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Post by Fusilier on Sept 28, 2010 16:43:04 GMT -5
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Post by whiterook on Sept 28, 2010 20:09:26 GMT -5
Yes he does ... he sums up ...
well actually, in his long dissertation, he explains why ... ;D I don't do many WWII Reenactments anymore and why just this year, at the tender age of 55, I have taken up Airsoft.
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Post by Fusilier on Sept 28, 2010 20:23:51 GMT -5
Yes he does ... he sums up ... well actually, in his long dissertation, he explains why ... ;D I don't do many WWII Reenactments anymore and why just this year, at the tender age of 55, I have taken up Airsoft. >> And I thought I was old! lol! Welcome! I started reenacting in 1989. It's a lot easier now than it was then to get into the hobby,thats for sure. Just a shame,so many do it wrong,or half ass with the wealth of research material and reproductions out there.
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Post by heinrich42 on Sept 28, 2010 20:41:22 GMT -5
Yes he does ... he sums up ... well actually, in his long dissertation, he explains why ... ;D I don't do many WWII Reenactments anymore and why just this year, at the tender age of 55, I have taken up Airsoft. >> And I thought I was old! lol! Welcome! I started reenacting in 1989. It's a lot easier now than it was then to get into the hobby,thats for sure. Just a shame,so many do it wrong,or half ass with the wealth of research material and reproductions out there. You said it! I started Civil War when I was 11 and it took me three events and a bit of online reading to figure out I was doing something wrong. -Shawn
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Post by CharleyNovember on Sept 28, 2010 20:42:02 GMT -5
Somehow I don't see this fellas ideals and yours mixing so well Bob. Just my observations of your posts on here. Nothing wrong with you, you just seem spun up tight and he seems a little less so.
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Post by tinydata on Sept 28, 2010 20:46:57 GMT -5
agreed with the owner...too many people like this both young and old. On the young side you have what we call "codsofters" and on the older side you got guys that want to play "gung-ho commando" on the weekends and show off how little they really know.
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Post by labrador on Sept 29, 2010 6:16:08 GMT -5
When negative thoughts of this hobby fill my mind with doubt about if what i'm doing is politically correct, or relevant, or evil (i play the evil bad guys). I go back to this page: users.livejournal.com/_consume_/135056.htmland like magic, everything is good again. I'm reminded that we shouldn't really take ourselves too seriously. In the end it's all a hobby isn't it. Everyone of us into this for their own reasons. I think there's a lot of space for all us weirdo's.
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Post by Fusilier on Sept 29, 2010 9:14:26 GMT -5
>> And I thought I was old! lol! Welcome! I started reenacting in 1989. It's a lot easier now than it was then to get into the hobby,thats for sure. Just a shame,so many do it wrong,or half ass with the wealth of research material and reproductions out there. You said it! I started Civil War when I was 11 and it took me three events and a bit of online reading to figure out I was doing something wrong. -Shawn >> Some of us learn, some of us don't. I know guys who've been in the hobby for years. They love their A frames and bad Jarnagin uniforms and modern shoes.. They can't change..
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Post by 10target on Sept 29, 2010 12:22:07 GMT -5
For, different people play for different reasons. I personally play for the fun and simple enjoyment of the game, others play to impersonate a WWII soldier to the max and concentrate less on the fun factor. Like he said, just don't jack anyone for it, they do what they do for their reasons, not yours.
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Post by Fusilier on Sept 29, 2010 13:53:14 GMT -5
We ALL have our opinions and are entitled to them. Some are just more accepted than others...
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Post by Gordak on Sept 29, 2010 14:40:35 GMT -5
I think I really play for the breif moments when it "feels" like the real thing. It kinda strikes like Deja vu, just all the sudden you think to yourself "wow that was just like ww2" The more it happens the better but Im content with only getting that feeling once or twice at an event, it's worth it.
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Post by CharleyNovember on Sept 29, 2010 14:46:38 GMT -5
Amen to that Gordak. I like those moments too.
