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Post by specimenhex on Apr 5, 2010 12:41:58 GMT -5
You're right it did start around that time, everyone was glued to the news networks not HBO.
I liked the 4th episode alot, showed quite well the physical and mental toll it took on those men, but no matter how well we think the show details such things we will never truly know or understand the reality of it and thankfully so.
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Post by kalbs on Apr 5, 2010 21:00:06 GMT -5
Good episode. Not much on training but the mental stress (PTSD ) is covered in detail, something we should all be aware these days.
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Post by 5thrangerbat on Apr 7, 2010 16:44:48 GMT -5
It was an ok episode. although, i was disapointed on not showing any training :/
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Post by Fusilier on Apr 7, 2010 17:03:41 GMT -5
Why is everybody hung up on not showing their training?? Does everyone want a copy of BoB? The only reason BoB showed their training was because of Toccoa and Currahee Mtn,and what they went through with Capt. Sobol. If Sobol wasn't involved it would've been any old Army training. Marine training wasn't THAT extreme or whatnot. Unless one of these guys books spent a lot of time talking about their basic,then theres no reason to show it,just to show it.
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Post by kalbs on Apr 7, 2010 18:11:02 GMT -5
Why is everybody hung up on not showing their training?? Does everyone want a copy of BoB? The only reason BoB showed their training was because of Toccoa and Currahee Mtn,and what they went through with Capt. Sobol. If Sobol wasn't involved it would've been any old Army training. Marine training wasn't THAT extreme or whatnot. Unless one of these guys books spent a lot of time talking about their basic,then theres no reason to show it,just to show it. It's no so much the training as an explanantion of the gap between what makes them a Marine, a young man to a Combat soldier. One minute he's at home saying good bye, the next he's in the Jungle killing Japanese. It's this disconnect in the story that has me a bit perplexed. Something is missing
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Post by Fusilier on Apr 7, 2010 18:32:12 GMT -5
Why is everybody hung up on not showing their training?? Does everyone want a copy of BoB? The only reason BoB showed their training was because of Toccoa and Currahee Mtn,and what they went through with Capt. Sobol. If Sobol wasn't involved it would've been any old Army training. Marine training wasn't THAT extreme or whatnot. Unless one of these guys books spent a lot of time talking about their basic,then theres no reason to show it,just to show it. It's no so much the training as an explanantion of the gap between what makes them a Marine, a young man to a Combat soldier. One minute he's at home saying good bye, the next he's in the Jungle killing Japanese. It's this disconnect in the story that has me a bit perplexed. Something is missing >> Not too many War movies,old and new ever show basic training.None of the classics did. Saving Private Ryan, The Longest Day, A Bridge too Far. I think we all know how they became soldiers,some of us more than others. I really don't think it needs to be shown if it doesn't impact the storyline any.
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Post by kalbs on Apr 7, 2010 20:53:35 GMT -5
If we always agreed on things life would be boring ;-)
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Post by bizcuits on Apr 8, 2010 2:11:58 GMT -5
Why is everybody hung up on not showing their training?? Does everyone want a copy of BoB? The only reason BoB showed their training was because of Toccoa and Currahee Mtn,and what they went through with Capt. Sobol. If Sobol wasn't involved it would've been any old Army training. Marine training wasn't THAT extreme or whatnot. Unless one of these guys books spent a lot of time talking about their basic,then theres no reason to show it,just to show it. Now I haven't seen the show yet, but I do know one of the books it is based on is With the Old Breed. Which does high light a lot of Sledges progression into becoming a Marine. He actually started out with a commission to become a Marine Officer, but turned in his commission after the first semester and went Enlisted as did many others, so they could get into the fight. A lot of them felt like if they waited to become Officers they'd miss the war. Something he mentions regreting several times later in the book. He also talks a lot about his Corporal who trained them in boot camp. I am actually surprised to hear that they didn't include Sledges training or at least his commission to enlisted story. It's just like BOB though, there was a lot of cool stuff in the book that never made it to the movie.
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Post by Adler69 on Apr 8, 2010 2:19:35 GMT -5
They used 3 books to come up with the story line for The Pacific , there is just to much stuff in those books to cram into a 10 hour series . Reading the books you get a much better feel for what they went through during the war and the series just helps in a way to introduce more people to what the war was like on the PTO , hopefully more people will want to know more about it and get the books.
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Post by hairy apple on Apr 11, 2010 19:30:04 GMT -5
Soon... very soon....
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Post by mccallion on Apr 11, 2010 21:30:03 GMT -5
well the 5th episode was very good i enjoyed it alot especally the invasion scenes
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Post by hairy apple on Apr 11, 2010 22:23:29 GMT -5
Agreed. I'm glad we finally got some day time combat scenes. THe nighttime stuff was cool and really effective for getting across the idea of how scary it was, but it lacked some of the brutality and gore that makes the combat scence so effective. I am really enjoying the show so far, they have done a great job with it so far.
