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Post by tango on Mar 10, 2014 5:43:27 GMT -5
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Post by shiftysgarand on Mar 10, 2014 6:26:42 GMT -5
More buzz saws? Come out with the frickin' Garand already!
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Post by 2nd Bat on Mar 10, 2014 18:49:35 GMT -5
Pretty cool conceptually. The ease of spring upgrades, replacement and the quick change barrel (just like the original) is pretty cool. All of this is a graphic not an actual gun so who knows how long it will be before such a gun actually exists. If the Garand is an example then i'd say...three years away?
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Post by aj czarkowski on Mar 10, 2014 19:33:11 GMT -5
Pretty cool conceptually. The ease of spring upgrades, replacement and the quick change barrel (just like the original) is pretty cool. All of this is a graphic not an actual gun so who knows how long it will be before such a gun actually exists. If the Garand is an example then i'd say...three years away? 3 years and counting sadly
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Post by Rekkon on Jul 29, 2015 8:32:40 GMT -5
This arrived in my inbox this morning.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jul 29, 2015 19:37:53 GMT -5
Impressive. Let's not hold our breath until it arrives and lets hope its worthy of the wait. Thus far the offerings have been disappointing with regard to reliability.
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Post by stuka on Jul 29, 2015 20:05:32 GMT -5
I believe G&G is usually better then a&k but this will pry be a bit more expensive too, I wish the garand mags were avalible in the states as I have only seen it on a website from england
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Post by DRK on Jul 30, 2015 0:28:49 GMT -5
If they didn't change anything from what I felt up at shot show back in Jan. then it's gonna be a great Electric '42, I own 4 shoei's and I still want one of the G&G's. It has functional barrel swap, it has a button right under the feed tray to undock the inner barrel for the outter barrel swap.
Time to hunt for AA tripods & Lafettes.
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Post by stuka on Jul 30, 2015 0:38:00 GMT -5
if I may, what are you going to do with a AA tripod in airsoft haha
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Post by DRK on Jul 30, 2015 8:29:21 GMT -5
If you own a Shoei, you know why it's better to use that.
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Post by reichelderfer on Jul 30, 2015 12:38:04 GMT -5
Just throwing it out their, $1850 before shipping from wgcshop
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Post by aldrich on Jul 30, 2015 15:00:14 GMT -5
Our group has found that for our mg's, the AA tripod is much more versatile than the lafette. The AA tripod has significantly more traverse and can be carried and set up much more easily.
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Post by DRK on Jul 30, 2015 15:29:19 GMT -5
Plus it keeps the Shoei further away from the ground with much less debris/dust/dirt getting inside.
As for the price at WGC, wow. At shot show I was told $900. $1800 I can get more Shoei's.
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Post by stuka on Jul 30, 2015 16:46:37 GMT -5
I just searched wgc fairly well and nothing on their store website. but then i checked their facebook, such a shame that price is way to high.
"G&G MG42 - Worldwide MSRP US$1850 ( Release date: Mid of AUG )"
Then again it's the msrp so maybe people will sell it cheaper? I know I have seen lots of airsoft stuff with a much higher msrp then retailers were selling and that was without it being a sale.
Still, at best it would be 1500 if they sell it lower then msrp.
Absolute best case scenario would be if it was a typo. We'll just have to wait, if it is that price it isn't really going to be that helpful for the hobby
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Post by Dracul on Jul 30, 2015 17:10:03 GMT -5
Yeahh... wasn't there some other post out there saying it was going to be like about $700? Still pretty steep, but anything over that would be overkill... I mean you can get two A&K MG-42's for that...
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Post by volkssturm on Jul 30, 2015 17:12:43 GMT -5
if I may, what are you going to do with a AA tripod in airsoft haha It's just a matter of time before someone comes out with an Airsoft firing P-47 model drone, then the Germans will need an AA capability
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Post by stuka on Jul 30, 2015 18:48:40 GMT -5
well from my understandings, you'll basically need to rebuild the insides of the A&K so that can be a couple hundred dollars and the externals are a bit too cheap so there is that.
I think a fair price with at least durable internals and externals would be 700-900$, anything more is a bit too much
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Post by Dracul on Jul 31, 2015 5:19:33 GMT -5
So, what are these common problems associated with the A&K MG42? I just hear people talking about how they have problems, but doesn't explain what the problems are.
Not saying their aren't other problems, but the only problem I've seen with them was at Operation '44 where the two MG42's went down to feeding issues. I think in the feed tray area specifically. Which is big problem.
