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Post by panzer IB on Jul 21, 2008 14:25:54 GMT -5
You forgot about the motar getting taken out in the village but otherwise its perfect ;D
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Post by Medic on Jul 21, 2008 14:58:23 GMT -5
I still can't believe the raffle, my number was 1 number away from the Colt! Oh well. I had a lot of fun. Especially with the .30 cal, I loved firing that.
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Post by Garrick Udet on Jul 21, 2008 15:28:43 GMT -5
As promised earlier, here's my AAR: Camping:I don't think it could be said enough how great the German camp was. I was too busy cooking Brats for dinner and readying my gear for combat to participate in the 'visit/raid' of the allied camp, but the pictures of their camp look great as well. Kudos to everybody who pitched in to make the immersion as real as possible. I guess the only possible thing we could have done to make it total would have been to make everybody sleep in their wet tent after the thunderstorm rolled through. Knowing that I had a long drive following what was sure to be a grueling battle I elected to sleep in the car where I was able to demonstrate my methane processing abilities to Alban who was greatly impressed/disgusted. Although it must be said that he knew exactly what he was getting into. Once again I'll echo the praise of the LI crew for getting all the little things right (the chairs, the music, the food, the pipes, etc). These guys have a fantastic attention to detail, anybody on this board with a German impression that wants to take their efforts at immersion to the next level would do well to emulate these guys. Hopefully they can make it to the Midwest for one of our Ostfront events! They will most certainly be welcomed with open arms! The BattleFollowing the safety and game briefing, we returned to the German camp to gear up for the battle ahead. While I was slightly bummed that the 3rd Panzergrenadiers were assigned to defend the forest rather than man the wonderful defensive emplacements in the village, I knew that our experience fighting in dense forest in our previous campaigns would only play to our advantage. It was the extent of our success in this battle that truly surprised me. Part of this may have been due to our battle plan and our commander's expectations that the forest would be the first objective to fall due to the lack of any prepared defensive positions. Once we deployed to the forest and created our ammo dump around the objective flag, our unit (bolstered by Hans from the 9th SS and Panzer1B) took up a defensive line just behind a rise that delineated the swamp and the forest. I volunteered to hold down the left flank between the pond and the edge of the forest. Since this terrain was mostly open grass with a few scattered trees and the ditch/ravine, I had a deep field of fire that would allow me to take full advantage of the range of my Ersatzjack K98. I also had confidence that my Luger and one grenade would allow me to fend off any Americans that got within the minimum engagement distance allowed to rifles. My initial position was on the field side of the ravine in line with the rest of our unit. I had a great view of the 36th ID troops advancing into the swamp from their camp. My first shots of the day were at some unsuspecting Americans who were moving towards our right flank. I don't know if they were effective or not, but it was sure to give them a first taste of the stubborn defense they were about to run into from Alban, Wolfgang, Mike and Nick on our right flank. Soon enough however, the American Infantry began to advance along the top of the ravine. I was able to keep them at bay until their advance put me within range of their Thompsons. I was forced to beat a speedy retreat across the ravine and back into the forest where I took up a new position next to Hans (sniper98) behind a large fallen tree. The Americans knew my approximate location and it wasn't long before the BBs started ricocheting off the trees all around us. Hans and I did our best to try and pick off the American on point who was running up and down the edge of the forest trying to get a firing angle on us. Every time he found a spot that allowed him a clear field of fire he found himself on the receiving end of a volley of shots from our K98s. It soon became apparent to me that they didn't know both of us were there, but with all the BBs coming into our location it was only a matter of time before one of both of us would be hit. I told Hans that I was going to beat a retreat to try and draw their fire away from him. It worked, and I was able to retake my position on the left flank slightly behind my original position. The Americans, who thought that the sector was now clear, wandered right into Hans' trap, and he eliminated two of them with a grenade. This allowed me to advance up the ravine slightly where I continued to harass the advancing Americans with long range Mauser fire. I notched a few kills on guys who tried to flank me by getting out into the trees and but was eventually killed for the first time once they advanced within the effective range of the Thompsons. When I got back to the objective point in the forest to reload and 'spend' my first token, I was shocked that the zip lock bag in the bucket with the axis tokens was still sealed! Yeah it was a bummer to be the first casualty in our sector, but I was emboldened by the stoutness of our defense. I quickly reloaded my mags, took a swig of water from my canteen and made double-time to retake my position on the flank. My timing could not have been better. Otto (ersatzjack) had just eliminated the Americans that had killed me and he took up a position hiding against the field-side slope of the ravine. It was here that I began to play the role of 'wolf in sheep's clothing' by standing out in the open in the field taking long range shots at the Allies advancing in the brush along the ravine. I was just outside of the range of their Thompsons (their rounds were falling about 5 feet in front of me) and began to slowly back up to match their advance. Once the Americans advanced to a certain point, they tried to replicate their previous tactic of sprinting across the field to the scattered spruce trees along the pond. This time however they fell right into our trap. While they knew the trees would provide adequate cover from me, they had no idea that they had just blundered into