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Post by Fusilier on Sept 29, 2010 15:19:42 GMT -5
I think I really play for the breif moments when it "feels" like the real thing. It kinda strikes like Deja vu, just all the sudden you think to yourself "wow that was just like ww2" The more it happens the better but Im content with only getting that feeling once or twice at an event, it's worth it. >> Its literally been YEARS since I've had that. No chance in airsoft..
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Post by CharleyNovember on Sept 29, 2010 15:24:38 GMT -5
That is sad for you man. Wish you could do that in your head at least.
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Post by 10target on Sept 29, 2010 15:27:50 GMT -5
Yeah, but after you hear the shot some out of your airsoft gun it totally throws it off, or like when someone says "hit" and has to respawn haha. You just don't come across two many realistic moments in airsoft. ALTHOUGH, I did play an escort game on a WWII railroad a few days a go. Me and my friends were trying to escort a fellow Marine POW to safety.
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Post by volkssturm on Sept 29, 2010 15:37:45 GMT -5
I think I really play for the breif moments when it "feels" like the real thing. It kinda strikes like Deja vu, just all the sudden you think to yourself "wow that was just like ww2" The more it happens the better but Im content with only getting that feeling once or twice at an event, it's worth it. Exactly! Besides, I'm doing this for myself. I'm not trying to impress anyone.
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Post by Adler69 on Sept 29, 2010 16:41:00 GMT -5
I think I really play for the breif moments when it "feels" like the real thing. It kinda strikes like Deja vu, just all the sudden you think to yourself "wow that was just like ww2" The more it happens the better but Im content with only getting that feeling once or twice at an event, it's worth it. Had a lot of moments like that in airsoft WWII events , at blank fire events i get those moments a lot.
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Post by Fusilier on Sept 29, 2010 17:05:08 GMT -5
That is sad for you man. Wish you could do that in your head at least. >> Sad you say? Sad is looking over and seeing some guy with a modern flash hider on an STG. Sad is seeing some guy,bigger than Goring in SS dot Sad is seeing someone in modern swamp boots and Vietnam fatigues at a WW2 AS event. Sad is seeing a guy doing GI with an MP-40 after offering a Thompson to him and him turning it down... I can go on... I was at an event 2 weekends ago portraying the American 36th Div. in Italy. All of the guys were wearing the right uniforms and gear,were dirty,unshaven, and stayed in there impression all day. No Gorings,no Women in uniform,just 10 dedicated individuals doing it right! THAT is what its all about!
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Post by heinrich42 on Sept 29, 2010 17:48:14 GMT -5
That is sad for you man. Wish you could do that in your head at least. >> Sad you say? Sad is looking over and seeing some guy with a modern flash hider on an STG. Sad is seeing some guy,bigger than Goring in SS dot Sad is seeing someone in modern swamp boots and Vietnam fatigues at a WW2 AS event. Sad is seeing a guy doing GI with an MP-40 after offering a Thompson to him and him turning it down... I can go on... I was at an event 2 weekends ago portraying the American 36th Div. in Italy. All of the guys were wearing the right uniforms and gear,were dirty,unshaven, and stayed in there impression all day. No Gorings,no Women in uniform,just 10 dedicated individuals doing it right! THAT is what its all about! You said it again, Bob! If you are not interested in portraying a WWII soldier, of any nationality, to some degree of accuracy, then just stick to modern airsoft, paintball, etc. Because, after all, historical airsoft and blank fire are just two different types of reenacting. -Shawn
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Post by Adler69 on Sept 29, 2010 18:00:28 GMT -5
Guys , relax , no one is ever going to be 100% accurate no matter how much you bitch about it . Learn to enjoy the event instead of looking at everyone to try and find what is wrong with their uniform , gear or weapon , you will have more fun that way.
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Post by heinrich42 on Sept 29, 2010 18:05:53 GMT -5
Guys , relax , no one is ever going to be 100% accurate no matter how much you bitch about it . Learn to enjoy the event instead of looking at everyone to try and find what is wrong with their uniform , gear or weapon , you will have more fun that way. We aren't asking for 100% accuracy, just some effort. I don't try to figure out what is wrong with everyone's impression, but the things that Bob said are going to be recognized no matter what. -Shawn
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Post by Adler69 on Sept 29, 2010 18:24:20 GMT -5
So? enjoy the event , after all it's a game .
