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Post by Jerry-ADK on Dec 20, 2013 15:03:56 GMT -5
Maybe some of the money you save from not having a hotel room you could kick to Brownien for putting this event on. He is asking a ridiculously low entrance fee, and he will need money to pay for all that karosine and gas and food he is giving you. Plus all of his time to organize this thing and make it happen. The Operation Woodsman event in Ontario costs $60, I still think that is cheap for all that they do. He would have more money to put towards future events. I would gladly give him $30 for this, and I probably will give him at least that. Something to think about, anyway.
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Post by shiftysgarand on Dec 20, 2013 15:34:35 GMT -5
Jerry, that would be wonderful if you would let us do that! It's already going to be really expensive just for gas for the guys coming from Michigan and fora hotel room too would just be a major pain so if your in-laws are fine with it, the Michigan group might just want to do that. I'll talk it over with shifty but thanks a lot for the offer! Like I said, you guys are welcome to stay with me at my in-laws. I still will have to run it by them first to make sure. I'll call them tonight. Im sure they will say yes, my father-in-law loves history. And he is very willing to support my odd hobbies. He is very cool, its just the mother-in-law we have to worry about, hehe. I am putting this out there to all of you even if for some reason I cant make it to the event I will try to drive down and unlock it and give you a key so you can use it. I know you are all really responsible people and serious about your hobby. I want to help support WW2airsoft any way I can, I have allot invested so far. And this is a very cool community and i'm glad to play a part. And putting you guys up for the weekend is preferable to a criminal negligence suit and prison. So any one needing a place to crash on Friday or Saturday night please PM me and I will give you my number to call and driving directions. Its very easy to find, right off Rout 7 just off the North Way or 87. And very easy in the dark, its all major roads. Very close to Albany international airport. and the Amtrack is walking distance almost. I have skated to it before in my younger days, lol! So cab fairs would light getting there. And I think the Greyhound station is very close too. I could Probably pick people up at the airport or where ever on friday, because I will come down in the morning, and it will take me about 2 and a half hours to get there. So I can try to get there early if anyone needs picking up. I really want to help you guys save money too, so you can put it back into your kits. Maybe soon enough this wont be an issue if you have a extra $100 bucks to put towards a pup tent or Zelt bahn. Then we could sleep in our positions and hold the line for the night. Cheers, Jer Thank you so much Jer! Just want to make sure you'll be there when we arrive, we'll be arriving around 3 am. Can you please pm me the number/ directions? Thanks, Shifty
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Post by ScottCollins on Dec 20, 2013 15:35:41 GMT -5
That's actually what I was planning on doing. Also for any American that wants a really nice side arm, get the KJW Co2 blowback 1911. I left mine out in 33F and sadly rain here for an hour and still performed decently.
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Post by Jerry-ADK on Dec 20, 2013 15:50:24 GMT -5
Like I said, you guys are welcome to stay with me at my in-laws. I still will have to run it by them first to make sure. I'll call them tonight. Im sure they will say yes, my father-in-law loves history. And he is very willing to support my odd hobbies. He is very cool, its just the mother-in-law we have to worry about, hehe. I am putting this out there to all of you even if for some reason I cant make it to the event I will try to drive down and unlock it and give you a key so you can use it. I know you are all really responsible people and serious about your hobby. I want to help support WW2airsoft any way I can, I have allot invested so far. And this is a very cool community and i'm glad to play a part. And putting you guys up for the weekend is preferable to a criminal negligence suit and prison. So any one needing a place to crash on Friday or Saturday night please PM me and I will give you my number to call and driving directions. Its very easy to find, right off Rout 7 just off the North Way or 87. And very easy in the dark, its all major roads. Very close to Albany international airport. and the Amtrack is walking distance almost. I have skated to it before in my younger days, lol! So cab fairs would light getting there. And I think the Greyhound station is very close too. I could Probably pick people up at the airport or where ever on friday, because I will come down in the morning, and it will take me about 2 and a half hours to get there. So I can try to get there early if anyone needs picking up. I really want to help you guys save money too, so you can put it back into your kits. Maybe soon enough this wont be an issue if you have a extra $100 bucks to put towards a pup tent or Zelt bahn. Then we could sleep in our positions and hold the line for the night. Cheers, Jer Thank you so much Jer! Just want to make sure you'll be there when we arrive, we'll be arriving around 3 am. Can you please pm me the number/ directions? Thanks, Shifty 03:00 on Saturday, I will be sleeping but I will be there. You can call me to wake me up I guess, or just bang on the door really loud. I'll leave a "Achtung minen"sign on the door so you know you got the right place.
