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Post by sgtkillroy1944 on Oct 6, 2013 19:18:52 GMT -5
Howdy Folks,thought id post of pic of me in one of my ww2 loadouts, I just been wondering if the m42 helmet im wearing in the photo looks off to any of ya fellas? I got it a While back and have heard mixed feedback on the helmets shape? But when i look at another photo of an m42 i cant really tell the difference? What is Your opinion?
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Post by sgtkillroy1944 on Oct 6, 2013 19:30:39 GMT -5
Some more pics
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Oct 7, 2013 12:54:31 GMT -5
Yeah it might be poorly shaped. The top part looks a bit too high and the bottom part a bit too short.
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Post by sgtkillroy1944 on Oct 7, 2013 20:19:40 GMT -5
Thanks for the feed back man,i guess it'll have ta due for now... darn
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Post by brownien on Oct 7, 2013 20:34:46 GMT -5
You could try to flare it further yourself, if you can access a metal rolling wheel
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Oct 7, 2013 21:11:10 GMT -5
Probably wouldn't be worth the effort seeing you can get a great repro M42 for $100 shipped.
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Post by gunslinginotaku on Oct 8, 2013 0:48:08 GMT -5
Probably wouldn't be worth the effort seeing you can get a great repro M42 for $100 shipped. I got mine for $65
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Oct 8, 2013 8:15:17 GMT -5
You can shop around, I'd rather get one from a place I know they will be good.
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Post by sgtkillroy1944 on Oct 8, 2013 10:43:53 GMT -5
That all being said where would yall say is the best place to pick up better repro, than this lemon?
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Post by volkssturm on Oct 8, 2013 11:52:36 GMT -5
Or just put a helmet cover on it. Anyway, I took the liberty of pasting your pic next to another pic of an M42 helmet. I'm not seeing much difference.
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Post by shiftysgarand on Oct 8, 2013 17:29:12 GMT -5
Yeah, yours is slightly disformed. The bottom part is not flat enough.
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Post by Sgt_Tom on Oct 8, 2013 17:35:09 GMT -5
Or just put a helmet cover on it. Anyway, I took the liberty of pasting your pic next to another pic of an M42 helmet. I'm not seeing much difference. Not really the same angle. The difference isn't huge but I still say the proportions are off. The distance from the place where the helmet starts to bend out in the middle to the end looks shorter then an original, and the top half possibly taller. That all being said where would yall say is the best place to pick up better repro, than this lemon? I doubt its a lemon. Some repros just aren't as authentic as others. I am guessing this one wasn't based directly off an original, like it should have been. Anyhow the difference isn't huge and can't be noticed unless its inspected closely. Its up to you. Depends how picky you want to be.
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Post by aj czarkowski on Oct 8, 2013 19:32:44 GMT -5
It looks as if it doesn't bend outward as much as the original, it only bends slightly.
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Post by volkssturm on Oct 8, 2013 21:11:53 GMT -5
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Post by sgtkillroy1944 on Oct 10, 2013 10:35:50 GMT -5
Thanks for all the help folks,got my question answered!, ehh i guess all just deal with it for right now and try to disregard my ocd for authenticity ( :
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Post by 2nd Bat on Oct 10, 2013 12:03:40 GMT -5
This was a very informative thread. I had no ides there was so much detail on German helmets although it shouldn't surprise me as we tend to be a pretty Obsessive group. The Geman helmet is iconic. in the course of airsoft skirmising the enemy is usually a fleeting vision seen briefly, partially and at a distance. i remeber the first WW2 airsof event I went to put on by Battlesim. There were perhaps 25 of us in total and the impressions were quite dreadful by todays expectations but I'll never forget the excitment of seeing the "enemy" in grey with the distinguishable outline of a Kraut helmet or peaked hat and the emotions it evoked.
Your helmet would have generated that response just fine.
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Post by volkssturm on Oct 11, 2013 11:13:25 GMT -5
I think it was in "A Rumor of War" that Marine officer tells his men, "Remember, all your equipment was made by the lowest bidder." So, if anyone says your helmet doesn't look right, just say "Es wurde vom niedrigsten Bewerber gebildet." {Disclaimer: that's a machine translation, so don't blame me if it's wrong. )
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 9, 2013 17:13:16 GMT -5
Add some chicken wire or a strap with some camo brush and I truly doubt anyone will have isues with it. It is a far sight better then most folks around here have.
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Post by shiftsup on Dec 10, 2013 14:30:04 GMT -5
It looks a wee bit off. It's an SS helmet, get a cover for it. If it matters, don't bother with chicken wire / bread bag strap or some type of disruptive earth tone camo paint scheme since that was rarely done in the SS.
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Post by sgtkillroy1944 on Dec 17, 2013 22:55:24 GMT -5
Yeah i recently got my got the opportunity to check out an authentic WW2 kraut m42 helmet a friends grandfather brought back as a souvenir , yeah its a tad deformed but , itll do all just pick up a better reproduction one of these days and in the mean time throw a helmet cover it or something.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 17, 2013 23:14:50 GMT -5
were the Ss helmets black when not under a camo cover or jst a dark dark grey? In the picture it looks black. I thought that was just a ceremonial deal? In photos from ss units n the Ardennes it does seem that a high percentage of the SS unit helmets had covers but a lot without appeared to be camo ainted as well...no?
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Post by volkssturm on Dec 18, 2013 17:00:26 GMT -5
Don't know for sure, but I thought the classic glossy black SS helmets you see in pictures and films of ceremonies were actually light weight parade helmets, not intended for combat.
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Post by shiftysgarand on Dec 18, 2013 17:02:57 GMT -5
Gloss is generally not a good idea in combat. It undermines any camouflage you have on.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 18, 2013 18:35:13 GMT -5
so from further research it appears the helmet finish varied greatly and the most common shade was a greyish green. Over time textured finish was added (not unlike the cork / sand on our steel pots to reduce glare and the hemets were often over sprayed for enhanced camouflage. Quite common apparently on the western front especially in the Normandy area. Paints ranged from patches of their desert yellow and green over the grey to white washed finishes where appropriate. These were field expedient efforts so in some cases brush painted while other times sprayed. This suggests a lot of latitude which is great.
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Post by ssgjoe on Feb 8, 2014 6:13:15 GMT -5
Ir is a bit off, but that's ok for the M42 model as there were so many misstamped M42 helmets. You could find ventilator lugs uneven: one really high, one really low. There were other common problems. I have OCD for authenticity myself, but something like this wont bother me. As i said, the M42 had many helmets that had manufacturing fkaws, but they were still uses on tge firkd. Continue to use it. It's fine. It's unique, and definitely represents the imperfevt helmets out there that were used by soldats. It might even be more accurate to your unit as a whole to wear it. I would still use it.
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Post by ssgjoe on Feb 8, 2014 6:17:48 GMT -5
And it's imperfection isn't even that bad.
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