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Post by CharleyNovember on Sept 29, 2010 20:22:36 GMT -5
annnnd that is the sad part. The inability to enjoy yourselves. If you want 100% accuracy then you run the event, and you demand it, and you send people home. Until then you are just pissing in the wind. I'm sure you can go on Bob(and friend)...you do so frequently.
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Post by Fusilier on Sept 29, 2010 20:31:59 GMT -5
annnnd that is the sad part. The inability to enjoy yourselves. If you want 100% accuracy then you run the event, and you demand it, and you send people home. Until then you are just pissing in the wind. I'm sure you can go on Bob(and friend)...you do so frequently. >> Well,you don't have to worry about that anymore. And no,as Shawn said,we don't DEMAND 100% authenticity,that is impossible. We just would like people to make an effort. I better leave it at that..
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Post by heinrich42 on Sept 29, 2010 20:39:12 GMT -5
annnnd that is the sad part. The inability to enjoy yourselves. If you want 100% accuracy then you run the event, and you demand it, and you send people home. Until then you are just pissing in the wind. I'm sure you can go on Bob(and friend)...you do so frequently. Who said we don't enjoy ourselves? All Bob said was that it has been years since he had a "moment", due largely in part to the low standards at most events. -Shawn P.S. My name is Shawn. I sign it to every post. You can call me by that instead of "and friend".
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Post by whiterook on Sept 29, 2010 20:46:57 GMT -5
I love talking about "magic moments" ... It is the whole reason I do reenacting ... and WWII airsoft ...
Yes I have these moments at airsoft events too ... they are less so, but I do have them ... I just don't let the TBG's and the Flaggrantly Wrong Vietnam guy get in my way ... actually I often strike up a polite conversation and ask them about their impression ... i.e. loadout.
If I get a response that tells me they don't care ... I just walk away ... they are the definition of a farb ... but if I get a guy that let's me know his impression is less than perfect ... I have found a new friend. I ask him about it and he is often very knowlegable about it ... these guys are normally just short of funds.
Well I run off at the mouth too long …
So help me … where did these modern airsofters get the term loadout?
and ...
I'll send you a prize of you know what a TBG is … lol
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Post by 10target on Sept 29, 2010 20:48:39 GMT -5
Just get out there with at least sufficient accurate gear and have fun, that is what is intended to happen. I'm not going to kill anyone for not doing that, just saying I wish they did. And Swawneb, I understand where you are coming from as well, I have a few friends that don't really care about their impression so I'm kind of expecting more out of them from now on, but as long as they have fun it's not that big of a deal.
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Post by CharleyNovember on Sept 29, 2010 20:49:36 GMT -5
"Just my observations of your posts on here." Bob's posts are frequently on the negative side here. Anyone that has read his postings on here for a while can tell he is not a happy camper. I honestly wish he were. I'm sorry you took offence at being refered to as his friend Shawn...lol Again you can bitch and moan about "low standards" at "most" events or you can step up and do your own event where you can control who participates.
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Post by CharleyNovember on Sept 29, 2010 20:52:30 GMT -5
"Yes I have these moments at airsoft events too ... they are less so, but I do have them ... I just don't let the TBG's and the Flaggrantly Wrong Vietnam guy get in my way ... actually I often strike up a polite conversation and ask them about their impression ... i.e. loadout.
If I get a response that tells me they don't care ... I just walk away ... they are the definition of a farb ... but if I get a guy that let's me know his impression is less than perfect ... I have found a new friend. I ask him about it and he is often very knowlegable about it ... these guys are normally just short of funds. " Again this is where I am at. I enjoy my hobby for myself I help those that want help I ignore those that don't care. It works for me.
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Post by 10target on Sept 29, 2010 20:55:50 GMT -5
Shawneb, please. NOT everyone is going to meet your standards. If you want that to happen just take CharleyNovember's advice and organize your own play. If not just remember, it's a whole lot easier to ditch that stuff and have fun.
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