Otto's field of fire. Otto popped up over the edge of the ravine and mowed them all down with his MP-44. I have to say this was my most satisfying moment of the day and probably the best unspoken coordination between 2 players that I've ever been a part of in all of my time playing both airsoft and paintball! After Otto neutralized the threat, I took up a position underneath one of the spruce trees in the field to get a better angle on the advancing Americans. The next group of three that wandered into my sights were totally confused by where the incoming fire was coming from. It didn't take too long for them to figure it out and charge my position where I was eliminated again. I returned to the respawn area to discover that only 2 Axis tokens were in the dead bucket! Wow my confidence in our defense could not have been higher! I once again returned to our flank to watch Big Ed roll his mortar into the town... I could only guess that the FJs had folded under the relentless assault of Tommy Guns and BARs. I tried to eliminate Ed across the pond with my Mauser while trying to avoid his incoming mortar fire (to no avail) when I saw a group of partisans and FJs approaching from the German camp to relieve us in the woods. I was in the process of giving them a SitRep when a tennis ball dropped from the trees right at my feet. I called myself out and walked out of the woods, yelled "nice shot Ed" across the pond and started walking back to the Axis camp to refill my canteen. It was when I was in our camp that I had the pleasure of watching the rest of my 3pzg brothers retake the town (Alban's fumbling with the flag was especially entertaining). I finished my quick break, and respawned in the camp since my CO was in the vicinity. I was then ordered to take up a sniping position in the first pillbox (finally a chance to fight from these wonderful bunkers) and had the pleasure of watching our uber-partisan Salvatore retake the front objective flag and then wipe out the subsequent American advance with some awesome work with his MP40. With the Partisans firmly controlling the front approaches to the village, I went to the back bridge to join the rest of my unit in defending the rear approach to the village. We were able to keep them at bay for a while until Otto's MP-44 went down right before the Americans charged the bridge. I was once again eliminated by the charging Americans and their cursed Thompsons. When I respawned at the camp, I was able to assist Salvatore in eliminating the threat to the rear of the village by getting two Amis to surrender at the point of my Luger. I then went to the front of the village playground and took up a sniping position on the Merry-Go-Round where I was able to pick off three or four Americans who had just respawned at the front objective point. One of them with a BAR was able to eliminate me and I went back to respawn again when I was informed by my CO that a general retreat had been ordered. Bummer. The surrender and subsequent search by the American forces was pretty humiliating (although the guy who was searching me failed to confiscate my bayonet... I guess he wasn't paid to do police work ) The filming of the prisoner march was also fun, if you see the video, during the mass escape attempt and slaughter, you'll see me with my hands in the air shouting 'Don't Shoot' in German. Yes, I'll fight to the death in combat but have no desire to be slaughtered like a sick dog. I have some constructive criticism on scenario design (don't worry we've made the same mistakes ourselves) which I am going to incorporate with our experiences at MOA events into a Scenario Design and Planning thread series on this board. I think there were many things done very well in the design of the game that can be instructive for scenario planners in the future. I also think that it will be useful to dissect and discuss the things that could have gone better. Once again I'd like to thank Sean, Josh and all of the NY crew who made this an event to remember! My experience was overwhelmingly positive and I would go to another one of your events in a heartbeat! EDIT: Here's the pic of me being searched.... whoops nothing in the mag pouches, but you missed that huge knife on my belt.. ;D
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Post by Garrick Udet on Jul 21, 2008 15:36:37 GMT -5
-3rd Panzer Grenadiers continue holding their thin line against the 36ID. One Panzer Grenadier is even able to assist the 3rd FJ from across the ponds by eliminating a flanking paratrooper. Heh, that was me! I had forgotten about that in my AAR. If anyone has any doubts about the long-range effectiveness of an Ersatzjack springer K98, that shot was about 250' away with a cross-wind. This is why I was frustrated that I couldn't take out Big Ed in the same way later. But as Ed pointed out after the game when I was sharing this lament with him, he had picked the widest part of the pond to set up his Mortar. He's one smart heavy weapons guy, that's for darn sure! Maybe next time I'll have built a German mortar to provide counter-battery fire
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Post by Rekkon on Jul 21, 2008 16:06:26 GMT -5
Length warning! Bleh, much driving. And that transport smelled like sniper. My AAR: I really liked the forest we were defending. It was sufficiently cluttered without being overly brushy. I have limited patience for ‘brushball.’ The ravines made very interesting terrain as well. Anyway, Otto set us up just behind a ridge, and we formed a continuous defensive line. It was a good reverse slope defense since we were just back from the crest of the ridge. Attackers would be picking their way up a slope and pop into view, giving them minimal time to examine the terrain ahead before coming under fire. We also had two MP40s closer to the crest to give early warning and harry any Allies while they were still in the heavy brush. This worked well. Not long after fighting erupted on the left of the line near the lake, a lone Allied probe came our way and were promptly sent packing. Only one guy made it up the ridge and shot our sniper. He traded fire with another grenadier, and I took him out with a 3-5 round burst. Those were the only shots I fired in the woods. The Allies never again probed farther in, and I was left holding the right essentially by myself as more manpower was shifted to the left where all the action was. I could definitely make out the metallic cycling of Otto’s MP44, and at times