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Post by Fusilier on Jun 26, 2010 23:53:44 GMT -5
OK,just what the title says,list the WORST War movies you've ever seen,in no particular order.
Here's mine:
Dirty Dozen- Words cannot describe how I feel about this movie!
Gettysburg-I have friends in this movie who can't watch it! BAD special effects,and fat reenactors!
Gods and Generals- See above!
Windtalkers- Don't get me started!
Saints and Soldiers- PLEASE!
Miracle at St. Anna- Two words- SPIKE LEE!
Stalingrad-Bad plot,bad acting,BAD.
Thin Red Line- Natives and nature..nuff said!
A Midnight Clear- Movie starts off with a guy running screaming naked through the Ardennes! AWFUL movie!
OK next..
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Post by Fusilier on Jun 27, 2010 0:06:44 GMT -5
OH,How could I forget what MAY be the worst ever! The one that makes me wanna smash my TV whenever I pass by it!
THE PATRIOT!
Totally makes a mockery of the Revolutionary War in o so many ways!
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Post by CharleyNovember on Jun 27, 2010 1:13:49 GMT -5
Bob, you are not a very positive person man. Lots of people just enjoy movies. I don't think it would be very fun to go watch a movie with you. Let me add god love you we can't all be positive all the time man. I just watch movies to watch them. I enjoyed some of those just as movies and movies alone. The Patriot among them.
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Post by gadge on Jun 27, 2010 6:37:16 GMT -5
The Big Red One is pretty dire. I'd also put 'Battle of the Bulge' in the list of films im in no hurry ever to see again.
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Post by gunfreak on Jun 27, 2010 8:24:49 GMT -5
Any movie with Lee Marvin can't be bad,(yes that includes gonna paint your waggon)
Windtalkers is probebly worst of the bunch closly followed by the patriot(that some teachers actualy show in hisory class and that scares the applesauce out of me)
I liked Gettysburg, didn't see that many fat reenactors, tho the rubber bayonets stick out.
Gods and generals on the other hand is just bad, white washing history, making the south seem like disney land.
Battle of the bulge is so bad it's funny, tank battles that suddenly transports the battle from belgium to the open planes of spain. But the german panzer song is cool
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Post by Fusilier on Jun 27, 2010 9:23:37 GMT -5
Bob, you are not a very positive person man. Lots of people just enjoy movies. I don't think it would be very fun to go watch a movie with you. Let me add god love you we can't all be positive all the time man. I just watch movies to watch them. I enjoyed some of those just as movies and movies alone. The Patriot among them. >> Dan.Those are just my opinions and I am being honest. Too each his own.. I like a lot more than I don't like believe me! As for the Patriot? I have been studying the Revolutionary War since I was a kid,and reenacting it since 1998. Not only me,but darn near everyone in the Rev War reenacting community think that is a God awful movie! The only thing that movie has in common with the Rev War,is that it takes place then! Thats it! The movie is a travesty to history to true students of the period!
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Post by Fusilier on Jun 27, 2010 9:24:21 GMT -5
I forgot the Big Red One and Battle of the Bulge! Though I liked them as a kid! After I saw them as I got older,I just cringed! lol!
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Post by ersatzjack2 on Jun 27, 2010 13:09:11 GMT -5
There are actually a lot more bad war movies than good ones. I think a thread about the good ones would be more interesting. I think we can all agree that BoB and Pvt. Ryan rank right up there. I would like to add a couple of older movies to that list. The Blue Max, Zulu, and Waterloo. All older and yet all very well done.
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Post by Fusilier on Jun 27, 2010 13:55:48 GMT -5
The Blue Max, Zulu, and Waterloo. All older and yet all very well done. >> Waterloo IS one of the all time classics! Even with its historical inaccuracies!
BTW people keep saying BoB. BoB was a series, not a movie..:-)
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Post by oberst42 on Jun 27, 2010 13:59:41 GMT -5
There are actually a lot more bad war movies than good ones. I think a thread about the good ones would be more interesting. I think we can all agree that BoB and Pvt. Ryan rank right up there. I would like to add a couple of older movies to that list. The Blue Max, Zulu, and Waterloo. All older and yet all very well done. the blue max is terribly inaccurate, it show the beginning of the the spring offensive and they're flying d7's those didn't come in to service until early may 1918, also the scene with manfred von richthofen is inacurate be cause hewas killed april 21st, again an issue with the timing, still a good movie just a little farb, and fusilier i don't see what you mean with bad acting in stalingrad, i liked it
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Post by Fusilier on Jun 27, 2010 14:04:05 GMT -5
fusilier i don't see what you mean with bad acting in stalingrad, i liked it >> The whole plot line with that creepy feldgendarme officer was just stupid! the guy was always popping up,like he was following the unit around.
