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Post by rzm on Sept 21, 2013 9:35:54 GMT -5
What spring would you recommend for the dboys 98k..I'm looking for 600fps if that's even possible..any recommendations would be appreciated..
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Post by shiftysgarand on Sept 21, 2013 17:45:24 GMT -5
Why do you need 600 Fps? With the accuracy and range limitations of the dboys k98 that's serious overkill. I believe it takes AEG springs. Not sure though.
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Post by rzm on Sept 21, 2013 18:23:47 GMT -5
I'd like to make it a sniper rifle. I'd like to get distance out of it. Certainly not for close range..I saw a gas one from the UK where a tanaka zf41scope was mounted in a sniper format. I know the range and accuracy is limited on this rifle. The one I have is a spring model and wanted to know if I could get better distance out of it with by changing the spring in the bolt.
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Post by brownien on Sept 21, 2013 20:18:38 GMT -5
I really wouldn't bother. To get 600fps out of a Dboys, you would need a new one piece barrel, and modify that barrel to fit. You would need to upgrade the spring to something that you would barely be able to cock and have the power to output 600fps, with the extra power to overcome the massive air leaks at both ends of the shells. Even if you do manage to get it shooting even close to 500fps, you are very likely to break any number of things, that aren't designed or capable of withstanding that much stress. The bolt handle could break, the trigger sear would shear off eventually, the reciever would warp and wear from the added stress of forcing the bolt forward. This would eventually cause the bolt to break or not stay in the gun when you pull it back.
I would highly reccomend, either a VSR-10 conversion to be done on your Dboys, or a gas powered kar98k. I planned on getting the Redfire gas Kar98k, but im will have to wait because of a lack of funds. There is a review of the gun on here, and it showed that the gun's mags are consistant for the first 30 shots, and averages in the high 400's in fps.
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Post by stuka on Sept 21, 2013 22:15:14 GMT -5
most fields don't even allow 600, it's typically 500 and on occasion 550 but i have never seen 600, on another note, fps ≠ range, tm's have low fps and can reach pretty far
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Post by roma on Sept 21, 2013 22:19:41 GMT -5
I really wouldn't bother. To get 600fps out of a Dboys, you would need a new one piece barrel, and modify that barrel to fit. You would need to upgrade the spring to something that you would barely be able to cock and have the power to output 600fps, with the extra power to overcome the massive air leaks at both ends of the shells. Even if you do manage to get it shooting even close to 500fps, you are very likely to break any number of things, that aren't designed or capable of withstanding that much stress. The bolt handle could break, the trigger sear would shear off eventually, the reciever would warp and wear from the added stress of forcing the bolt forward. This would eventually cause the bolt to break or not stay in the gun when you pull it back. I would highly reccomend, either a VSR-10 conversion to be done on your Dboys, or a gas powered kar98k. I planned on getting the Redfire gas Kar98k, but im will have to wait because of a lack of funds. There is a review of the gun on here, and it showed that the gun's mags are consistant for the first 30 shots, and averages in the high 400's in fps. Yes, and with that spring the topic starter has to make a new bolt body from steel because the original one made form alloy breaks easily. |
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Post by 2nd Bat on Sept 21, 2013 22:21:31 GMT -5
Brownien is spot on. The D Boys design is not going to facilitate much above the pathetic performance it provides out of the box. Even if it did you would still face all the limitations of the ejecting shells. It appears there are viable alternatives in the production pipeline. The concept of course for airsoft "snipers" is so laughable that i further recommend you, rethink your plan. The range and accuracy limitations for even the most powerful and precise airsoft weapons will never provide anything that could even remotely represent a "SNIPER" in the truest sense of the term.
A scope on an airsoft rifle is like a rear wing on a compact car. Not really functional to any extent.
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Post by rzm on Sept 22, 2013 8:05:08 GMT -5
Awesome guys,thank you for the replies and advice. In case you couldn't tell I'm new to the sport lol..I put more research into my axis impression than the rifle is be carrying..live and learn. Thanks again.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Sept 22, 2013 11:04:59 GMT -5
Buy someones conversion of an actual Mauser or DBoys that uses the VSR bolt action springer as the base. These work quite well and look quite passable. Often they are sold at rediculously cheap prices given the work they require. The other viable candidate are the new Red Fire, TANAKA gas KAR knock offs which if they are true replicas of the Tanaka should be excellent. These however just came out and I for one am awaiting reviews hopefully from some of our members brave enough to give them a try.
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Post by brownien on Sept 23, 2013 19:30:01 GMT -5
I was ready to buy one of them, but as soon as I got the money to grab one, they were sold out! I ordered my other items anyway, and as soon as that shipped, i got an update showing them back in stock! rotten luck!
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Post by rzm on Sept 24, 2013 5:42:17 GMT -5
I both regret getting this rifle,and am glad. It's useless for airsoft. The shells don't always eject,or feed correct. I adjusted the z spring and have it feeding correct. Bit some of the shells stick in the barrel. I think that there's debris just before the barrel. Looks that way. Or...the catch on the bolt isn't always latching to the shell. However,where I reenact, it's a great looking rifle. And it also gives me a chance to customize a inexpensive rifle.
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Post by brownien on Sept 24, 2013 5:57:33 GMT -5
It is a nice rifle for plinking or for the realism of the shell ejecting, but even if you have plenty of shells, you will be too busy worrying about jams/picking up spent ones rather than shooting. Even if you did get close enough to hit something, you would be in an even more mess of trouble trying to function the rifle and hit opponents. It's good for reenactments, but don't be dissapointed if you try to use it and you spend 90% of your time at an event being "dead" or trying to get it to work.
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Post by rzm on Sept 24, 2013 7:18:13 GMT -5
On a side note and slightly off topic, I'm now thinking of an ares ppsh41. The Germans on the Ost front often tossed their mp40s in favor of the ppsh. They loved them. Reliable,and large capacity. I'll post a new thread on this topic so this one can stay on point.
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