it seemed there was fighting all around. To further add to my confusion, I could consistently hear Allies voices and gunfire ahead of me, which I realized much later must have been their camp. I saw one of our riflemen lob a grenade and eliminate two Allies that had been able to push into the woods. Eventually our XO called me back. We left the woods defense to the Fallschirmjagers and went to retake the village. As we came back into the open, I saw Biged with his mortar across the lake. I yelled for our group, which now included partisans to disperse. They did, but Biged’s aim was true, and a cluster of three rounds landed right in our midst, wiping out 2-3 partisans, including hitting one of them in the leg. We pushed against the city, closing with the mortar and I hosed down its operator for some well deserved retribution. Alban bravely recapped the undefended town. About this time we noticed a group of Allies moving along the other side of the lake toward the bridge. Several of us peeled back to head them off. I got there just as one of them plopped down a .30 cal and opened up. I set up shop and mowed down several as they crossed in the open toward cover. Soon only one was left, and a pincer movement from our side and the FJs in the woods ended him in short order. More allies eventually built up across the bridge, and while some fire was traded, mostly we both dug in and stared at each other. After the woods were lost, I mined our side of the bridge. They did not eliminate anyone, but I hear they freaked out quite a few Amis. After a while I saw Biged in the treeline across the bridge acting suspicious. I assumed he was setting up another mortar and reported such when I went back to reload. It was suggested I take a few troops and flank wide in the forest to kill it. I grabbed two partisans and headed back. Once there I discovered that five Allies had (finally) gone around the lake and were threatening to flank us, so I took my small kampfgruppe and went to meet them. We hid in the grass and waited. When they finally pressed ahead, I killed three, including one in the back after he passed just above my position. When I went to fire, I found that I had bumped the cursed MP40 battery switch and could not fire. Fortunately he did not spot me and went on his merry way. I could hear seven kinds of heck going on behind me though. By the time I felt it safe to inch up for a view, I could see that the Allies had taken the bridge. I considered attacking them from the rear, but from the conversation I could overhear, I knew they knew I was there. After a while, I whispered to the remaining partisan to stay where she was. I broke cover and ran away from the bridge, hoping to draw some Amis into her line of fire. There was no AEG fire chasing me, and I glanced back to see overheated, disinterested and topless Americans watching me from the bridge. I went around the lake, and one of them came back across the bridge to head me off. Abruptly I ducked into the ravine and quickly disappeared into the forest, taking cover and waiting to ambush any patrols that came after me. At this point I only hoped that I could tie down more than my number and aid the village that way. I saw no pursuit so I made my way through the woods back to the forest control point and, finding no guards, recapped it. I moved a short distance away and dug in to defend it. 15-30 minutes passed. Every so often I saw someone walk by on the lakeshore and heard voices, but could not make out what they were saying. Eventually I realized they were looking for me as the game was over. I came back to find the German team had surrendered without me. Not once was I hit during the game. Overall a good game. Many thanks to the New York folks for having us out there. The field was great, and they put a lot of work into it beforehand. Constructive criticism: I very much appreciate the effort put into the grenades, but I felt they were not the best way to go. I only saw three used, two of which failed (the ones I threw). However, both those were thrown overhand across the bridge, so no doubt they failed on impact as mentioned previously in the thread. Insofar as possible, all rules should be decided upon beforehand and posted online for people to read before. I understand there were only a few main organizers and that this was only the third New York event, but having everything online in advance cuts down on confusion. Verbally relaying much of the important information makes it much easier for players to miss something or misunderstand. My local group had this problem back in June for their event as well. Only in special cases should event coordinators be deciding upon rules on the fly. Magazine restrictions. I like the idea of only allowing people to reload at bases, but it was a horrible idea for this game where only the German team had rifles and low caps. I know riflemen were exempt from this rule, but it still only made things worse given the ubiquity of Allied high cap Thompsons. Either require the use of low caps for everyone (which I prefer) or let the low cap people reload on the field. Another variant would be to have a couple ammo cans on the field that someone can carry around to let players reload where they are and/or restrict high cap users to only one magazine. The bang kill rule (or surrender rule) should only be used when you surprise another player at close range. This is a courtesy, i.e. not shooting them at point blank range. I heard people charging into positions yelling surrender when their targets were behind cover. If you get over the top, fine, but you should not be yelling surrender when you are halfway across the bridge to defenders behind the hay bales. The range on this should be about 10 feet. That is what just about every other major event I have been to has used. Players should not spawn at points the other team is trying to capture, like the flags, as the defenders can pretty much just respawn in place and hold virtually indefinitely. Either the spawn points should be disjoint from the flags or players should have to sit in place once they are hit for a couple minutes before returning to respawn. Usually this is used in conjunction with a medic system, but there is no reason it cannot be used on its own. Another option would be to have all respawns at a main base. This requires much more walking, but simplifies things. Aside from this issue, I liked the token respawn system, but then I have played a lot of Battlefield 1942.
