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Post by rick on May 29, 2015 16:30:46 GMT -5
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Post by 2nd Bat on May 29, 2015 17:45:45 GMT -5
Hmmmmmm, your link takes us right back to this thread?
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Post by aj czarkowski on May 29, 2015 22:30:48 GMT -5
I guess this thread is in Hong Kong
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Post by stuka on May 30, 2015 0:37:42 GMT -5
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Post by stuka on May 30, 2015 1:02:49 GMT -5
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Post by daehahn on May 30, 2015 9:13:37 GMT -5
Finally, now if only they start making a Kar98 thats like this.
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Post by rick on May 30, 2015 9:38:22 GMT -5
Sorry for bad link, but Stuka godt it right. This could be prommising, but it can also be a wallhanger like the Mosin nagant. Il guess we must wait for a rewiue.
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Post by stuka on May 30, 2015 11:45:24 GMT -5
The only problem with the mosin was the feeding mechanism I believe
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Post by droopaille on May 30, 2015 13:06:03 GMT -5
A great replica. Mine with its friends
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Post by 2nd Bat on May 30, 2015 14:23:30 GMT -5
Droop. Do you have one of these new SPRINGER S&T M1903s? IF so please let us know all about it. How well does it shoot? What is the accuracy and power like? What is the feeding process? We have long awaited this type of offering and this is great news if its a skirmishable replica. Hopefully as stated it is as good as we hope for and a Kar 98 is soon to follow.
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Post by daehahn on May 30, 2015 14:44:56 GMT -5
It seems like the only problem now would be finding the right magazine pouches. It looks like the mags for the 1903 wouldn't fit in a cartridge belt.
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Post by droopaille on May 30, 2015 14:45:58 GMT -5
Springfield 1903 A3 from S&T spring version Wood and metal (zamac) Magazine : 25bbs Lenght : 1120mm Weight : 3,740Kg Spring, manual bolt Hopup on the right side -average 390fps O,20 BBs -wood good quality same as kar pps (need to sand with oil a bit) -marking "made in China" on the trigger guard ??!!? (easy to remove) -the rear ring is too small for the leather sling Based on the VSR 10 mecanism with specific magazines Magazines are stranges, need to push far inside the stock. Trapdoor closed. They are also too long for put it in a Garand or Springfield belt. But we can use a 1911 magazine pouch. The Hopup system is too soft. I made a custom system with a screw which push on the top. With a aluminium base. I will make a thing for stocking the allen key on the stock. The piece I made for the scope. But it exists.
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Post by shiftysgarand on May 30, 2015 15:05:17 GMT -5
Chouette! Do you know what the internals look like (i.e. does it take VSR upgrades?)
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Post by droopaille on May 30, 2015 15:11:27 GMT -5
I was editing when you asked
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Post by 2nd Bat on May 30, 2015 17:57:29 GMT -5
Droop,
Excellent report! this appears to be exactly what we have been asking for! The trigger box looks identical to the VSR / VSR Clones. Obviously much has been drawn from those base guns which is excellent. Assuming this is successful (which I believe it will be.). a Kar 98 can't be far behind and less expensive plastic stocks in simulated wood after that...We will finally have the biggest missing hole in our inventory.
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Post by 2nd Bat on May 30, 2015 18:07:26 GMT -5
Clever the way they did the magazines to utilize the VSR hardware but camouflage it and replicate the Springfield base plate. Nice to see that spare magazines are available and I like your solution for storage. Great summary Droop. Merci Beaucoup!
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Post by stuka on May 31, 2015 1:26:26 GMT -5
What do you mean the rear ring is too small for the sling? Did you have to replace it or is it too tight for the sling?
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Post by droopaille on May 31, 2015 4:41:52 GMT -5
Thanks I built a larger one.
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Post by stuka on May 31, 2015 7:25:11 GMT -5
I suppose that works, that's cool
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Post by reichelderfer on May 31, 2015 10:54:52 GMT -5
Do you think with alot of dremel time that a real 1903 stock would fit? Variant of choice dependent on user of course.
This is REALLY exciting as far as bolts go, I hope that KAR98 is right behind this soon.
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Post by droopaille on May 31, 2015 13:05:29 GMT -5
I don't know but may be right
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Post by 2nd Bat on May 31, 2015 13:30:09 GMT -5
This is extremely exciting news. It will definitely join my armory. Like everyone else I believe the Kar 98 is the product gap we really need but given that the Springfield was based on the Mauser it should be out in a year or two. As for the Springfield I like that they went with the straight stock as I find that to be the most iconic. It would appear that an A1 rear site and upperhandguard could be fairly easily modified to work for those preferring that look.
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Post by grifter on Jun 1, 2015 6:10:15 GMT -5
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jun 1, 2015 13:46:52 GMT -5
Even replica scope hardware for Springfield scopes are outrageously expensive. I tend NOT to advocate for scopes on airsoft guns since even a substantially upgraded gun has limited range but I understand why the notion is appealing so having this available is nice. The sniper variant of the Springfield utilized the C stock not the straight stock on this M1903 replica. A minor point but one worth considering.
The springfield was employed at the squad level for front line Infantry units and the rifleman was designated a Marksman (not sniper). In reality the Springfield was most often employed as the best rifle grenade platform as the blank used to launch the grenade did not charge the subsequent rounds in a Garand seamlessly. The Springfield could have four live rounds beneath the blank and immediately following the launching of the grenade be ready to fire normally.
Rifle grenades were frequently used against bunkers, buildings armored vehicles and clusters of Infantry. There were several types.
Springfields were also issued in large numbers to rear eschelon troops.
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Post by heckman328 on Jun 2, 2015 19:51:57 GMT -5
Droop, may you possibly show pictures of the cylinder and internals of the cylinder? I am curious to see if they will be compatible with pistons and spring guides from laylax or PDI since it definitely looks like it takes vsr-10 trigger boxes.
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Post by stuka on Jun 2, 2015 22:02:32 GMT -5
"Based on the VSR 10 mecanism with specific magazines"
and based on the picture I would say it pry would be. The only thing that seems different is the hop-up arm really, at least to me anyways.
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Post by aj czarkowski on Jun 2, 2015 22:58:29 GMT -5
That's awesome, finally no more vsr11 conversions! Definitely fills a huge gap.
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Post by hennepin15 on Jun 2, 2015 23:03:34 GMT -5
What S&T just did for ww2 airsoft is reflected in the words of admiral Yamato post pearl harbour. "We have awoken a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve." I've been waiting for this for two years!
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Post by droopaille on Jun 3, 2015 6:21:49 GMT -5
Yes I can, but not now, I've a big OP in 10 days and no time for this right now
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Post by volkssturm on Jun 3, 2015 11:52:53 GMT -5
Actually pretty brilliant how they handled the magazine. No more big hole in the bottom of the stock. That design should make the Arisaka possible as well.
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