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Post by LϟϟAH1944 on Dec 20, 2013 16:46:19 GMT -5
Is anybody else planning on digging a foxhole and sleeping there or am I the only insane guy here? I guess its a bit better when you got a Kharkov...
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Post by Jerry-ADK on Dec 20, 2013 17:23:45 GMT -5
Is anybody else planning on digging a foxhole and sleeping there or am I the only insane guy here? I guess its a bit better when you got a Kharkov... I would encourage every one to do that, or stay with me at my in laws. They said it was alright by the way. Just dont sleep in the carbon monoxide filled tent of death. I will get a contact number out soon and get you guys the address so you can look it up on Google Maps to get driving directions. Easier than me trying to give you directions. I havnt lived down there since I was in High school, but its real easy to find, just off rout 7 in Schenectady before you cross Balltown Road.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 20, 2013 19:06:39 GMT -5
I absolutely agree with the kick in a little extra dough for Brownien because $20.00 won't begin to cover his actual costs for putting this on.
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Post by brownien on Dec 21, 2013 12:04:41 GMT -5
Aw thanks guys! But I only really require the entry fee from all those attending. I really enjoy putting on events, as it's the challenge of setting up and planning, as well as orchestrating durring that I enjoy!
If I can get my hands on an electric heater, I wouldn't mind running a generator durring the night if need be. I would much rather do that, than risk anyone's health! I can most likely run the generator in a small enclosure far away from the warning tent, to knock the sound down, and run a long lead to the heater. No risk of CO build up and everyone's warm! I will be using the salimander heater durring the day, but the tent will be open, with plenty of ventilation, as I suspect people will be in and out of there a lot.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 21, 2013 14:57:50 GMT -5
Indeed open flap is the way to use that type of heater and only when people are awake. People planning on staying in the tent (or in a foxhole) will need to be well prepared to stay dry and off the ground. Sleeping in the elements in the Winter although a highly emmersive experience is not wise if you are ill prepared. Unwise even if you are in my opinion but thats just because I'm old and I have done it a lot! It is not an exaggeration that there were more casualties at the real Battle of The Bulge to sickness and the elements then direct combat. Winter is a casualty producer just ask the soldiers at Stalingrad. Lets be sure to stay healthy and have fun.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 21, 2013 15:53:41 GMT -5
My US weapons and equipment cache is quite large and versatile but if someone needing a US set up has an especially unique requirement (extremely small or extremely large) let me know now so we can specifcally insure we are going to be able to facilitate you and I can specify what will be assigned to you. For Germans things are far more limited and less complete but on a first come basis here is what I can supply: I have currently two German helmets, two splinter pattern zelt bahns one oak smock (XL) one over white poncho and one mouse grey poncho. In addition I have some simple black leather belts and possibly some east German web gear. for weapons for the Germans I am willing to send an MP40 and a STG 44. The Stug has two high caps (uhg!!!) and for the MP40 the plan is to send four mags with it. I have more MP40 magazines as well that I could provide in support of this event. If you are coming as German and are borrowing my stuff have some grey wool slackd that you can tape at the ankles for a spats kind of look. you can buy fairly convincing wool slacks at thrift shops for under $7.00. While you're there odds are you can find some convincing 3/4 high leather rounded toe shoes (boots) for around $5.00. For US weapons (unless more are needed) I plan to send six carbines (each with 3 or 4 magazines) and two M1 Garand AEGs each with 100 rounds in low capacity clips. All US set ups would be with appropriate web gear but the player will need footwear and under layers of warm clothing. For US I have set ups for Airborne, Leg Infantry (M41s, Mackinaws, M43s and a couple wool overcoats to choose from.) The US set ups will include trousers, shirt, jeep hat and helmet along with wool scarf and leggings. You'll need layers of warm clothing for underneath and decent footgear and a belt.