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Post by YankeeDiv26 on Jul 21, 2008 16:23:27 GMT -5
I caught two unsuspecting little U.S. paratroopers with their pants down....I will not mention any names.. That was cut short however, when I ran out of ammunition and was pinned in the bunker by someone with a BAR. Jack and I If only SOMEONE was watching our left flank *cough* jack *cough*. BAR was probably me too, I was firing from my position on the porch of the house, then Biged came up with the bazooka. Visual. Color's correspond with report. Thick line indicates FT (fire team) #2's movement, thin line indicates my personal movement. White Square indicates point where I was a casuality. Black square indicates position where I rejoined the engagement.Fire team #2 (Duece, Nimlas, JP, and myself) departed from their encampment at the orchard and advanced behind FT#1 by means of the crick, then peeled off to the left and planned to assault the main house via a small field and bridge. Upon approaching along the right flank of the field we began to encounter considerable resistance from german troops hidden in the bush in the ravine. while providing suppressive fire with my BAR we eleminated what my team thought was all of the enemy. My insistance to check for a second german proved right, and pvt. Miller (Nimlas) went on a flanking maneuver across the field and was hit. Meanwhile my supressive fire played it's role and got the (probable) kill at the second enemy. Upon moving up ;)towards the back-door bridge I was immediatly wounded by a (probable) shot from a sniper and went back to our encampment to respawn. I rejoined the action at a position on the back-side of the main house with the majority of FT#2 and was immediatly pinned down by a MG position in a re-inforced bunker on top of a 30ft mound. The same MG had pvt. Miller (Nimlas) pinned the left side garage along the treeline, and unkown to pvt. Miller 2-3 partisans were approaching him from a shed 30ft up from the garage. After failing to establish contact with him, I dumped my BAR and equipment and sprinted the (approx) 40ft between the house and the garage in order to assist him, dodging MG fire the whole time. After I sucessfully eliminated 1 partisan approachign from the L with my 1911a1, and pvt. Miller eliminating 1 partisan from the R with his m1928, I again sprinted back to the main house and donned on my gear and main weapon. FT#2 was still pinned down on the lake-side of the house by the MG.
Just minutes after Pvt Miller and I secured the garage, FT#1 approached and took up a position there. Soon another 2-4 axis took up a position along the shed and although FT#1 was getting confirmed kills from their position, their advance had been thwarted and they were unable to fire upon the enemy behind the shed.
The 82nd AB commander requested a grenade and I was the (only?) member to have one on-person instead of at supply. Again, I sprinted across to the garage (more easily this time having had covering fire) and supplied a grenade. Pvt. Mccallion, another member of FT#1, and myself moved on the treeline-side fo the garage where I was to pitch a grenade and eliminate the enemy behind the shed. I rested my BAR along the garage wall, ran up, threw my grenade, and sprinted back in a matter of seconds, with FT#1 graciously providing covering fire. My grenade failed to detonate (likely by throwing it too hard) and I retook my weapon, and sprinted back to the FT#2 behind the main house.
FT#1 advanced up past the garage and had taken the shed, but were still encountering heavy fire from the MG position and snipers in the treeline. At the same time FT#2 was pinned down by the MG position on top of the mound. Duece, our FT leader watched the MG and would give me the signal to fire bursts of fire from the BAR whenever the MG engaged FT#1. After several minutes of this with no effect I exchanged position with a SMG man and hydrated myself and took a 5min rest behind the shed.
While I was drinking from my canteen, William joined FT#2 and insisted on firing on the MG position with his colt .45 revolver. In true gunslinger form, he took ONE shot from the lakeside corner of the main house and hit an enemy on the hill where the MG was, Immediatly earning a great amount of respect from FT#2 (as well as 1337 squad ).
Another small wave of axis began approaching along the tree-line and I was called up to the non-lakeside side of the main house in order to provide suppressive fire with the BAR. Aftering eliminating 1 confirmed and 1 probable axis, I was again hit by a sniper in the treeline (to their credit, they were outstanding marksmen with high-quality rifles) and re-spawned at the then-captured main house flag just feet away.
By this point, fatigue, heat, and a lack of water started to take it's physical toll on the men and the majority of FT#1 (mainly seasoned veterans who had been with the unit since it's formation and seen combat since N. Africa ) returned to the base camp to rehydrate, eat, and take a breif rest. FT#2, our unit's ammo-less bazooka/mortan man (Biged), a few others, and myself held positions at the garage and main house. San peitro had been secured, and the MG nest had been eliminated.
