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Post by 506thpir on Feb 9, 2011 22:31:08 GMT -5
Hi everyone,
I just wanted to ask for your opinions on which WW2 air soft gun would be the best choice. Thanks for the help in advance.
So here they are:
-AGM Sten Mk2
-AGM MP44
-King Arms Thompson M1A1
Thanks once again.
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Feb 9, 2011 22:38:35 GMT -5
Depends what impression your doing right?
The King Arms Thompson is the best of the three that you listed though, internally.
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Post by 506thpir on Feb 9, 2011 22:53:22 GMT -5
I have a full 101st Airborne Impression, However I wanted to know if the other 2 air soft guns that I listed were comparable or better than the KA Thompson. I know that I cannot go wrong with it.
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Post by 10target on Feb 9, 2011 23:31:10 GMT -5
Yeah, comparable, but not very much. I was looking into the two earlier but the internal build of AGM is pretty low overall. Take a shot for the KA thompson you won't be disappointed. Good luck!
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Feb 10, 2011 11:20:11 GMT -5
Yep the KA Thompson is the best. From what I gather, It is the same design as the CYMA Thompson, but is upgraded internally. All the trademarks and such are engraved not painted on too.
The MP44 and sten are about equal, the MP44 might be a bit better.
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Post by Rapture on Feb 10, 2011 11:40:43 GMT -5
If your doing 101 you wont want either the sten nor the stg.
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Post by 10target on Feb 10, 2011 16:24:28 GMT -5
Well it could have been picked up after the drop. Soldiers lost their guns, and sometimes picked up German weaponry to accamodate them for the time being.
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Post by FlyingSquirrelcat on Feb 10, 2011 19:47:49 GMT -5
Yeah, It was actually not as common of a thing to have lost your gun on a jump. It's way over played in video games and movies. However, it did happen. A very common thing was to loose rations and perishable supplies on the jump because the Gerry's flooded alot of the roads and such. I remember hearing about a guy who lost all his rations because he landed right in a flooded crossroad. Also, if you did want to do a "captured" weapon type deal, get a K98 or MP40, something that was actually common on the battlefield. But than again, you would have only used the captured weapon until you could have gotten your hand back on a US weapon. In my opinion, Get a M14 and convert it to a Garand or grab the KA Thompson. but that's just my $.02 By the way, the flooding thing is reffering to the Normandy Jump because I noticed your Username was "506PIR"
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Post by 506thpir on Feb 10, 2011 21:14:24 GMT -5
Thank you all for your responses.
I think I will go with the KA Thompson. Do any of you know if there is anything that I should now about before purchasing this gun?
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Post by Rapture on Feb 10, 2011 21:56:27 GMT -5
Do any of you know if there is anything that I should now about before purchasing this gun? Everyone has one. Id go with something different. I myself am grabbing a grease gun once the extra mags are released by ares.
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Post by CharleyNovember on Feb 10, 2011 22:08:56 GMT -5
Carbine is not a horrible choice for a paratrooper but pricey.
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Post by FlyingSquirrelcat on Feb 14, 2011 19:57:55 GMT -5
Carbine is not a horrible choice for a paratrooper but pricey. Especially if you were going RTO or if your interested in doing later war stuff. A garand is always a good choice, so get an M14 and modify it to your pleasing. You could also get a BAR, a 1919A4 if you've got a friend interested in doing an impression with you. Personally though, Get a M3 or an M1A1 carbine(these are the ones with the wire stocks) because they're quality and they're not the average Joe's gun. But than again, the only carbines I've seen are gas. I second Rapture, get an M3
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Post by Fusilier on Feb 14, 2011 20:54:06 GMT -5
Dude ... you are going down the Flaggrantly Wrong road ... do your research ..... >> What he said. STG's weren't used in abundance in France until much later in 1944. Contact me via PM,I have a Thompson and M1911 I would like to sell.
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Post by 506thpir on Feb 15, 2011 20:06:50 GMT -5
Thanks for the offer, but I am not located in the US.
Right now, I am trying to aquire an M14 and modify it into an M1 Garand.
But if I cant, I will get a Thompson
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Post by FlyingSquirrelcat on Feb 15, 2011 22:14:59 GMT -5
Thanks for the offer, but I am not located in the US. I think fusilier lives in New York. Anyway, I agree. I think the M14 is a very good way to go. Get a kit or get the converted model from 2ndbat. Lots of support for anyone who wants an M1 on this website.
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Post by 506thpir on Mar 24, 2011 20:54:47 GMT -5
Hi all,
just had a question regarding the MP44.
