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Post by wwiiguy on Jun 13, 2016 22:46:47 GMT -5
Im looking at my GnG m1 rifle and im wondering.Should I stain it?I cant decide for the life of me.To me the stock looks a little reddish and not walnut but at the same time I know once I sand it down if i cant find a stain i like im up the creek without a paddle.
also anyone have any stain recommendations to give it the dark-dark walnut look?
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Post by volkssturm on Jun 14, 2016 11:14:21 GMT -5
Min-wax Gel-stain seems to work fairly well. I'm not sure what kind of wood they use (someone said poplar) but it seems a little tricky to stain. It doesn't stain evenly.
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Post by wwiiguy on Jun 14, 2016 19:27:51 GMT -5
does it take darkening easy? like linseed oil?
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Post by volkssturm on Jun 14, 2016 20:17:17 GMT -5
The gel-stain comes in different colors. I used hickory on a Dboys stock because I didn't want to go too dark. I haven't tried a GnG M1 stock. I found the wood took the stain in some places and not in others and I had to do repeated applications. The gelstain works pretty good because it's a gel. You can put it on pretty heavy and it stays there.
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Post by wwiiguy on Jun 14, 2016 21:55:46 GMT -5
Does linseed oil work well?
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Post by volkssturm on Jun 15, 2016 9:53:48 GMT -5
Linseed oil is one of the traditional stock finishes. But it doesn't color the wood. I think it gets darker with age, when newly applied it's almost clear, with maybe a slight amber tinge. I used tung oil refinishing a R/S riflestock. It's a good, hard finish, but it's also clear. If you want the stock to look dark you need to stain it before putting the finish on.
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Post by wwiiguy on Jun 16, 2016 1:11:18 GMT -5
Sorry i should have clarified i mean for darkening does linseed oil work well
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jun 16, 2016 18:19:41 GMT -5
It does over time with exposure to the elements but only works when applied over an existing stain. Most (but not all). wW2 issued Garands were a dark walnut but other medium shades were also issued. The GnG overall comes in a decent look but not one that I was 100% crazy about.
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Post by volkssturm on Jun 16, 2016 18:20:03 GMT -5
Linseed oil doesn't really darken the wood. You need a stain. The oil is just a protective layer to keep the wood from drying out.
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Post by wwiiguy on Jun 16, 2016 20:00:44 GMT -5
It does over time with exposure to the elements but only works when applied over an existing stain. Most (but not all). wW2 issued Garands were a dark walnut but other medium shades were also issued. The GnG overall comes in a decent look but not one that I was 100% crazy about. I agree I like the stain but i cant tell in videos it seems to have a reddish tint to it but in pictures it looks decent i would end up restaining anyway but is the wood color good enought to possiblt be a wwii looking weapon
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Post by wwiiguy on Jun 16, 2016 20:05:54 GMT -5
and does it have the red tint?
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jun 16, 2016 20:14:32 GMT -5
I have seen and handled the GnG as well as actual M1 Garands. I would have no issue with the look of the wood which I would put at 95% spot on. I did not recall a reddish tint. The ICS wood with additional coats of Linseed Oil is better but the rifle demensions are a bit off.
The GnG is the better replica as far as looks are concerned. I would be more inclined to do a credible job of artificial aging then a stock restain.
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Post by wwiiguy on Jun 16, 2016 21:23:23 GMT -5
well it mush be video cameras because in videos is the only place the reddish tint is seen if you have handled one in real life
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Post by wwiiguy on Jun 16, 2016 21:28:38 GMT -5
Also are there any tutorials on weathering guns? or can someone pm me ideas for artifical weathering i know about the pewter paint on the gas cylinder and sanding wear down places with high grit sandpaper like the front sight the charging handle and buttplate but what about the wood?
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jul 8, 2016 9:18:15 GMT -5
There is a tutorial by Guinness and others on artificial aging with lots of pictures stickied here in the forum. For the wood he just added some small gouges and darkened areas where the natural oils from a soldiers hands would have created that effect. (Through the stock neck and underside of the stock where your non shooting hand would have steadied the rifle.
I find that small gouges followed with an application of black shoe polish wiped down creates a very satisfactory look. Once happy with the effect I overspray with a protective coat of dull coat.
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