After 20 or so minutes, Pvt. Miller and I went back to base to reload on ammunition, eat, DRINK, and take a breif rest. While I was changing my socks the 82nd AB commander reported that far to few men were manning the lines and the axis were regaining territory, despite FEIRCE resistance from the remaining soldiers there (in true commander form, he had been one of the last men to pull out). Pvt. Miller, several other members, and myself were back on the advance minutes later, in an attempt to recapture all the positions we had taken. A mixed group from FT#2 and FT#1 moved up to the ravine just after our bazookaman fired several rounds upon the main house. We moved throught the ravine, and FT#1's seasoned leader kept watch on a sniper shooting at the approaching GI's from a position at a bend in the ravine. Pvt. Miller and I approached through the same spot we had the first offensive, and low-crawled to the bridge at the back-door of the main house when we were both wounded by crafty axis snipers at the main house. As walking wounded, the axis commandant, a true gentleman, graciously allowed us to return to our main base through their lines. While Pvt. Miller was thanking his captor he was assasinated by a ruthless and green partisan, I witnessed this war crime first hand. We met up with the remnants of FT#2 at main base, and decided to do a wide flanking maneuver to re-capture the garage and eliminate the snipers. we flanked far out of range, and while crossing a small stream Pvt. Miller noticed a german soldat running across the field just barely within range of his m1928 thompson. Firing a long arched burst and leading his targed he eliminated the axis soldat before any other member of FT#2 got a chance to fire.
FT#2 then advanced freely up to the garage, and at the same time FT#1 had overwhelmed their resistance and had retaken the main house. I realized that several axis were moving up through the village and that we would need to take the MG nest and hill in order to cut them off. Because my BAR was almost out of ammunition and wasn't allowed to engage at close range, I again unholstered my .45 and prepared to assault the position alone. The MG had been pulled out but two axis riflemen took it's place it the nest, and one partisan had taken cover ina small drop in the hill. I threw a grenade, eliminated the partisan (probable) and half crawled, half ran up the hill with my .45 to take the MG nest. I proposed surrender to the two soldat's in the nest, and while searching for intellegence one of my POW's took off down the hill and out of my sight. If I ran after him I would have lost my remaining POW, so I held the position.
Knowing I could not keep a POW, search for intell, and hold on to the hill and MG nest all alone and with just a .45, I freed my POW on the condition he went back to his base camp and told his remaining comerades of his humane treatment by his American captor. The soldat held true to his word and departed without violence.
Pvt. Miller joined me up on the hill, pvt Mccallion brought up my BAR, and William breifly came and went after expending all his ammunition on the town of San Peitro. While I was reloading my BAR and inserting a fresh battery, I orderd pvt. Miller to watch our L flank for axis approaching up from the hill. not more than a minute later I heard cries of "surrender!" in perfect english coming from a FJ who had sneaked up the L flank. I looked up to notice it was again the axis commandant, and our lives were spared again. I returned to the main house, respawned, and just moments later AGAIN encountered sniper fire from the treeline. Me and another BAR man had become the first two targets, and I noticed rounds zipping inches from him, eventaully one made it's mark and he was eliminated. This entire time I had been firing bursts from my BAR, dodging fire in the open, when I suddenly realized I needed to change magazines. I let one mag out, drew another, reloaded it, and found it was an empty mag. Repeating the process (mind you, still under superbly accurate sniper fire) I saw an axis soldat running up along the lake. I dropped my BAR, pulled out my last grenade, and heaved it. It exploded chest hight just about 5ft away from the approaching soldat and I did not want to see the gruesome effect it left and averted my eyes from the scene. Just as I slid in a fresh mag, I felt a sharp pain in my neck and realized I had finally been hit by the sniper in the treeline. The round missed my jugular by mere inches, and I stumbled my way back to respawn at the flagpole by the main house. At the respawn point at the main house, the 82nd AB Commander gave an order to assault San Pietro with full force and overrun the enemy with what little troops we had left. By this point the MG position on the mound had been retaken and I volunteered to provide suppressive fire from the lake-side of the main house while our bazookaman fired his last round on the bunker. He fired and in a one-in-a-million chance the rocket went straight through the firing slit and out the other side. It must have given the axis rifleman inside a serious concussion because he stopped firing. I continued to pour bursts from the BAR while the rest of the force mopped up the region.
The MG position having been eliminated, I followed the charge towards San Peitro and set up my BAR on the MG bunker. From that elevation I was able to take out several axis soldaten and partisans approachign San Peitro, and the rest of the airborne element re-took the town.
