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Post by tinydata on Sept 15, 2010 16:18:54 GMT -5
ATF P41s ATF M1941 HBT Cap ATF USMC Leggings ATF P41 Suspenders Web gear is a mix of reproduction and original. So...for a hasty start, what do you guys think?
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Adler69
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Post by Adler69 on Sept 15, 2010 16:56:40 GMT -5
Looks good man , one little thing , change the location of your 1911 mag pouch , it should be on your left side , that's what the snap on the pistol belt is for and it will make reloading the 1911 much faster .
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Post by 10target on Sept 15, 2010 16:56:47 GMT -5
Now if you wanted to you could quit there because it's so flippin awesome. If I were to make additions though I'd say get an m1 belt, USMC did indeed use the pistol belt, but the m1 or 10 pocket was seen more after mid-war. Also soldiers didn't wear caps into battle they wore m1 helmets, but there are occasions when you see a tank or jeep crew with caps instead of helmets. Other than those two things I say well done and keep it going! Nice job indeed.
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Post by Adler69 on Sept 15, 2010 17:04:01 GMT -5
An M1923 cartridge belt would look wrong with his Thompson , since that is his primary , the M1936 pistol belt is fine and many mud Marines fought without helmets in the jungle , you can hear better in the jungle without a helmet.
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Post by 10target on Sept 15, 2010 17:07:13 GMT -5
I have a 1903 so...yeah, anyways the 10pocket belt would be fine, soldiers never were specified to a belt for a gun, at least I think, for higher ranked soldiers I guess but not for privates and such.
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Post by tinydata on Sept 15, 2010 17:19:31 GMT -5
Thanks guys, I'm a lefty so its all a bit of a compromise I didn't include a helmet due to budgetary constraints and the fact that M1 steel pots dont do well with full paintball masks
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Post by Adler69 on Sept 15, 2010 17:24:26 GMT -5
I have a 1903 so...yeah, anyways the 10pocket belt would be fine, soldiers never were specified to a belt for a gun, at least I think, for higher ranked soldiers I guess but not for privates and such. When a soldier is issued a weapon he is issued the web gear that goes with it , so a rifleman would be issued an M1923 cartridge belt , a soldier who was issued a Thompson , Grease Gun or Carbine would be issued an M1936 pistol belt , you see Magazines for those weapons don't fit in an M1923 Cartridge belt.
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Post by kalbs on Sept 15, 2010 18:20:24 GMT -5
Just a note; your cap is Army style, not USMC. Marine covers were similar but have a flat panel instead of a seem in the middle usually with the EGS printed on it.
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Post by tinydata on Sept 15, 2010 18:23:17 GMT -5
Its supposed to be the Army cap (M1941s were used by USMC plain or with a metal EGA pin) USMC specific caps are the M1944 model, way too late for 1942
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Post by Adler69 on Sept 15, 2010 18:52:20 GMT -5
The M1941 cap is actually what was called "Daisy Mae" , more like the Vietnam war Boonie hat. The Army Cap, Herringbone Twill or "Mechanics" hat is what you'll see in photos and since they where mostly Army issue they did not have the EGA stenciled in , so Mud Marines would pin a metal EGA on to the front. Tinydata has it right . I have a couple of Original ones in really good condition. Again Tinydata , you look great , if i saw you at an event however i would shoot you thinking it was an IJA soldier trying to pull a fast one ;D ;D
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Post by tinydata on Sept 15, 2010 19:07:37 GMT -5
Thanks Adler! LOL my friends all say that. Though when I was in Beijing some random woman said I could pass for Filipino, Malaysian, etc
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Post by 5thrangerbat on Sept 15, 2010 19:26:42 GMT -5
Haha that is why I stay in the ETO
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Post by 10target on Sept 15, 2010 20:10:34 GMT -5
If you wanted a helmet that will go great with your paintball mask you could convert to a Doughboy helmet. I know from playing paintball they work great with the masks. Also you'd have to switch to a Phillipines USMC style like the old John Wayne movie Back to Bataan.
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Post by troyluginbill on Sept 15, 2010 20:53:01 GMT -5
Looks good, you got any canteens and bandage pouch to go with it yet?
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Post by kalbs on Sept 16, 2010 10:41:25 GMT -5
Its supposed to be the Army cap (M1941s were used by USMC plain or with a metal EGA pin) USMC specific caps are the M1944 model, way too late for 1942 Yes, you are correct sir, just being prejudice. It just looks odd having a grunt wear and "army" cap. The cover is such a Marine icon, Semper fi
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Post by tinydata on Sept 16, 2010 14:55:00 GMT -5
Looks good, you got any canteens and bandage pouch to go with it yet? My canteen is on my back, out of sight. I don't have a first aid pouch yet. Here's the list of my gear: Pistol belt M1916 Holster Pistol mag pouch 5 cell Thompson pouch Canteen, cover Wire cutter pouch P41 Suspenders
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Post by 10target on Sept 16, 2010 16:47:50 GMT -5
Is that a custom cyma thompson?