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Post by oberst42 on Jun 27, 2010 15:40:53 GMT -5
i see what your saying there, never thought about that before
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Post by Fusilier on Jun 27, 2010 15:55:00 GMT -5
i see what your saying there, never thought about that before >> Yeah,way too weird! The black and white older version is MUCH better.
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Post by ersatzjack2 on Jun 27, 2010 16:08:45 GMT -5
I like the Blue Max because of the acting and the story. Plus, they built those planes for the movie. No computer regen on that flick. It's just a splendid piece of movie entertainment considering it was made in the sixties. I like Waterloo because of the sterling performances given by Christopher Plummer and Rod Steiger. Plus, the ending with the Old Guard was awesome. Zulu,... for the story and the acting. A movie doesn't have to be stitch nazi and some license is ok as long as they don't overdue it. Art is so subjective. BoB is a series but if you take the whole, it is a lot of footage and that's why I put it in the ten hour movie category. But... if we're allowing series, then Combat needs to be admired even with it's Wagon Train storyline. It too, was great entertainment for it's time.
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Post by Adler69 on Jun 27, 2010 16:27:22 GMT -5
Combat was and is a great series , the only other series that was just as good was "The Gallant Men"
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Jun 27, 2010 16:51:37 GMT -5
Yea both Combat and the Gallant men were great. The Gallant men had more of a WWII feel then Combat did, in my opinion at least. Probably because it often dealt with a larger number of men, had more officers and then Combat. Conley Wright the war journalist all gave it a WW2 feel. The thing I dislike is the majority of the episodes are romances. I like it a lot better when its just focusing on the men and fighting.
Combat mainly focused on the squad, not a bad thing but I don't know it often just felt they were the only ones fighting the war.
Either way both were very good TV Series way ahead the Rat Patrol or Garrisons Gorillas IMHO.
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Post by Ersatzjack on Jun 27, 2010 18:20:31 GMT -5
Well back to the topic on hand - WORST War Movies There can't be worst war movies, but only THE worst war movie. Drum roll...... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dirty_Dozen:_The_Fatal_Mission (scroll down to the internal link) There, it's settled. Do I win anything? Watch this one and wretch.
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Post by Fusilier on Jun 27, 2010 20:11:35 GMT -5
Combat was and is a great series , the only other series that was just as good was "The Gallant Men" >> As long as they don't show the Germans! lol! Yikes!
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Post by petermartin14 on Jun 27, 2010 20:47:31 GMT -5
i grew up with gods and generals, havent seen it since i was eight. haha maybe i missed something.
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Post by kalbs on Jun 27, 2010 20:50:38 GMT -5
'Battle of the Bulge' ...yup, can't stand that movie
Worst war TV show... "Ba Ba Blacksheep" but couldn't miss it. Kept waiting for the Fonz to show up with the cast of Knots Landing.
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Post by labrador on Jun 27, 2010 23:02:44 GMT -5
Nothing beats Steel Tempest.
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Post by Fusilier on Jun 27, 2010 23:43:27 GMT -5
'Battle of the Bulge' ...yup, can't stand that movie Worst war TV show... "Ba Ba Blacksheep" but couldn't miss it. Kept waiting for the Fonz to show up with the cast of Knots Landing. >>> My Dad watched it all the time and just laughed. He was attached to the Black Sheep as part of the ground crew for a bit. He told me how "Hollywooded up" it was.
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Post by zbear on Jul 12, 2010 10:01:58 GMT -5
the absolute worst is "The Last Panzer" or "The Battle of the Last Panzer" it makes Battle of the Bulge look like BOB. it is so bad you can't turn away, it is like watching a train wreck. www.angelfire.com/film/eurowar/battleoflastpanzer.htmlI have actually seen it listed under both names late at night on cable.