Our enemy had been feirce defenders, but what remained of their ranks were riddled with walking wounded who had been ferociously defending the town under heavy small arms, mortar, and bazooka fire. The axis commandant saw defeat as enevitable and spared the rest of his men in a mass-surrender. I took out my victory cigar and lit it up, jubilant with victory.
Several other soldiers and I dissarmed and searched the POW's, and my FT leader and I were assigned to gaurd them on their march back to a POW camp behind the lines. Suddenly, at what must have been a pre-determined point, one axis soldat ran across a stream in order to escape. In a matter of seconds the entire colum broke out into an all out escape. In the first flashing seconds I wanted to honor the same men who had graciously spared my life, but soon several axis were just feet away from literally beating me to death. The combined rounds from my BAR and two Thompson SMG's instantly cut down the swarming axis. I took a long draw on my cigar, and returned to my unit. For me the battle was over. [AA] (for the day)
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Jul 21, 2008 16:37:21 GMT -5
Awesome report Yankee. Enjoyed hearing it. I wish I could have went.
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Post by Ersatzjack on Jul 21, 2008 18:47:23 GMT -5
Nice after action reports to all, and special thanks to that wonderful map YankeeDiv26. Color coding an AAR. That's a first I think. That really allows for a better understanding. The area that isn't shown well is the forest in the northern part of the map but that wasn't what you were describing so no big deal. But the 3rd PzGr and the 36th ID fought in the northern part of the map in the forest and the open grassland (sprinkled with trees) along the top part of the pond.
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Post by mccallion on Jul 21, 2008 19:13:50 GMT -5
awsome aar yankee
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Post by ersatzjack2 on Jul 21, 2008 23:22:09 GMT -5
YankeeDiv26 wrote, "In a matter of seconds the entire colum broke out into an all out escape. In the first flashing seconds I wanted to honor the same men who had graciously spared my life, but soon several axis were just feet away from literally beating me to death. The combined rounds from my BAR and two Thompson SMG's instantly cut down the swarming axis. I took a long draw on my cigar, and returned to my unit. For me the battle was over." Cut down the swarming UNARMED axis!! Sounds like a confession. Good thing you won the war.
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Post by YankeeDiv26 on Jul 21, 2008 23:33:04 GMT -5
YankeeDiv26 wrote, "In a matter of seconds the entire colum broke out into an all out escape. In the first flashing seconds I wanted to honor the same men who had graciously spared my life, but soon several axis were just feet away from literally beating me to death. The combined rounds from my BAR and two Thompson SMG's instantly cut down the swarming axis. I took a long draw on my cigar, and returned to my unit. For me the battle was over." Cut down the swarming UNARMED axis!! Sounds like a confession. Good thing you won the war. emphasis on "just feet away from literally beating me to death". I was charged and it was kill or be killed. If I wanted to just shoot. why would I have taken POW(s) and let them go? Let the footage decide! (all in good humor ) <YD>
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Post by Nimlas on Jul 22, 2008 0:50:22 GMT -5
Since it appears that I am featured quite heavily in Tim's AAR, I might not need to write one! In my defense Tim, I WAS watching the left flank, until there was some commotion down and to the right, and I turned to make quite sure that we were not being approached or fired upon from the right. It was right at this moment that Sean came gallivanting(it was actually pretty damned sneaky, he got the drop on us) up the hill to our ultimate demise. The period atmosphere in the Allied camp was wonderful. Although, to going out at 10:00PM to grab some BK sort of killed the mood, I can live with it. Many people had complaints about the sheer number of mosquitoes, however, Tim and I were not heckled too badly, and we both slept outside of our tents. My only complaint pertains to those who chose to stay up for the duration of the night talking in not so hushed tones. I only saw the German camp from afar but it looked excellent as well.
