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Post by wilhelmmoa on Nov 6, 2013 16:28:51 GMT -5
I decided to get the ICS m1 garand due to the great reviews it got Pros -shoots amazing -trigger action is good -can't beat those m1 garand iron sights Cons -mag only seems to hold 8 BBs and feeds 4 -broke after 30 shots - receiver is wobbly -heavy
Well I got the thing from my local airsoft store, I brought it home to test fire it and I noticed that the 45 round mag only held 8. It only fed 4 of the 8 rounds I put in. After putting about 30 shots it stopped firing. And that's it. The gun performed at a 4 star ranking but after all the stuff happening I would put it at two stars.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 6, 2013 16:50:38 GMT -5
Obviously something bizarre going on with the one you got. I have put well over 10,000 rounds through mine without a missfire. The mags do not hold the promised 42 but they do hold and feed 32 consistently. I suspect it is fact your magazine that is goofy although typically the rifles come with two. It is heavy for an airsoft rifle but lighter then an actual M1 Garand by a couple pounds.
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Post by shiftysgarand on Nov 6, 2013 17:32:03 GMT -5
Sounds like you got a lemon.
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Post by brownien on Nov 6, 2013 18:14:42 GMT -5
I didn't know ICS subcontracted Marushin to build some of their M1's!?!
But in all seriousness, sorry to hear the issue! I'm sure if you bring it back to the local shop you got it from they can either fix it or replace it. (Or at least they should!)
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Post by shiftysgarand on Nov 6, 2013 18:38:04 GMT -5
I didn't know ICS subcontracted Marushin to build some of their M1's!?! But in all seriousness, sorry to hear the issue! I'm sure if you bring it back to the local shop you got it from they can either fix it or replace it. (Or at least they should!) Marushins are generally better than that... I think they subcontracted Smokey's or Crosman.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 6, 2013 18:47:25 GMT -5
If I had to guess regarding your ICS. The first thing I would do is check your battery. 90% of the time when there is a failure in an AEG its a battery. try it in a different gun. If it works fine check your connections and fuse. As for the mags loading so few BBs that is a puzzlement. I have 12 clips for mine and while they all stuck a bit initially they all broke in quite quickly. I never could manage to put 42 rounds in any of them but they all hold about 35 BBs. Keep us posted. The good news about buying it from a local shop i you have someplace to go back to. Odds are they will make it right and you will be thrilled with it. I have never had a better shootimg airsoft gun.
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Post by wilhelmmoa on Nov 6, 2013 19:32:06 GMT -5
The battery isn't the issue, I tried it with multiple guns and the battery worked every time except the rifle. I am going to return it and get my money back then by the new mp41
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Post by shiftysgarand on Nov 6, 2013 20:02:14 GMT -5
Blown fuse?
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Post by aj czarkowski on Nov 7, 2013 15:41:21 GMT -5
Was thinking the same thing, my m14 conversion was the same way when I first got it, fired like 10 rounds and it broke. The fuse was fried, but the good news is they aren't very hard to replace
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 7, 2013 17:48:19 GMT -5
It would concern me if the fuse blew right away as it would do so due to an electrical short or issue somewhere. Hence even if you replaced the fuse and it suddenly worked fine I would want to find the initial cause (short or crimp in the wire) and repair it. The magazine issue is also a puzzlement.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Apr 27, 2014 19:43:58 GMT -5
The first puzzlement is the fact that your magazine wouldn't accept more BBs than eight. They typically come shipped with two magazines and while there is no way any of the magazines hold the the 42 rounds they supposedly are set up for, they all do accept 30. I have 10 clips and all of them hold 30 rounds. initially my gun used to fail to load the initial shot but this quickly went away.
It had been a while since I got the gun and once I received it I shot it pretty much daily for the first five weeks as a sort of torture test and I couldn't have been happier with it. I dragged it out today and ran all 10 clips full two times each so roughly 600 rounds with no issues whatsoever. The power still seems quite crisp and it shoots as ribbon straight as any airsoft gun I have ever owned. Typically I set up six inch tall plastic soldiers at one end of my yard and see how quickly I can knock them down. This ICS Garand makes quick work of them from 50 feet away.
