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Post by luftwelle93 on Nov 23, 2014 22:13:45 GMT -5
Yea I think I'll get the Austrian ones.I also need to complete my tropical impression
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Post by ssgjoe on Nov 24, 2014 13:51:08 GMT -5
I personally would suggest against Austrian ones, but it's not my kit.
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Post by LϟϟAH1944 on Nov 24, 2014 15:10:18 GMT -5
I agree, I had postwar ones for a while, but finally ditched em. WHy not just get the proper ones? Also, you should put your basic heer kit before tropical- theres no real use for a tropical impression.
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Post by ssgjoe on Nov 24, 2014 16:23:06 GMT -5
I'd agree. Maybe you could get some tropical y straps to use as webbing y straps in your late was Heer impression.
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Post by ssgjoe on Nov 24, 2014 16:23:40 GMT -5
And use them in your DAK kit. :^)
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Post by luftwelle93 on Nov 24, 2014 17:47:23 GMT -5
Oh yeah forgot about the tropical straps!There's a few tropical stuff that can be used for Heer.I plan on getting plenty of personal items too.
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Post by insterburger on Nov 24, 2014 18:34:25 GMT -5
As someone whose primary impression features pretty good repro y-straps, I agree that quality repros are the way to go. That said, there are very good reasons to go Austrian, depending on an individual's situation. Someone who is trying to build up a fieldable kit quickly on a tight budget would benefit from them. When a decent set of repros will set you back $50 and a set of Austrian ones can usually be had for under $20... well, for someone without a lot of scratch that extra $30 can mean the difference between getting other key gear or not. Going without y-straps with a combat load isn't a good idea, and the bargain-basement repros are just awful-- my first set was those, and the atrocious hooks simply did not stay on and were a constant distraction in combat. The least you can say for the Austrians is that they're not too far off visually, and are eminently functional at a very affordable cost. Eventually most players will upgrade, as did ssgjoe, but they are far and away the best entry-level option for those who need every dollar to count. And then, when you trade up, you have the beginnings of a loaner impression...
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Post by ssgjoe on Nov 24, 2014 18:42:35 GMT -5
I never entered with post war straps. That was LSSAH and he upgraded. But keep in mind, money you spend on bad items will be wasted down the road when you have to buy again to make it proper. That's just my two cents.
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Post by luftwelle93 on Nov 24, 2014 19:37:13 GMT -5
Thanks for the suggestions.I guess Y-straps isn't really a thing I need immediately anyway.What I really need is belt and pouches.I plan on getting a airsoft Kar98 and that's going to be my main gun so I'll get those pouches too.
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Post by insterburger on Nov 24, 2014 20:17:37 GMT -5
I never entered with post war straps. That was LSSAH and he upgraded. But keep in mind, money you spend on bad items will be wasted down the road when you have to buy again to make it proper. That's just my two cents. My bad on confusing your posts, sorry. I guess my point is that if you have other pressing items to buy, the differential you save in the short term can be significant, and the wasted money argument is essentially spurious in this case... Any loss from getting postwar straps is negligible: at most you're out the $15-20 they cost--the price of a casual dining meal-- IF at the end of the day you keep them. But realistically you can always put them up for sale and get what you put into them (or close to it) back. "Renting" postwar straps for a year for five bucks (or less) with a ten buck deposit could be just the ticket for the guy who pressingly needs other stuff. But again, for those with more financial means, or who are getting into stitchnazi level BF re-enacting, decent repros get straight to the point. All a matter of a guy's specific situation, which is all I've been saying. And Luftwelle, you will want y-straps of some sort if you're carrying a combat load into the field, trust me. They didn't commit countless tons of leather and considerable labor into making millions of them just because they look cool!
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Post by luftwelle93 on Nov 24, 2014 20:24:21 GMT -5
I never entered with post war straps. That was LSSAH and he upgraded. But keep in mind, money you spend on bad items will be wasted down the road when you have to buy again to make it proper. That's just my two cents. My bad on confusing your posts, sorry. I guess my point is that if you have other pressing items to buy, the differential you save in the short term can be significant, and the wasted money argument is essentially spurious in this case... Any loss from getting postwar straps is negligible: at most you're out the $15-20 they cost--the price of a casual dining meal-- IF at the end of the day you keep them. But realistically you can always put them up for sale and get what you put into them (or close to it) back. "Renting" postwar straps for a year for five bucks (or less) with a ten buck deposit could be just the ticket for the guy who pressingly needs other stuff. But again, for those with more financial means, or who are getting into stitchnazi level BF re-enacting, decent repros get straight to the point. All a matter of a guy's specific situation, which is all I've been saying. And Luftwelle, you will want y-straps of some sort if you're carrying a combat load into the field, trust me. They didn't commit countless tons of leather and considerable labor into making millions of them just because they look cool!Lol,that's true.I'll probably end up getting some tropical strpas.Eventually I'll get a M36 tunic for a more earlier impression.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 24, 2014 22:46:06 GMT -5
Over the years I have seen dozens upon dozens of potential players who out of fear of being ostrasized or the desire for perfection never quite get their complete kit and never actually attend a historical themed airsoft event. Patton once famously said "A Good plan executed quickly is imminently prefered over a perfect plan implemented later or actions never taken.".
If " close enough" gets you presentable or items can be borrowed to get you there. (they almost always can be, so just ask) Take the leap. Equipment and uniforms unless dreadfully anachronistic will look fine in a mass of very good.
Examine pictures of large groups of soldiers in field campaigns and you will see a lot of worn, muddy, inconsistent and frequently non "uniform" non "regulation" looks. This is the product of combat and just as squad leader would rather field a full compliment of hodge podge soldiers than a fractional unit perfectly outfitted, clean shaven and perfectly laundered and tailored uniforms so would MOST of our events!
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Post by Dracul on Nov 25, 2014 0:03:57 GMT -5
Over the years I have seen dozens upon dozens of potential players who out of fear of being ostrasized or the desire for perfection never quite get their complete kit and never actually attend a historical themed airsoft event. Patton once famously said "A Good plan executed quickly is imminently prefered over a perfect plan implemented later or actions never taken.". If " close enough" gets you presentable or items can be borrowed to get you there. (they almost always can be, so just ask) Take the leap. Equipment and uniforms unless dreadfully anachronistic will look fine in a mass of very good. Examine pictures of large groups of soldiers in field campaigns and you will see a lot of worn, muddy, inconsistent and frequently non "uniform" non "regulation" looks. This is the product of combat and just as squad leader would rather field a full compliment of hodge podge soldiers than a fractional unit perfectly outfitted, clean shaven and perfectly laundered and tailored uniforms so would MOST of our events! I personally try to follow this, especially since I have a team under me. Except that my main focus is to get good guns up and running. Your rifle is the most important piece of gear you'll be using, no matter the impression.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 25, 2014 1:54:50 GMT -5
There are many dimensions to our hobby. There is the impression aspect, gear aspect and tactical aspect. Everyone has their own area(s) of emphasis. I for one am most interested in the tactical, gameplay aspect but greatly appreciate the suspension of disbelief atmosphere that credible impressions and gear create. The "Time machine" element. Others are more interested in the precise replication of uniforms and gear while still others are primarily collectors and educators.
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