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Post by Gerry on Jul 22, 2008 10:03:41 GMT -5
Pheeew... Just about finished packing and stowing all my gear away, I didn't realize I brought that much stuff!!!! These are some of the Best AAR I've ever seen! Great job fellas!!!! Big thanks to Sean, Ray, Josh and anyone else from the 3.Fallschirm for all the preparation and work they did to make this an awesome event which it turned out to be! The German camp was most fun, I didn't make it over to the Allied camp 'cause I was to busy working in the German camp but from the pics it looked great! Too bad the massive thunderstorms Friday night put a big dent in the whole thing. When we returned to our Zelt tent after the storm everything including the tent walls were soaked. I had planned on bringing modern camping equipment just for this reason but after spying the weather reports which called for sun all weekend I opted not to, big mistake so we went down and spent the night in the Super 8, which was not a terrible thing but was not on the list of expenses for the weekend. We arrived for game briefing on Saturday morning and I was immediately impressed by the impressions on both teams, everyone looked great with the exception of a few items that jumped out at me and some haircuts I'd say Authenticity standards were at 90-95%. It was worlds away from the Albany event I attended last Fall. Kudo's to everyone... for stepping this up!!! For the first time in my unlucky life I actually won a raffle prize, yippeeee! I brought my best Buddy Larry up with my brother and I, he played as a partisan(Salvatore) He was a substantial part of the Axis defense, he was very reluctant to get into Airsofting, especially WWII, we tried to squeeze him into my tropical kit but when I told him he had to shave... Well... thats when we decided to go Italian. He had a great time for his first ever event and I think he definitely lived up to the bio I posted for him, he stayed "in Character" for most of the weekend and fought like an animal. Larry, my brother Mike and I always have a great time when we spend a weekend at any event and this was no exception! Thanks guys! It was great to see Otto(Mike) again and to meet the guys from the 3rd Panzer grenadier division, a real bunch of great guys! To bad Steve couldn't make it. I hope you guys will come to more events in the east, you are an asset to WWII Airsofting. I am not gonna clog up space with a long AAR as I won't add anything to what has already been written. As this is a sport that is still in the growing stage and the guys in the 3.Fallschirm are a very important part of the process I will just add a few thoughts and observations to the thread for the future. This is just some constructive criticism if this event was run the same exact way next time I would still absolutely attend without a doubt! Since WWII airsoft is supposed to be WWII reenacting with Airsoft weapons, I thought the idea of the separate camps with no modern items was an awesome Idea, we would have a living history, camp life, type event mixed up with tactical reenacting, with guns that actually fire projectiles.. What could be better??? We were all guilty of bending the rules a little, water bottles, coolers etc. I think that we need to police ourselves just a little more in the future but it was great and I think it should be done at every Airsoft event! All day game play seemed good on paper but I think that if the day was broken down into several scenarios with short breaks in between and a designated lunch break we would have had less "loafing", Better squad tactics, a bit more organization, large force on force engagements and a longer day. I felt really bad for the guys that had a days drive to get to the game to play for only a few hours. Though I'm sure with the grueling heat and the lack of a decent nights sleep Friday that most probably didn't mind the shortened play. The engagement distances and surrender rules were not very appealing either, I understand not shooting an unsuspecting player in the back from 10 feet away but yelling surrender from a mound 30 feet away was silly. It seemed for the most part later in the morning no one adhered to this rule anyhow! I liked the Spawn buckets, they were a great idea but we had 20 on 20! The forces should not have been split on 2 sides of the field rather they should both have been consolidated into one large force consisting of 2 squads both with one main objective. Both with a one Commanding officer and 2 NCO's or squad leaders. For example Germans defend the town Americans take the town and work on your squad tactics.... Like Fallschirmjagers/Italians hold the town when that starts to crumble the Grenadiers move in to counterattack and strengthen defenses. American Infantry takes the town head on while the Airborne forces either attack it from the flank or the rear. When you are hit you are either dead for the scenario (not the most fun), You have a limited number of spawn tokens to use, or you must wait 5 minutes or when you have 5 or so players ready to re spawn you reenter the fight. The scenario is over when: A. Americans capture a designated position say for applesauce s sake the heavy pillbox in town that houses the commanding German officer or B. Germans defend the town for 30 or 60 minutes and keep their CO alive and safe. Everyone heads back to their camp rests, waters and is back on the field at a designated time for next scenario or mission briefing or the scenarios/maps can be printed out ahead of time and given to each player with objectives and start times and it is up to the team CO to be sure his men are in position on the field at the start time of the given scenario or risk being undermanned and having weak points. This would give the CO/NCO's more of a military type command. All in all it was a great game to bad the German heavy weapons all went down and those blasted Ami's all carried Thompsons! Some Photos, I didn't really take many! Camp life in Italy, swapping stories with some of the local Italian civilians and swatting mosquitoes August Weis wounded and thinking if this may be the last time he enjoys peace or draws on his grandfathers pipe. I can't wait for the next one! -Gerry
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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on Jul 22, 2008 10:40:25 GMT -5
gerry528, Awesome constructive criticism! We ran our last two events similar to that style. I think we will rehash on the good and the bad of this past game and build upon it.
I think it would have been much better if we completely eliminated the forest flank and concentrated on the first flag objective and village.
We also could have forced a waiting period/rest period between re-spawns.
All in all it was a great learning experience! I hope not to be planning another event anytime soon as this one was a huge drain on my enthusiasm of event hosting. Next event I intend to relax a lot more and travel too.