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Post by stuka on Jul 31, 2015 5:43:28 GMT -5
feeding, gearbox brakes quickly. I know a guy who completely just got a new gearbox and upgraded it, cost him some good money but performance wise it's really good, externals leave some to be desired
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Post by gunner79 on Jul 31, 2015 13:09:08 GMT -5
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Post by gunner79 on Jul 31, 2015 13:19:18 GMT -5
Our group has found that for our mg's, the AA tripod is much more versatile than the lafette. The AA tripod has significantly more traverse and can be carried and set up much more easily. I have two Shoei MG42s, one RWA MG34 (now converted by Rudy to P* system (heh heh:), and two Asahi MG34s (just beautiful, beautifully made mgs. Period). I also own a full, real steel MG34 (Ser. No. 999!) converted for airsoft use that truly is one of the most realistic, exotic weapons in my collection - because....it's a real gun (with the internal bolt and trigger group removed and skillfully replaced by a gunsmith to use a gearbox, hopup and barrel, along with the feed setup from (as I understand it, an Echo 1 MG). In any event it shoots/looks like a frikking dream!). I also own the G3 AA tripod (W. German surplus) and a circa WWII Lafette tripod. The G3 tripod is vastly more usable for airsoft purposes - but keep in mind you have to find the hard-to-source adaptor to use the MG34 guns on it. I was lucky enough to acquire the adaptor and both model '34 AND '42 MGs can now be used. The LF tripod is really only for collection purposes (or use with RS) as it's utility really is designed for pinpoint or sweeping traverse at long range. I doubt many airsoft platforms/guns are going to be dropping rounds at 250 - 1500 yards:). True - no airsoft mg is going to be dropping Jabos from the skies either - but you get my point. In terms of set-up, breakdown, traverse and elevation (for ground targets) the G3 AA tripod is, personally, my choice when using a tripod mount!
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Post by gunner79 on Jul 31, 2015 13:21:06 GMT -5
See next. Edited to include additional info.
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Post by gunner79 on Jul 31, 2015 13:23:12 GMT -5
Edited (see next post).
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Post by Ersatzjack on Jul 31, 2015 18:37:08 GMT -5
An RWA MG-34 that has been P*'ed? Cool! I was thinking we'd do the same thing once the armored car is finished. That way the car can carry all the weight. Nice work! The RWA is the Viva, No?
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Post by gunner79 on Jul 31, 2015 19:47:31 GMT -5
Superseded - see next post (damn cell-phone:)
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Post by gunner79 on Jul 31, 2015 20:24:33 GMT -5
An RWA MG-34 that has been P*'ed? Cool! I was thinking we'd do the same thing once the armored car is finished. That way the car can carry all the weight. Nice work! The RWA is the Viva, No? Thanks EJ - but no, the RWA is that 'Limited Edition '34 that RedWolf contracted another company to build for it (and markets thru the RedWolf website, and a couple of other Pacific Rim airsoft retailers. Against my better judgement, I dropped some substantial coin and had a colleague with a wholesaler's license pick up for me (retails at something like $1500 and change (U.S.). My nutshell verdict: passable externals (dimensionally incorrect in places and soft-detail in others. Despite RedWolf's penchant for over-heated puffery (not to mention RW's claims of this MG34 being 'the world's first airsoft MG34', and possessing 'exacting attention to detail' and 'built with only the highest quality materials/components'; as well as other just downright false claims), the RWA MG34 has, at best, mediocre and in certain instances just plain poor quality internals. Mine started to misfire at about 150 rounds down the throat, then blew it's piston shortly thereafter. I've also heard if others having similar difficulties with it. Other 'little' inaccuracies - the RWA '34 does NOT have the dual trigger system (like the RS and Asahi's) wherein one can switch from semi to full auto using the 'half-moon' trigger system. Also, it has a FAKE safety switch (a REAL no no in my book and a accident waiting to happen). Won't go into the details of RWA's responses to my complaints (that is another subject altogether) but suffice it to say that RWA lost pretty much ALL the goodwill it had accumulated with me over the years. Honest opinion, my quarter century old Asahi MG34s are superior MGs in every respect to the RWA product, save ammo capacity and that's easily overcome by having a couple extra drum mags. Anyway, long story short - figured I'd have Rudy (who has done many a special project for me over the years) take a shot at converting to Polarstar, She is a holy terror now, performance wise:) But Rudy did some significant engineering to get her that way. He also felt the need to completely rewire/rebuild the RWA drum mag,which he felt was simply poorly done. But - yes - if you want your AC to be the best - get a P* MG34 (or an Asahi:)
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Post by stuka on Aug 1, 2015 2:39:34 GMT -5
does the mg34 have the ability to fire single shot? From my understanding there was a specific way to do that on mg34's
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Post by gunner79 on Aug 1, 2015 3:56:31 GMT -5
Hi Stuka - that is precisely correct. The real MG34 has/is selective fire. The trigger is fashioned as a double 'half-moon' design. Pressure on the lower portion fires semi. Pressure on the upper is full auto. Of all the extant airsoft MG34 models, only one faithfully duplicates that function: the superb" Asahi MG34 - which replicates it perfectly. Only problem is - only about 500 Asahi MG34 guns were known manufactured (about 25 years ago) and trying to obtain one is like finding the Holy Grail. Finding like new condition ones......
I've been fortunate enough to land two. Took me about 20 years to do though and some really serious money. Stunning guns but really a collectors item due to cost, scarcity and expense. But, after firing one, you realize why they are so coveted. The performance, sound and tactile experience is like no other airsoft MG:)
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Post by stuka on Aug 1, 2015 17:00:29 GMT -5
Very cool hopefully a new company will make them with that feature
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Post by DRK on Sept 9, 2015 11:01:07 GMT -5
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