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Post by tinydata on Sept 16, 2010 16:51:00 GMT -5
nope, TM base and CAW kit
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Post by 10target on Sept 16, 2010 17:21:39 GMT -5
Sweet, to bad that stuff has been discontinued or else I would my hands on it...
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Post by gunner on Sept 16, 2010 21:12:07 GMT -5
tinydata, Well, now, lemme take a look here, prepare for inspection by the Gunner. USMC, retired. hmm, looks good, move that ammo pouch over as the good SSgt told you to. Comer, looks good, typical issue of the time before our now glorious 8 point came out. Helmets in combat, yup, majority of the time. many times though, in the jungle, scouts (and I know this by first hand account) would opt to wear the soft cover or even, if they had one, a Daisy Mae. Lookin good young'n, I think I'll pass you for inspection. oh one more thing, DON'T HOLD THE THOMPSON THAT WAY!!! TOO MODERN LOOKING!!! lol
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Post by deacon on Sept 18, 2010 10:34:38 GMT -5
TOO CLEAN!!!
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Post by gunner on Sept 18, 2010 16:11:40 GMT -5
ah, yes, too clean!!! thanks for catching that!! so, go out, roll in the mud, paint some whiskers on ya!!! then report back!!!! lol
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Post by deacon on Sept 18, 2010 17:10:18 GMT -5
Here is what a marine should look like, grubby as hell.
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Post by 10target on Sept 18, 2010 21:14:54 GMT -5
I look pretty decent before going into an airsoft battle, but since I play in dense forest terrain I come out looking like mudmonster.
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Post by heinrich42 on Sept 19, 2010 14:57:29 GMT -5
If you wanted a helmet that will go great with your paintball mask you could convert to a Doughboy helmet. I know from playing paintball they work great with the masks. Also you'd have to switch to a Phillipines USMC style like the old John Wayne movie Back to Bataan. I wouldn't suggest that. For most of the war, you need a front seam, fixed or swivel bale M1 helmet. You'll be fine with the standard high pressure liner (make sure it is WWII style), though you could elect to go with a high pressure liner converted to a Fibre (or "Hawley") liner, especially for earlier events. -Shawn
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Post by 2nd Bat on Sept 19, 2010 18:35:02 GMT -5
You look great. Thanks for sharing and taking the usual nitpicking from the peanut gallery. You've obviously doen your research.
M41 haversack would be anice addition. They usually seem to bring rediculous money on Ebay but once in a while one slips through pretty reasonable.
I have a firnd who just acquired severeal complete sets. (Upper and lowers) He didn't know what he had and I'll probably regret informing him. He thought they were the army ones. (Which don't bring much)
He's probably going to list them now on Ebay.
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Post by tinydata on Jan 3, 2011 20:54:24 GMT -5
A little update on the kit and how skirmishing against those evil modern airsofters has gone. I now use a M1928 Haversack (thanks 2ndBat) instead of the P41 suspenders to go for the early war, mixed equipment look. It also helps to carry supplies in the field. The last game I went to I used a musette bag sort of thing (haven't ID'd it) and it worked wonderfully as a WWII dump pouch. As soon as I exhausted Thompson magazines I tossed them in there. Absolutely invaluable for any WWII airsofter. As for the kit, most people say "hey, that's interesting," "what on earth," or "you look like a North Korean" After seeing it in action, however, one of my friends commented on the simplicity and functionality of old school loadouts. I love gunning with the 1928 and this kit is much faster to run with than my modern set up.
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Post by Colosseum on Jun 29, 2011 22:08:01 GMT -5
Modern gear made of 1000-Denier cordura with velcro and magpul accessories is for idiots.
Real men use cotton-canvas webbing with brass hardware that was manufactured in the 1940s, used through a world war, and is still stronger than anything put out by Condor Outdoor.
Loadout looks great. Just stop holding the Thompson like you're "up in the primary, slaying bodies".
Also, protip for the belt, move the two brass keepers to the extreme end of the doubled-over section of the belt. It will give it a much smarter look and keep it from moving around during use.
Edit: Totally didn't realize this was a necropost to end all necroposts... sorry guys.
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Post by tinydata on Jun 29, 2011 22:28:14 GMT -5
All help is still appreciated haha
I do hold my weapon and move in a more historically correct way now. For one, I don't do all the modern "tactical" stuff anymore. At that point I was brand new to the WWII scene and had no clue haha. I have a M1 helmet coming and plan to get boots and some other gear.
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Post by Colosseum on Jun 29, 2011 23:39:13 GMT -5
Good, because it's generally all bullapplesauce .
Post a photo of your new loadout.
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