I don't want to ship more then will be used and need to start setting this out and getting it ready to ship before I depart for my work at month end. Lets start getting nailed down who needs what.
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Post by Jerry-ADK on Dec 21, 2013 17:09:51 GMT -5
Our event is getting a lot of views on the Airsoft Canada site, its up to 307. Go check out the thread, I got a few replies. airsoftcanada.com/showthread.php?t=161025 Its good that they know we are on the map. I dont think any Canadians will make the trek down, but maybe in the future. There is a good amount of WW2 airsoft played up there. and Ontario and Quebec isn't too far out of the way for many of us.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 21, 2013 22:44:42 GMT -5
Remind them, if you would that full loaner equipment could be supplied. Thid is especially critical for airsoft weapons as border crossing out of AND ESPECIALLY INTO Canada can be difficult. I have had Canadians and participants from as far away as Sweden at my events and loaner gear (especially weapons) is critical to facilitate their attendance. It would be great to have some international participation at this event.
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Post by Jerry-ADK on Dec 22, 2013 0:26:19 GMT -5
Remind them, if you would that full loaner equipment could be supplied. Thid is especially critical for airsoft weapons as border crossing out of AND ESPECIALLY INTO Canada can be difficult. I have had Canadians and participants from as far away as Sweden at my events and loaner gear (especially weapons) is critical to facilitate their attendance. It would be great to have some international participation at this event. Ok, will do. That may sell it better, as the first reply to my thread was about that issue. I used to attend French and Indian war events up there and getting my muskets through the border was not an issue. Of course that was pre 9/11 and a musket doesn't look like a terrorist weapon. I'm going to call US and Canada customs to see what is required to get airsoft guns through the border. It would be nice to know before ever trying to go to one of their events.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 22, 2013 4:00:01 GMT -5
Our internationally attended event (RECONDO SCHOOL) is Vietnam themed and I was shocked at the level of interest and participation there is for the Vietnam war in countries like Canada, the UK, Sweden, Finland, Czech Republic and even Russia. In many cases their groups and events are more advanced then ours. The weapons are the main snag but this has apparently loosened somewhat between the US and Canada. i always have lots of loaner uniforms and aways an arms room of weapons. i typically equip, clothe and arm the VC and NVA force (usually about 15 guys and girls) as well as at least one patrol of four or five of the RECONDO Students. Each year I need to supply fewer and fewer people even though participation has grown. I hope the same will hold true with WW2 Airsoft events.
For WW2 if need be I can arm 20 plus and cloth a few more then that. If folks have friends interested in trying out WW2 airsoft this event represents a great opportunity to "try it out" and take a step back 60 years or so.
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Post by Jerry-ADK on Dec 22, 2013 7:58:00 GMT -5
I just got a message back from Tactical Virtue that they have about 50 German stick pea grenades left. I'm going to use some of my Christmas money to buy 10. So you can order smaller amounts instead of a whole box. Just send them a message an they Will send a quote. Fort Indian Town Gap is the following weekend after our event. I think that might make it tough for some guys up north to make our event cause they are holding out for that. But I let them know that loner weapons are available if they want to spare themselves the hassle at the border. If our event becomes an annual happening, which I bet it will, more of them could plan ahead for next year. I will take some pics at the event to post for them, sometimes seeing is believing. As for photography, should I bring a small video camera too to get some live combat footage? It may help with the propaganda part of the war
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Post by Jerry-ADK on Dec 22, 2013 8:49:14 GMT -5
Just picked up a C96 broom handle Mauser springer as my backup side arm. Paid under $20 for it and comes with two mags. Although a private in the Fallshirmjagers would probably not have carried this weapon, more likely a p38, I couldn't resist getting it. It's the gun they modeled Han Solo's blaster pistol from, how could I go wrong? And I might need a little backup if my AEG dies.
