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Post by frankieba5 on Oct 10, 2012 14:41:54 GMT -5
Where Ghillie Suits used in WW2  If so could I wear one to a battle? |
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Post by brownien on Oct 10, 2012 15:05:07 GMT -5
Not exactly sure, Russians snipers may have worn some type of impromptu ghillie-like garb attached to their kit, but nothing decisive was shown in a google search. Maybe the use of netting with burlap and twigs etc. tied in and used as a camoflage blanket. Possibly by dug in Germans or Americans in the Bulge, but most likely not worn as a full body suit for manouvers. Just my $0.02
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Post by tango on Oct 10, 2012 19:20:23 GMT -5
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Post by brownien on Oct 10, 2012 23:06:36 GMT -5
Yup! just cover yourself in glue and jump in a haystack comrade! lol ;D
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Post by 2nd Bat on Oct 11, 2012 0:04:11 GMT -5
Guillie suits were a pre-ww1 creation and saw limited use in the great war. Surprisingly this did not carry over into ww2 to the degree that you are perhaps invisioning. There is no doubt whatsoever that soldiers from every army used expeditious means to utilize foliage and other camouflage techniques to break up their silhouette but not formalized suits per se. A gillie suit I believe would be decidedly inappropriate for ww2. Anything that could have been done no doubt was but a gillie suit would be so rare as to be on par with wearing real tree modern camouflage. if you want to depict a ww2 look dont even think about a gillie.
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Post by frankieba5 on Oct 11, 2012 6:17:13 GMT -5
Yeah, I guess that seems reasonable. Thanks for the picture BTW.
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Post by gadge on Oct 13, 2012 6:13:32 GMT -5
Ghilli suits predate WWI, they were used by Scottish gamekeepers to track poachers on British lords estates. It's where the name 'ghillie' comes from. There is next to no use of them in WWI, snipers tended to be either quite overt and hide behind steel plate shutters with 'loopholes' and wear re-enforced body armour or they would use basic natural camouflage like hiding under piles of hay as said *or* they went to stupid lengths and built fake trees and fake dead horses to hide in and fire out of. The traditonal 'ghillie' was rarely used. In WWII it was used by the British line infantry (to a degree) and by the home guard (who made shapeless suits out of sandbags). The germans didnt do it at all, the US didnt do it to my knoweldge and the japanese *almost* went there by making cloaks threaded with foliage and liberally covering helmets. i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb205/HGPete/Ghillie001.jpgBrit home guard style suit. The russian suits pictures btw are just recce oversuits, called 'amoeba' pattern, they are just camoflage oversuits used by recce troops and assault engineers. Some suits has small patchs of fake grass attached and rolls of fake grass matting were made to wrap around snipers but 'ghillie' suits as we know them were not used. Closest you'll get are WWII British snipers. Some looked like this 24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m5k8jth1de1rrjpupo1_1280.jpgand canadians, as they used british tactics and (mostly brit) kit they looked the same media-cache-ec4.pinterest.com/upload/141230138285473001_ia70PST8_c.jpgFamous picture of a british sniper using german camo gear and ghillie head. img835.imageshack.us/img835/6426/b0081770iq0xq.jpgItsunkwon if he fought in this or was being 'opposing forces' for training. It would have made no difference him using captured kit in the field as he would have been killed as a sniper anyway if caught.... great thread here on the kit and equipment of UK snipers. Its a toy soldier forum but the info is taken from a first hand interview with an infantry sniper. www.onesixthwarriors.com/forum/sixth-scale-action-figure-news-reviews-discussion/80746-british-sniper-1944-45-a.html |
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Post by brownien on Jan 2, 2013 17:54:15 GMT -5
I thought this would be the best place to add this;
I just aquired a ghillie suit made from M65 woodland jacket and pants from a friend. He covered the pants with netting and tied burlap strips into it. The jacket has the burlap strips simply glued onto it and has the same effect as the netting, but is the lazy way out. ;D I was wondering if this would be a good uniform to wear for a british sniper, as the M65 woodland jacket seems to be a good substitute for the Denison Smock (with all that burlap on it of course!). I was planning to use a M1917 brodie covered in more burlap to finish it off.
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If so could I wear one to a battle?
