young Blood on Oct 27, 2008 16:44:59 GMT -5
..hey ripper, where do I find goggles like that..?? -Eddie
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Post by Ripper on Oct 28, 2008 22:33:37 GMT -5
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Post by Young Blood on Oct 29, 2008 13:14:55 GMT -5
..thx for the link, these things are cheap and yet quality, cheers.. -Eddie
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Post by Ripper on Oct 29, 2008 13:48:39 GMT -5
Thats the cool thing about using civilian/industrial quality products. They are made to specifications that are meant to not only shield the user from injury but also his/her employer from liability. ;D ;D
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Post by Young Blood on Oct 29, 2008 15:00:52 GMT -5
..I was also going to ask, how are they as far as fogging up when you're in battle cuz the one I got right now fog up really fast when im running or in a battle.. -Eddie
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Post by Ripper on Oct 29, 2008 16:58:49 GMT -5
All goggles will fog if the weather conditions are right. Thats just a sad fact of life. Other than airsofters, nobody wears goggles all day without some kind of break. These seem to fog far less than anything I've used in the last 6 years. Before I play, I apply a thin coat of dawn dishsoap to the inside of my lenses and then buff it off with a lens cloth. I will get some minor condensation at the bottom of the lenses, but not the fogging that I get with ESS and Bolle style goggles.
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Post by Young Blood on Oct 29, 2008 18:12:46 GMT -5
..sounds like a damn good solution to the whole fogging thing, I really gotta try the dawn dhish soap before I play, especially with these goggles.. thx & cheers ripper..!! -Eddie
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Post by JazzyJ on Oct 30, 2008 11:29:56 GMT -5
So I just ordered a set of Ripper's goggles. Should be here in a few days. I'll let everyone know how they work out. Thanks for the link Ripper. I can't wait!!! *too bad the shipping is more that the goggles LOL!!!*
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Post by JazzyJ on Nov 6, 2008 11:58:45 GMT -5
Okay, so I got the goggles last night. I must say they are much better in your hands than they are in pictures on the internet. The internet makes them look flimsy or cheap but, to the contrary! They are quiet solid yet still light weight. They fit my face snug, they are not hot, and they have an excellent field of view. You really can wear them long enough and forget you're even wearing them!!! Since they have the high impact rating, I now feel very safe in these espcially coming from using shooting glasses which I had always been a bit weary of. Thank you Ripper for suggesting these things. Worth ever penny. For about $15 shipped, these things are a steal!
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Post by Young Blood on Nov 6, 2008 20:35:14 GMT -5
Okay, so I got the goggles last night. I must say they are much better in your hands than they are in pictures on the internet. The internet makes them look flimsy or cheap but, to the contrary! They are quiet solid yet still light weight. They fit my face snug, they are not hot, and they have an excellent field of view. You really can wear them long enough and forget you're even wearing them!!! Since they have the high impact rating, I now feel very safe in these espcially coming from using shooting glasses which I had always been a bit weary of. Thank you Ripper for suggesting these things. Worth ever penny. For about $15 shipped, these things are a steal! fogging, any experiment yet..?? -Eddie
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Post by JazzyJ on Nov 11, 2008 14:17:32 GMT -5
Trying them out this Sunday. Will let you know!
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