stuka
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Post by stuka on Apr 7, 2015 2:41:25 GMT -5
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Post by volkssturm on Apr 7, 2015 11:28:31 GMT -5
I love it. "A well place bullet will break the bracket.." Here's how the Finns took out Russkie T-26 tanks. www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MHIC1wk2T8The Japanese tank and the T-26 were both products of early '30's tank design. They weren't bad for what they were, but they were essentially obsolete when the war started. It's amazing how fast tank design progressed once the shooting started.
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Post by stuka on Apr 7, 2015 12:26:36 GMT -5
Well except for the Japanese =P
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Post by 2nd Bat on Apr 7, 2015 16:34:43 GMT -5
The Japanese tanks were quite dreadful and were in fact vulnerable compared to main battle tanks from the time. With that said it still would take balls you carried in wheel barrel to face one and the training videos of the day were one part tactics and three parts propaganda, In Vietnam a friend of mine was awarded a Silver star for knocking out two PT 76 Soviet Armored Vehicles that along with eight others attacked the SF base he was stationed at (See Battle of Lang Vei).
In the debrief following the action Paul Longgear described the vehicles as TANKs and was quickly corrected by the REMF Major who pointed out that they were not TANKs. Paul quickly responded by saying. "They had turrets, tracks and machine guns and couldn't be penetrated by bullets most of my LAWs were missfiring and it was dark. I apologize for my exaggeration."
Facing any armored vehicle no matter how poorly designed would be terrifying. My inclination would be rearrange road signs and hide.
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Post by Rekkon on Apr 7, 2015 17:01:12 GMT -5
It is easy to forget the psychological impact of AFVs, even in airsoft. I remember being intimidated by our BA-64 the first time I faced it, but constant exposure (and not dying from mistakes) quickly taught me how to react to it. Nowdays I still respect it but view its approach as much as an opportunity for a vehicle kill as a threat. A few years ago we had some new Germans at one of the Fort McCoy events. We were in an open, grassy field, and they fled when Natasha pressed. I had to yell at them to hold, and their rearward movement inadvertently pulled the BA-64 into a location I could kill it. I definitely felt like a German on the Eastern front watching some Italians flee and going "WTF? That was like *one* tank!"
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Post by 2nd Bat on Apr 8, 2015 1:35:03 GMT -5
An individual armored vehicle can be quite intimidating but as mentioned is actually very vulnerable. Armored vehicles in packs are a whole different story. Their effectiveness is exponential. 1+ 1 + 1 is not three in the case of attacking armor its 10. Add supportimg infantry and you discoverthat adrenalin is brown (even in airsoft)
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Post by Rekkon on Apr 8, 2015 8:57:55 GMT -5
Indeed. Unfortunately we rarely get one vehicle in airsoft, much less enough to "blitzkrieg." At one of our McCoy events, we put the BA-64 and SdKfz 250 on the same team. That was a blast. We circled around the Russians and hit them from behind. This required them to turn around the Pak, giving away its position, and threw off the defensive preparations of their infantry, which could not easily move against us through an open, grassy field. Even without infantry support, we took the position on the second try. 3-4 single vehicle attacks would not have accomplished that.
I have been to a few modern games that temporarily moved all vehicles (3-4) onto one team for convoy missions, but the setup made them very averse to loss and forced them to follow narrow trails where they could only proceed single file.
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Post by luftwelle93 on Apr 11, 2015 12:20:18 GMT -5
At least there were no Tigers and Panthers in the jungles for the Sherman to worry :DThe Japanese tanks looks fun to ride,but in combat it seems it doesn't take much to knock it.Its expected since Japan seemed to be slow to industrialize and build things in numbers
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Post by volkssturm on Apr 11, 2015 12:38:32 GMT -5
The British were very successful using the M3 medium tank in Burma. It was obsolete in Europe/North Africa almost as soon as it got there, but the 37mm gun in the turret could take out a Japanese tank and the 75mm gun in the hull was perfect for taking out bunkers.
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Post by luftwelle93 on Apr 11, 2015 16:30:25 GMT -5
It seemed the Sherman was ideal for the Pacific.The Japanese I believe did not have enough anti-tank weapons to go around.
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Post by volkssturm on Apr 11, 2015 18:54:21 GMT -5
The Japanese 47mm AT gun could cause problems for a Sherman from the side or back, but the Japanese were forced to rely on suicidal expedients, like infantry swarming a tank in hopes that at least a couple of them would survive long enough to get in close with explosives or grenades. Some tank crews drove nails through planks and strapped them on their tanks to make it harder to climb on. The most desperate expedient was what might be called the "Japanese IED." A guy hidden in a hole with a bomb or artillery shell and a hammer. When a tank drove over him he was supposed to hit the fuse with the hammer. BANZAI!
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Post by luftwelle93 on Apr 11, 2015 19:00:54 GMT -5
WW2 Japanese ingenuity at work there :DThe Pacific Theater was a breed of its own.
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