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Post by IwoJima3823 on Oct 4, 2013 17:52:35 GMT -5
I am looking for a WWII USMC airsoft reenactment group near Paoli, PA.
Info: I am 14 years old as of 10/4/2013.
I am great at airsoft and take it seriously (I just act how I would if I was in combat).
I love WWII.
I am enlisting for the Marine Corps at 17 for 0311, infantry.
I can adapt to my surroundings very quickly.
I am a team player.
And I will never leave a fallen comrade.
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Post by shiftysgarand on Oct 4, 2013 19:31:48 GMT -5
As far as I know, there are no USMC groups in the NE. The problem I see is there are no Japanese to fight. I would go first with a generic US infantry impression. However, if you can get more people into it (friends), particularly if you can get some Japanese, I'd say go for it.
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Post by aj czarkowski on Oct 4, 2013 20:21:01 GMT -5
I have a WW2 Marine impression but I don't think there's any groups for it in the entire country lol. The main problem is exactly what Shifty said, nobody does Japan. There are no Japanese airsoft guns, and even though their uniforms aren't that expensive, US Marine ones are. There's a lot of problems
Just out of curiosity, are you a cadet?
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Post by stuka on Oct 4, 2013 23:01:55 GMT -5
I have IJA but I am in florida lol. Just take off a usmc cover(from helm if you have one) and that should be good for a infantry kit
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Post by shiftysgarand on Oct 5, 2013 11:34:56 GMT -5
Tanaka makes some gas Ariakas in the $800 range, and KTW has some LMGs for like $3000. Japanese guns exist, but are extremely expensive.
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Post by aj czarkowski on Oct 5, 2013 11:51:09 GMT -5
Neither are in production anyways, I'd bet they made like 50 Arisaka rifles and maybe 3 or 4 LMG's (Which is probably just how much they had in real life ) The USMC uniforms were a lot different from the Army's, there's a lot more to it than the helmet cover. Especially considering their insignia is on most of their equipment
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Post by stuka on Oct 5, 2013 12:09:12 GMT -5
there were more lmgs then that >.> anyways, unlike the rifles the lmgs are pretty bad performance wise, they use an aep gearbox so uh yeah, people wil only buy those for looks
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Post by IwoJima3823 on Oct 5, 2013 15:49:29 GMT -5
I have a WW2 Marine impression but I don't think there's any groups for it in the entire country lol. The main problem is exactly what Shifty said, nobody does Japan. There are no Japanese airsoft guns, and even though their uniforms aren't that expensive, US Marine ones are. There's a lot of problems Just out of curiosity, are you a cadet? Negative, I am not a Cadet, I am just devoted to the Corps.
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Post by bloodandguts5150 on Oct 5, 2013 16:08:01 GMT -5
Neither are in production anyways, I'd bet they made like 50 Arisaka rifles and maybe 3 or 4 LMG's (Which is probably just how much they had in real life ) The USMC uniforms were a lot different from the Army's, there's a lot more to it than the helmet cover. Especially considering their insignia is on most of their equipment USMC insignia is mostly hidden on actual USMC gear. The only thing the EGA is visible on is the utility tops. Hell they used a lot of army gear anyways, and even used army uniforms from time to time. An accurate USMC impression can include army: canteen covers, first aid pouches, gas mask bags, pistol belts, shovel covers, compass pouches, map cases, etc. It doesn't have to be stamped USMC for a Marine impression, regardless of what the "experts" say. I'm tired of the cookie cutter/everything matching/branch specific crap with the reenacting world. The Marines were at the bottom of the supply chain in the pacific and used what ever they could get their hands on. To honor those who fought and died in the pacific is to do it right, to do it right is to go against the norm.
