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Post by Ripper on Jun 13, 2007 17:41:24 GMT -5
For those of us that are positions of authority in our airsoft organizations, SAFTEY is paramount. Of course people got hot in wartime. I know I sure as hell did. BUT, the soldiers parents weren't going to file a lawsuit against the admin staff or the landowner if little Joey fell out due to his own stupidity.
My groups home airsoft field is 100 acres of heavily wooded and hilly terrain. We require every player to have sealed ANSI 87.1 goggles, TWO liters of water on their person ,a radio and a compass. Admin types like myself have two radios on us at all times. None of that fits into the neat little world that re-enactor types like to work in. If I go to a period event, then I can leave some of that at home. But for now, I have to balance functionality and the saftey of my troops against looking all period pretty.
It's a trade-off, but it is neccesary.
That doesn't mean we don't care about history. Nothing is farter from the truth. It just means we have to take care of business when we play a historical themed game.
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Post by Lev on Jun 13, 2007 18:00:25 GMT -5
My intent was not to offend or be seen as holier than thou. Please accept my apologies.
Just to set the record straight, I am practicing what I'm preaching. My impression is not complete and I am taking it one step at a time with correct gear. The crux of my argument was that there are different ways to build out your kit.
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Post by YankeeDiv26 on Jun 13, 2007 18:27:52 GMT -5
WUTT!! UR IMPRESSION'S NOT LIKE DONE AND UR LIKE COMMENTING ON SUMBODIE ELSIS GEER!!!!! jk.
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Post by chigster on Jun 13, 2007 18:38:02 GMT -5
Its all good! Im not offended, and there are some good points being made. I know exactly whats wrong with the look I have put together, as I read a lot of WWII books and stuff. I know the nazi gods are angry at me for this!
I just wanted to suggest a "cheap" look on the "Cheapest (but still ok) impression possible?" page, instead of saying just get repos. I would rather someone mod a US BDU then say "Screw WWII airsoft cuz I dont have $500 to blow" Not everyone is as into WWII as some people, so I would rather them try and attend then not come at all.
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Post by Jager.Drü on Jun 13, 2007 22:56:27 GMT -5
My intent was not to offend or be seen as holier than thou. Please accept my apologies. Just to set the record straight, I am practicing what I'm preaching. My impression is not complete and I am taking it one step at a time with correct gear. The crux of my argument was that there are different ways to build out your kit. Well said, it is hard to tell what people are trying to say through just text. I accept your apology Now, will you accept mine? I didn't not mean to attack you, its just we have people before come in and sprout off things but they have no impression for others to comment on them. RipperYou can carry all that stuff in period things. Do you have a gas mask can? If so, carry those raidos in there, along with the extra water. IF you don't have a can, GET ONE. Also, raidos could fit in breadbags. Also you guys don't use mesh? For one, I would think mesh would be the way to go in the heat. I have put mesh into period goggles to wear with my impression. |
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Post by Ripper on Jun 13, 2007 23:40:10 GMT -5
I have a gas mask can. I carry extra water and hand loaders in it. ;D
The radios go in coyote tan molle grenade pouches that are secured on my belt behind the MP40 pouches.
The mic's get clipped to the Y harness. The goggles really aren't a concern.
The point I was trying to make is that we can't be re-enactor correct to suit some folks, but at 20 feet you won't probably know the difference. AND, we actually fight/play in our gear.
WWII airsoft isn't even on the radar in my area. Guys basically don't want to do anything but current Iraq/Afgahnistan or counterstrike impressions. Out of an 800 member organization, I've only got 12 bodies interested and 4 really commited so far. But I know it is gonna be slow going. The lack of suitable and affordable weapons is pretty much killing it. It's kinda hard to compete with cool guns like the XM8, G36's, L86 and the SCAR when all you can offer is uber expensive and quirky bolt actions or an MP40.
We don't play speedball type games, so convincing guys to give up modern and effective digital camo patterns to wear fledgrau wa also a total loser. They are used to being well concealed during games. Showing up in the Oak-A/b and Dot 44 HBT's finally got some guys interested.
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Post by Jager.Drü on Jun 13, 2007 23:50:04 GMT -5
I see I see, Splinter, and Most SS camo actually works really well. Im not a huge fan of Dot 44 no one uses it around here. Most of us wear Splinter and darker SS camo. We were playing a game and the allies said when we were laying still, we would just look like piles of rocks.
It is true about the weapons $500 for a gas Kar98 with one mag, bah, $430 for a TM AK, two extra batteries, charger and 10 star mags.
well, I have nothing else to say about that.
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Post by kellhound on Jun 16, 2007 16:52:33 GMT -5
The best part about my impression is that I know it's not correct, because I wanted it to be wrong  . You are lucky in the USA with many things about this hobby, from availability, to laws. Here we are not so lucky (but i have repros available and affordable whenever I want  ), and reenactment outside napoleonics and romans it's frowned upon due to our recent history and a excess of pseudo-proto-nazi-wannabees. The range of reenactors in this country goes from the anal-retentive-stitch-nazis-o-doom, to ultra-Flaggrantly Wrong-movies-are-accurate types. And most of both groups (but not all, of course) are too elitist for their own good. But I do airsoft, not reenactment. ;D So I use something that can pass from a distance and appeal to the digital-fashion-victims and gear-addicts. WW2 looks, and modern comfort. This way maybe we can attract people to our hobby. They will try for authenticity later, they need to try it before. |
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Post by savoy6 on Jul 17, 2007 7:41:19 GMT -5
this has been the progression i've seen many go into in this end of the airsoft pool...the 30" passable impression first,then as they see those with better impressions and their interest grows they do more work into pulling kit together....from what i've seen in 6 years there are more airsofters interested in WW2 stuff than WW2 reenactors interested in airsoft....
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Post by odinfish on Jul 17, 2007 9:37:23 GMT -5
That's true...but then there's a big difference in ego. There are a lot of reenactors who have the "I'm better than you and so is my gear" syndrome regardless if you're a fellow reenactor, airsofter, or otherwise. It's odd really...but it's something you can pick up from their forums as well as other online groups. I won't say that it's absent from airsoft because it's everywhere...but backstabbing is abundant amongst reenactors. LOL...then of course if you're a hardcore militaria collector then EVERYONE mentioned above is an silly pony...especially if you're using original equipment in your impression. Just relating my experience with people is all...  Mike |
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Post by binarypunisher on Jul 17, 2007 11:20:04 GMT -5
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Post by CharleyNovember on Jul 17, 2007 11:47:30 GMT -5
I think this is the key.
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Post by kellhound on Jul 17, 2007 18:44:22 GMT -5
Good. Now we must make sure the rest of the world understands it. |
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Post by stubblehopper on Jul 19, 2007 7:18:09 GMT -5
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), and reenactment outside napoleonics and romans it's frowned upon due to our recent history and a excess of pseudo-proto-nazi-wannabees.