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Post by hairy apple on Jul 12, 2010 18:25:07 GMT -5
Hummm... how come no one has mentioned the one that I hate the most. Pearl Harbor. Christ, I hate that move. It's like a day time TV episode with a war as a sub plot. If the story wasn't bad enough, in the age of CGI there is no reason for modern ships as stand ins for ww2 era ships. Christ that movie was horible.
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Post by Adler69 on Jul 12, 2010 19:06:20 GMT -5
Hummm... how come no one has mentioned the one that I hate the most. Pearl Harbor. Christ, I hate that move. It's like a day time TV episode with a war as a sub plot. If the story wasn't bad enough, in the age of CGI there is no reason for modern ships as stand ins for ww2 era ships. Christ that movie was horible. I know man , the only thing that movie has going for it is Kate Beckinsale , although i like her a hell of a lot more as a Death Dealer, than a WWII era Navy nurse.
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Post by Fusilier on Jul 12, 2010 19:54:18 GMT -5
Hummm... how come no one has mentioned the one that I hate the most. Pearl Harbor. Christ, I hate that move. It's like a day time TV episode with a war as a sub plot. If the story wasn't bad enough, in the age of CGI there is no reason for modern ships as stand ins for ww2 era ships. Christ that movie was horible. >> LOL its on tonight an AMC! It is BAD! Nothing will ever beat Tora, Tora,Tora!
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jul 12, 2010 20:11:12 GMT -5
I used to say there is no such thing as bad war movie or a bad western I enjoyed all of them. Until I went to The thin red line and Windtalkers. The only war movies I was unable to watch from beginning to end. I walked out after about 15 minutes as I simply was unable to sit though them. Sean Pennis a fine actor but simply didn't work as a Marine WW2 1st Sgt!
There are lots of movies I enjoyed as a kid but see so much to dislike now as an adult and a veteran. Because few people know or care about the details to the degree that this audience does. The incorrect uniforms or equipment means very little to the masses hence few movies go to the expense or trouble getting them right.
This is far more troubling to me than I wish it were. Knowing what I know actually ruins most movies for me. Patton used to drag his wife to every war movie shown on post and often times left early when they made blatant errors in the historic details, uniforms or equipment. I laughed when I read that. Patton was apparently a stich Nazi like a lot of us!
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Post by MAS on Jul 12, 2010 20:43:53 GMT -5
you all seem to hate like every well know war movie, they are movies none are perfect just enjoy the good parts, anyways stalingrad sucked
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Jul 12, 2010 21:06:08 GMT -5
Well I agree on the Battle of the Bulge, I used to really like it but a couple years ago its true colors started to show. Just has a lot of corny lines and stupid inaccurate stuff. The stupid dialogue ruined it for me more then the uniform details. Some parts were done ok and actually had some nice actions scenes. The corny lines really ruined it and made many scenes really laughable. Really unfortunate as it had good actors, some well done scenes, and good soundtrack. Oh well.
I've heard of the Last Panzer really really inaccurate looking like in every way possible, but I am sure they had a small budget.
Its really annoying how so many movies mess up with those hug budgets they get. Give me a million dollars and I'll give you something you can watch.
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Post by volkssturm on Jul 12, 2010 23:19:22 GMT -5
Hummm... how come no one has mentioned the one that I hate the most. Pearl Harbor. Christ, I hate that move. It's like a day time TV episode with a war as a sub plot. If the story wasn't bad enough, in the age of CGI there is no reason for modern ships as stand ins for ww2 era ships. Christ that movie was horible. I never saw "Pearl Harbor", but just to compound the atrocity they made a novel version of it (usually it's the other way around). I picked it up at an airport when I was flying somewhere, so I was kinda stuck with it. I dropped it in a trash can at the other end of the flight. Damn! Wallace must have been writing a movie for 12 year olds. Add an obscure movie tothe worst list. "From hell to Victory", starring George Peppard as a war correspondent in England who's really an OSS agent who slips across the Channel for missions. Then, in the climactic scene, Peppard and some resistance guys link up with a beleagured US unit being attacked by panzers (commanded by an old pre-war German friend of his). He uses his OSS radio to coordinate a parachute drop and the paratroopers drive back the panzers with their bazookas. Then Peppard and some of the other leading characters brew up a pot of coffee and have some nostalgic dialoque. Oh, did I mention that Peppard's character is also dying of terminal cancer? Absolute worst war movie I've ever seen.
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