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Post by shiftysgarand on Dec 22, 2013 8:56:32 GMT -5
Change the settings on the camera to shoot black and white Yes, bring a video camera.
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Post by Jerry-ADK on Dec 22, 2013 9:18:06 GMT -5
Newsreel from the Ardennes Offensive. m.youtube.com/watch?v=ev6FIlexpsEHope this gets you all in the mood, enjoy! Yes, I think my camera can shoot black and white. Some one on the Allied side bring one too, we can combine the footage from both sides. I'll keep the camera discreet and cover it in burlap or something so not to take away from anyone's experience.
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Post by shiftysgarand on Dec 22, 2013 10:19:57 GMT -5
I was thinking of bringing mine and putting it in an airborne first aid pouch.
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Post by shiftysgarand on Dec 22, 2013 10:43:17 GMT -5
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Post by Jerry-ADK on Dec 22, 2013 11:29:46 GMT -5
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Post by SfcMigs on Dec 22, 2013 14:38:10 GMT -5
I just got a message back from Tactical Virtue that they have about 50 German stick pea grenades left. I'm going to use some of my Christmas money to buy 10. So you can order smaller amounts instead of a whole box. Just send them a message an they Will send a quote. Fort Indian Town Gap is the following weekend after our event. I think that might make it tough for some guys up north to make our event cause they are holding out for that. But I let them know that loner weapons are available if they want to spare themselves the hassle at the border. If our event becomes an annual happening, which I bet it will, more of them could plan ahead for next year. I will take some pics at the event to post for them, sometimes seeing is believing. As for photography, should I bring a small video camera too to get some live combat footage? It may help with the propaganda part of the war I'll be heading over to FIG as I love the flea market there. Some really hard to find stuff is usually found there and they have some great deals as well. Only thing I really didn't care for was the re-enactment battle. Unless they changed it from two years ago, they held it in a hard to see area (ravine), covered by high brush. But I thought all the reenactors walking around and marching amongst the barracks in formations were great. As for video cameras, yes bring them. Past events have always had cameras/video and really helped promoting future events and spicing up the AAR's. Whats always an option is if anyone who has a camera or video that wants to get battle footage, they can notify event coordinators and declare themselves "non-combatants" for that portion of the battle. They can wear a Red hanky/towel on their person and not worry about getting hit. But either way, always a great idea to bring one along.
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Post by SfcMigs on Dec 22, 2013 15:09:09 GMT -5
I would also like to take this opportunity to say how great I think the direction of WW2 Airsoft has turned here in the NE.
For almost a year now, there has been a small group of us trying our best to keep the flame burning with the hopes of recapturing the glory of past events. It has certainly been a struggle, with different opinions and ideas thrown around to try and keep this thing going. I am proud to say that I think the worm is turning. This upcoming event has generated such a positive feeling that I think we are definitely heading in the right direction.
I just wanted to take some time here to recognize some key people in keep this thing going:
Brownien: For his dedication and efforts for not only this event, but our co-hosted event this past April and his attendance at all other events in between. His efforts and organizational skills should not go unrewarded.
Issah1944: Graham has hosted two events this past year and did a bang up job each time. Even thought attendance was low at both events, it was still some of the best fighting I've ever been a part of at WW2 airsoft. Great job!
Knights52: He has been working very hard getting the word out that WW2 airsoft is still alive and kicking in the NE area. He showed up in the pouring rain at GZA a couple of months ago promoting our hobby and trying to entice modern players to try our hobby. Great job Matt.
Intersburger: Matt has been at every event for the past year and is trying to get more people involved from his neck of the woods. It's always great to see Matt and especially playing with him.
2nd Bat: Needless to say, his help for this next event is above and beyond. Adding that he'll be flying in to help with the training and game play aspect of this event is just amazing. BRAVO!