Is the cybergun MP44 the same as the AGM. Is the quality identical?
Thanks a lot.
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Post by aj czarkowski on Mar 24, 2011 21:33:20 GMT -5
It could possibly be a copy, Cybergun steals gun ideas from everywhere and just rebrands them. If you're airborne though, go with the Thompson, or make a custom M1 Garand if your good at that stuff. If you want you can try to find a pre built one here that's how I got mine.
I wouldn't get a stolen weapon if I were you though, they were used but only for a short time untill they could get another US one. It would also be kind of hard to find ammo for a stolen gun and during the jump it would kind of be wierd if you started with it.
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Post by 506thpir on Mar 24, 2011 21:43:11 GMT -5
Thanks for the info.
Yeah, I am getting an M14 which I will convert later on. I agree with what you are saying.
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Mar 25, 2011 9:26:44 GMT -5
Yep the Cybergun MP44 is the same as the AGM one, its just a rebrand. I'd suggest a CYMA M14 for a conversion, good luck.
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Post by 506thpir on Mar 25, 2011 16:54:56 GMT -5
thanks for the info.
I had a question:
Is it possible to convert the AGM M14 to an M1 Garand?
I havent heard a lot of positive remarks about it anyways, but I was just curious.
Thanks.
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Mar 25, 2011 17:36:35 GMT -5
Yep its possible. Some process as the CYMA. I used an AGM for mine. The ones that are best suited for the conversion are CYMA, Tokyo Marui, UTG, AGM, or Kart. G&G and Classic Army are superior to all the Tokyo Marui clones I mentioned however they cannot take shot gun mags, leaving you with the unrealistic looking M14 magazine. AGM M14s are ok but the CYMA shoots a bit nicer and is also a bit nicer externally. Its only about $30 more.
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Post by jettalewis on Mar 25, 2011 18:18:47 GMT -5
This is so what I love about this site. A question was asked and answered. Then the question was expanded and asked again. Yet again and again all of the answers were spot on and covered other possibilities and finally the thread came to a great conclusion. No bickering, no name calling, no trying to make someone feel 'dumb'. Thanks fellows for making this such a great site to visit. And I promise...you have all saved me a buncha money from not making stupid buys.
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Post by 506thpir on Mar 25, 2011 18:26:34 GMT -5
Agreed. The kindness of the members on this forum is something that is needed on other forums.
Thanks Sgttom for the information.
Are Shot gun mags compatible with the AGM as well?
Thanks again.
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Mar 25, 2011 19:23:25 GMT -5
Yep the shotgun magazines will work with the AGM model. This is so what I love about this site. A question was asked and answered. Then the question was expanded and asked again. Yet again and again all of the answers were spot on and covered other possibilities and finally the thread came to a great conclusion. No bickering, no name calling, no trying to make someone feel 'dumb'. Thanks fellows for making this such a great site to visit. And I promise...you have all saved me a buncha money from not making stupid buys. Thanks for the compliment. I try to be as helpful as possible.
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Post by aj czarkowski on Mar 25, 2011 22:24:21 GMT -5
Agreed. The kindness of the members on this forum is something that is needed on other forums. Thanks Sgttom for the information. Are Shot gun mags compatible with the AGM as well? Thanks again. All the Tokyo Marui clones are compatible with the shotgun clips. You just need to get a saw to make a dent into the back of it for the mag catch, without that they won't load or you have to hold them upside down. But even sometimes you have to hold the modified clips in place, I never figured that one out. I guess the springs are REALLY weak.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Apr 12, 2011 22:43:38 GMT -5
The two critical steps for making the 870 shotgun clips work is to file down or cut off the rim around the feed outlet so the top of the clip is completely flat. (Take care to first push in the plunger nipple so you don't cut that off!) Then install a thin tab to the front of the clip (ABS glue) so it is held in place properly inside the mag well and finally file or cut a notch in the back for the mag release. I add small sidewalls on the clips so they don't wiggle at all inside the mag well and because I like the way they look (like "enblock clips") These side walls are roughly the thickness of credit cards and I make them out of thin sheets of ABS plastic and like the front tab attach them with ABS cement. There is a full tutorial with pictures in the technical section. They require a little fiddling with from the perspective of filing and sanding to the correct size but once completed, work wonderfully well. Unlike the M14 magazines they do not protrude from the base of the gun and consistently fire 12 to 13 rounds. (Two to 3 BB always drop out during reloads due to the gap between the clip and the tappet plate inside the rifle.)
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