Still love this gun and consider it my favorite airsoft gun to date.
Hopefully others have gotten to the bottom of whatever their issues are and will start having the kind of experiences I have enjoyed with mine.
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Post by volkssturm on Feb 3, 2015 14:05:28 GMT -5
Airsoft Megastore had the ICS M1 on sale (yeah, they know how to get to my credit cards), so I had to buy one. First impression overall is "Didn't they have a real one to get measurements from?" I suppose they had to fudge to get all the internals to fit. Overall, it's not that bad, but some things are glaring. Here's a pic next my RS M1 The stock color isn't too far off. Minor annoyance, whatever oil finish they put on it has a tacky, sticky feel. Should be fixable. I hope the electrical problems others have had have been resolved. We'll see. I put a few BB's through it for a function check, but that's it so far.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Feb 3, 2015 15:53:08 GMT -5
Couple quick observations. First, I had that same bed spread when I was a kid! The side by side picture is very helpful. The overall length is better than it appears as the butt stocks are not perfectly aligned. With that said the demensions of the handguard and gas assembly are off a bit along with the previously mentioned gap between the gas assembly and barrel, oversized sling hardware and bulbous butt plate. I did some simple cosmetic tricks to camouflage these infidelities which I will be happy to share with you. How many rounds are YOUR clips feeding? Did you have the same experience I had intially where upon a reload the first shot or two dry fired? This cleared up over time for me. What does yours chrono at? Incidently I use .28s in mind and have been very pleased with that weight in this gun.
Mine is probably 10,000 rounds into its use life and it continues to work flawlessly. Hopefully you'll have the same kind of good luck. It remains my favorite all time airsoft gun. Your RS stock appears to have been redone and has a higher sheen than it would have had when issued? (probably just the flash?) Thanks for sharing the over and under view as that is very helpful. I applied two more coats of tung oil right over their finish on mine and once dry I have been pleased with the results.
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Post by insterburger on Feb 3, 2015 16:23:18 GMT -5
Is it just a trick of the photography, or is the ICS trigger guard cartoonishly large? Overall it looks not too awfully bad. If it weren't right next to a RS one a lot of the infidelities would be hard to notice.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Feb 3, 2015 17:07:40 GMT -5
alot of the trim items are oversized. What is totally difficult to understand is why a replica manufacturer wouldn't research those detail aspects that make real weapons especially collectible and then replicate those features. The single slot locking lug, the machined trigger guard and heat shield clip. Sight locks. the production costs would be identical but the added cache appearance wise would be much appreciated. Learning what to look for in the age of the Internat is so easy.
I expected GnG to jump in and do so and while their Garand is visually more correct in my opinion not significntly. The reality is without a real Garand sitting side by side most of the infidelities are not glaring. Our is a hobby filled with people who obsess over details and builders catering to our market need to realize this.
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Post by volkssturm on Feb 3, 2015 17:16:24 GMT -5
Yes, the trigger guard is cartoonishly large. It looks like they did that to get the safety in the right place. So, with .20's it's running 402-410. The mags hold between 29-32 bb's. I ran onto something odd when testing. The first mag went 17 before "failing", the 2d went 11. But when I checked the reason was because the mags hadn't been full. Looking carefully I noticed something odd. After about a dozen or so bb's went in and the next ones started cycling up and down. When I released the plunger on the speed loader the bb's came right back up into the speed loader. It might be a defective speed loader or the spring in the mag is overpowering the detent in the speed loader. Never noticed it before.
My RS M1 is one of the ones that was reimported from China in the '90's. I refinished the stock with Birchwood Casey stock finish (linseed oil base I think). It's actually a little too glossy.
And the bedspread is one I got from my parents' house. I think it was my brother's when we were growing up.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Feb 3, 2015 23:44:37 GMT -5
Very funny! the bedspread was one I and each of my four brothers had growing up. We had bunkbeds and since we're similar in age perhaps it was a popular item back in the day. My ICS clips took a while to break in and function consistently. I still have no idea how they can claim a 42 round capacity as I certainly have never been able to load that many. Mine however consistently give me 30 to 32 rounds.
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