Jerry-ADK: Welcome to the fray and a big Hoo-Rah for the bunking offer. That too is above and beyond. It's wonderful gestures like this that have given this event such a feel good feeling about it.
ShiftysGarand: Coming all the way from Michigan says enough by itself. Great job.
If I've left anyone out, my apologies, but I just felt the need to recognize all the players that are doing their share helping us keep this hobby going and trying to bring it back to where it was once before. It's my hope that all those who have taken a "break" over the past year have taken notice and perhaps get the desire back to come back and join us again. So many friendly faces I used to look forward to seeing that I truly miss. But for right now, congratulations to all those who are keeping the flame burning hot and making this event possible.
Bravo Gentlemen, Bravo indeed!!
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 22, 2013 15:30:28 GMT -5
I'm sure there are folks you've left out, Certainly GORDAK for continuing to host this site over all these years and one glaring oversight that definitely needs to be commented on is YOU. I have followed the efforts throughout the country for many many years and the folks willing to step up, organize and hold events are the real catalysts for this hobby. You, Brownien and Jerry have been the drivers of that effort in New England and have withstood the disappointments and occassional scorn that comes with these endeavors. It is a huge challenge to organize, design coordinate and then logistically support any Airsoft event but when there is a theme and historical aspect with widely varied expectations its a wonder anyone takes it on. Bravo before the fact to all of you. If a Winter event can be pulled off a Spring and Summer outing will be a piece of cake.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 23, 2013 4:07:09 GMT -5
The Battle of the Bulge was an epic swirling fight that consisted of countless seemingly random encounters. Once the initial Us lines were penetrated the battles typically became fights for intersections, bridges, causeways and in many cases small groups of men from both sides battling over a warm place to sleep. As with all major campaigns in many cases seemingly small engagements had tremendous impact on the bigger picture. Small groups of men often fought delaying actions or critical standoffs that ruined a timetable or forced a larger element to bypass and seek routes not initially planned. Positions were attacked from unlikely directions and the size, intentions and disposition of the enemy was usually unknown. Rumors and instinct drove many of the small unit and high level decisions. The Germans were desperate and gambled everything. The Americans were frequently confronted with powerful offensive actions not encountered or expected by either the seasoned veterans sent to the quiet sector that was the Ardennes or the training and orientation front it was intended to be for the green troops freshly put into battle. The only fresh troops with experience were the airborne troops who represented Eisenhowers only available reserve. the 82nd and 101st arrived in St Vith and Bastogne Just in the nick of time and together with a motley mix of displaced soldiers, cav troops, tankers, cooks, clerk typists and engineers held off the biggest surprise attack of the war since Pearl Harbor.
Soldiers from both armies fought bravely and desperately and while historians today all agree that the outcome was a foregone conclusion for the soldiers on the ground this was simply not a factor. For them outcomes were factored in fifteen minute increments and the big picture extended perhaps to the foxholes beside them and the next higher eschelon.
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Post by Jerry-ADK on Dec 23, 2013 8:05:36 GMT -5
I like how the Ardennes was nicknamed the ghost front by the men posted in that sector. They said the forest had that creepy haunted feel to it. Nobody was expecting such a massive offensive by the Germans so late in the war.
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Post by shiftysgarand on Dec 23, 2013 9:25:58 GMT -5
Let's hope brownien is planning plenty of random encounters..That I think would really add to the event instead of everyone having fixed positions.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 23, 2013 14:57:40 GMT -5
If the terrain is conducive to random encpunters I agree that would be cool. Assaults (and defense) on fixed positions would also be fun. Obviously so much depends on turn out and the field itself.
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Post by shiftysgarand on Dec 23, 2013 15:14:07 GMT -5
I saw some pictures of lash's, and there is a lot of wooded field, not the typical paintball place with inflatable "bunkers" for cover.
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Post by ScottCollins on Dec 23, 2013 15:50:55 GMT -5
So just to get everything clear, will locals be joining us in this or will it be private?
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