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Post by Fusilier on Apr 11, 2010 23:28:41 GMT -5
Looked like SPR, Pacific. Very intense! Loved the Jap tanks.
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Post by Adler69 on Apr 12, 2010 2:30:55 GMT -5
The episode was good , the Japanese tanks coming across the runway was a good scene , i also liked the Woodpecker on the rooftop building , they got the sound of it just about right , not 100% perfect but close enough , the Alligator getting hit by the arty was a little cheesy , you could tell it was a CGI one , but that's ok. The Gunny going after the Lt. for the range safety violation was a good scene.
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Post by KillJoy on Apr 12, 2010 18:17:22 GMT -5
The helmets for this series were supplied by Jmurray. I guess people wanted to know and asked every single GI helmet seller. There's not much about them talking about it but here's the link: www.jmurrayinc1944.com/www/feature.htm. I thought this was intersesting because some people said in the first episode had swivel bale helmets.
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Post by mccallion on Apr 12, 2010 18:59:08 GMT -5
i know for a fact that i did see a swivel bail helmet last night but from many scenes i always see fixed bale helmets except for one guy on Guadalcanal
you see the liners in the episode there are some early hawlieville liners and some high presser liners so that is alot better than having the Vietnam war liners
the swivel bail helmets are okay for where the series is now at pelelu they started to manufacture them in Nov 43
also your link is broken
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Post by KillJoy on Apr 12, 2010 19:08:25 GMT -5
Thanks for letting me know, and if you want to still read about it, just go onto jmurrayinc1944.com and click on news and new links.
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Post by Adler69 on Apr 12, 2010 19:29:51 GMT -5
OK all you little stitch counters , anyone notice anything about their gear besides the helmets?
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Post by KillJoy on Apr 12, 2010 19:35:04 GMT -5
OK all you little stitch counters , anyone notice anything about their gear besides the helmets? Nope, I don't know everything about uniforms because there is so many types. So Adler, whats wrong with the uniforms?
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Post by Adler69 on Apr 12, 2010 19:37:09 GMT -5
Nothing wrong with their uniforms. Someone needs to tell me what they saw on the episode. On both sides by the way
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Post by Adler69 on Apr 12, 2010 20:52:56 GMT -5
So many stitch counters , so few answers.
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Post by hairy apple on Apr 13, 2010 18:09:02 GMT -5
I'm not an expert on USMC stuff by any means, but I think everything looks great. I haven't seen anything (other then I guess the a3 springfields) that looks out of place.
So far I am really enjoying the show. The last one was really great, the Jap tanks were awesome to see... you don't hear much about Japanese tanks... more then likely becuase they are not a whole lot better then WW1 tanks.
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Post by deacon on Apr 13, 2010 22:43:01 GMT -5
I thought the helmet covers with foliage slits didn't come out till around Iwo. I may be wrong. Also the helmet cover in episode 1 that Leckie has on in the rain. It must be a mosquito net, but still shouldn't have had one. I like Snafu's "sandals" in episode 5 though.
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Post by hairy apple on Apr 13, 2010 23:15:50 GMT -5
Funny, my girlfriend went to Borders today to get a NY times for a school paper, and I went to go see if there were any WW2 books I felt like buying today... almost the entire section had been taken over by PTO, and USMC books.
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Post by Adler69 on Apr 13, 2010 23:29:53 GMT -5
Lot's of custom made Camo items on episode 5 , the Overseas hat , Leckie's Camo Duffel , the camo shorts. The Japanese Type 95 Ha-Go Light Tanks at the airfield looked goofy as hell.
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Post by deacon on Apr 14, 2010 2:35:36 GMT -5
I want those camo shorts, those are pretty badass.
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Post by kalbs on Apr 14, 2010 7:12:52 GMT -5
Maybe a faux pa or not but I noticed that most of the dog tags worn have some black silencers on them. I've never seen this. Also, although common it appears most those using the carbine have Army carbine pouches on the butt stocks.
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Post by Fusilier on Apr 14, 2010 8:01:23 GMT -5
Maybe a faux pa or not but I noticed that most of the dog tags worn have some black silencers on them. I've never seen this. Also, although common it appears most those using the carbine have Army carbine pouches on the butt stocks. >> I noticed the silencers as well. They are period correct for Army,IDK about USMC.
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Post by springfieldarmory on Apr 14, 2010 19:08:48 GMT -5
I was reading that some people cut up gas mask tubes and used them as silencers.
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Post by deacon on Apr 14, 2010 20:49:36 GMT -5
The carbine pouches are fine, the USMC got a lot of army gear along with their USMC gear. And Springfield armory is right, some guys, and most I might add used friction tape to "silence" their dog tags.
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