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Post by aj czarkowski on Oct 5, 2013 20:11:05 GMT -5
I'm not an expert or anything, I thought after the earlier battles such as Makin or Guadalcanal the USMC started issuing mostly their own gear (correct me if I'm wrong)
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Post by bloodandguts5150 on Oct 5, 2013 23:21:28 GMT -5
Sorry czarkowski, the expert comment wasn't a jab at you in particular, more of a general statement. Towards the end of the war yea mostly USMC gear was used, but army gear was still acquired and used. A few things were strictly Marine contract throughout the whole war from Guadalcanal through Okinawa, like packs, suspenders, shoes, uniforms, the like. However individual Marines would sometimes trade for or 'acquire' army uniforms gear for personal use. In reality, most of the common web gear used by either service is identical in dimension and functionality, with the exception of the canteen covers and pack systems. So it didn't make a difference to the Marines using the gear, as long as it functioned it was good. But one thing to keep in mind, study photos from the war. That's your best bet, and the way I see it, they're also your backup when someone tells you what you're doing never happened. US Army impressions are pretty straight forward, nearly every soldier in the same unit had the same gear as the next guy, depending on weapon (BAR gunner obviously would have a BAR belt and not a rifle belt). The Marines were different, the gear was relatively the same but patterns or contracted gear may vary from Marine to Marine. It wasn't as cookie cutter as many like to believe.
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Post by bloodandguts5150 on Oct 5, 2013 23:37:59 GMT -5
Tarawa is a gleaming example of a hodge podge of various gear issued/used. But still, rely on actual photographs of real Marines in combat. In fact, there is a photo of a Marine on Tarawa wearing his M1 helmet backwards, not saying you should wear your helmet backwards, but if I were to see you doing it I wouldn't say a word about it being wrong, since there is photographic evidence of it happening. My only impression is USMC, from the khaki shirt and dungarees, frog skins, to straight forward dungarees. I have a mix of gear, 3 USMC canteen covers (2 2nd pat 1 3rd pat) and 3 original army contract covers (they randomly get thrown into my 'kit') as well as an original army contract pistol belt (clearly marked US on the left side of the buckle) and a beat up original US Army hbt shirt (2nd pat, OD. 1st pat were sage green like dungarees) that occasionally gets thrown in as well with my worn out dungaree trousers. Another great picture I stumbled upon somewhere was that of a Marine on Okinawa who added a third canteen cover to his pistol belt, and it was clearly an army contract cover. So not to beat a dead horse, but rely on period pictures above anything else. They tell the truth as to what was actually used.
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Post by aj czarkowski on Oct 6, 2013 14:31:29 GMT -5
Very good information, I guess my USMC impression is more accurate then I thought. Most of it I believe is army. I was hoping for a Guadalcanal airsoft event, but of course that's probably not going to happen
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Post by 2nd Bat on Oct 6, 2013 21:27:47 GMT -5
i have said this before and I will repeat it. The PTO is actually a better theater to depict for airsoft then Europe as the combat tended to involve small unit engagements at close range that were fought to the death.
The lack of Japanese weapons however is a real challenge at present.
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Post by stuka on Oct 6, 2013 21:42:13 GMT -5
Bolt actions can take the place of arisakas and with teh new red fire mosin's and their kar those would be more suitable, I plan on getting the mosin and using it as a japanese capture
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Post by aj czarkowski on Oct 7, 2013 19:04:17 GMT -5
i have said this before and I will repeat it. The PTO is actually a better theater to depict for airsoft then Europe as the combat tended to involve small unit engagements at close range that were fought to the death. The lack of Japanese weapons however is a real challenge at present. I realized that too! And especially since most of the ww2 airsoft events are in the woods and not in an urban setting. Also, smaller squads organized in a similar way to actual Marine tactics (three teams of three) instead of the larger four teams of four that the Army used. I would definitely be up for a PTO event any day, as that is what got me interested in WW2 in the first place. Now that I know USMC uniforms weren't as "perfect" as I thought, I'm actually surprised there hasn't been an early war PTO event. A minimal Japanese uniform doesn't cost that much either (just the basics), so I guess the biggest problem is we have no Japanese weaponry at all
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Post by 2nd Bat on Oct 7, 2013 20:01:30 GMT -5
Indeed a small PTO event could be held in a fairly tiny area with a hodgepodge of shallow trenches and bunkers or a gravel pit would work well.
Weapons will no doubt be the biggest deterent to them being held at least or a while. Reasonable proximity for the IJA uniforms could be created with some judicious shopping at thrift shops. A proper helmet or head gear and wrapped ace bandages for putees would look decent at a glance.
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Post by stuka on Oct 7, 2013 20:11:50 GMT -5
I got a uniform set and puttees for i think around 110$ from hiki so...
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