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Post by Garrick Udet on Jul 22, 2008 13:42:46 GMT -5
Raimund, Warlord and Burt, Yeah event organizing is tough, especially when you want to play and enjoy the fruits of your labor. My hat goes off again to you guys. As far as the 4 hours of game time, don't worry about it. It was so hot and humid, it would have been impossible for me to muster the energy to play another game, even a quick one. Although I had tossed out the idea of a pistols only skirmish in the village after I had gone Flaggrantly Wrong and swapped the woolies for my cargo shorts. If you read this month's issue of Airsoft International (July 08) they have a great writeup of the Operation Varsity event that was held in the UK. They do a good job of explaining the scenario tree, where they link together a number of shorter skirmishes with outcome dependencies. For example we could have had the first skirmish of the day be the Allies attacking the German defenders in the woods. If the allies won, they would be able to use the woods to attack the rear flank of the village and also be allowed to move their mortars up to the side of the pond. If the Germans won, the woods would be off limits except for maybe an airborne drop or something. Anyway, something to think about for the next one. If you guys want to take it easy from the event planning perspective, you're always welcome at one of our Ostfront events... October is getting closer, I'm sure we'll have a posting for that event up after our Baltic Summer. Just something to think about ;D
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Post by Medic on Jul 22, 2008 16:14:38 GMT -5
When in the video coming out? Where? And will there be a link?
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Post by Lev on Jul 22, 2008 17:58:24 GMT -5
Excellent looking event, lads! I wish I could have made this one. Perhaps next year. I have only one point of contention with some of the photos. I don't think the Germans were in the habit of using their own flag as a table cloth. That's not a task befitting your nation's colors
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Post by alban on Jul 22, 2008 18:53:21 GMT -5
Wow, that was an awesome event!!! I wanted to go to the last two events but other plans came up instead, but I am so glad I got to go this time. Glad I could meet some of you guys finally and I plan on making the trip again for the next event. A big thanks to everyone who planned the event and was behind making it happen. Worth the 46 hours of driving, can't wait for some video.
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Post by SfcMigs on Jul 24, 2008 16:51:46 GMT -5
What a great event!! A special thanks to Sean and the event organizers for putting on a great event for all of us.
From the battle plan lay out, to the fortifications and even the "free zone" what a top notch job they did. Also a very special thank you to all the players who were so gracious and curtious throughout the game to me and my 10 year old son Dean. All of you have contributed to memorable moments in his young life.
To everyone, enjoy the rest of your summer and hope to see you all at the next event.
SFC Migs
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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on Jul 31, 2008 10:02:15 GMT -5
Does anyone have 4 MP 40 mags and one pouch that isn't theirs? I'm missing 4 MP-40 mags that I lent to an Partisan. A woman partisan... don't remember her name... But, if you still have these or know where then ended up... can someone inform me? Thank you!
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Post by Warlord on Jul 31, 2008 11:37:37 GMT -5
Contact Godo on these boards, I believe that is his wife.
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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on Jul 31, 2008 12:19:45 GMT -5
Yeah, I’m sure whoever ended up with them, it was a mistake! We all kind of were tired and everything was all over the place. I’m surprised that I didn’t notice they were gone until now… but, then again I just got to unpacking my car!
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Post by Rekkon on Jul 31, 2008 12:23:02 GMT -5
Warlord is correct. If you have problems contacting Godo, let me know.
I ended up with the correct number of MP40 mags, but one of them was not mine, so if someone finds a used-to-be white sticker with initials on the bottom, that would be why. Not really an issue, and it was probably someone from my unit.
We did have a spare MP40 pouch (with mags) sitting with our gear after the event, but I thought someone said it was Nick's. I do not know where it ended up.
Aside: Any news on the video?
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Post by godo on Jul 31, 2008 21:17:41 GMT -5
Raimund, I asked my wife - she said she was only using the mags lent to me by Garrick because she did not have a belt to stow any mags so we shared. She did recall that there were mags left by the footlocker near the 3rd PGs tent at the end of the day, and that they were in green MP40 pouches and no one could figure out whose they were. I bet they are yours. I any case, we did not end up taking any borrowed items back with us. Warlord, did you have any surplus equipment at the end? Keep asking around, someone has to have them.
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Post by Ersatzjack on Jul 31, 2008 22:52:33 GMT -5
We did have a spare MP40 pouch (with mags) sitting with our gear after the event, but I thought someone said it was Nick's. I do not know where it ended up. Nick is also known as Panzer IB on these boards and fell in with us. I think he was borrowing gear from Gordak. Maybe Nick will chime in. Who did he give his gear back to.
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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on Aug 1, 2008 7:18:36 GMT -5
Well, they are in a green MP-40 pouch! One magazine is floating… (not in a pouch) But… hopefully they turn up…
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Post by Gordak on Aug 2, 2008 17:10:29 GMT -5
very possible its in one of the rubber drums I have, Ill have to check
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Post by Medic on Aug 2, 2008 18:38:07 GMT -5
Whatever happened to the video?
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Post by Warlord on Aug 2, 2008 20:45:14 GMT -5
Whatever happened to the video? Give him some time. He is very busy during the summer with weddings and other airsoft events, I don't plan on rushing him. Ray, I'll go up to the field and check the stuff that was left inside the house, there were a few items that people left behind, I will post a list. I think I remember seeing MP40 pouches there as well.
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Post by Karl on Aug 2, 2008 21:52:23 GMT -5
I accidently left my binoculars there, I'll pay you postage if you could ship them to me.
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