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Post by ltjohn on Nov 1, 2016 14:21:21 GMT -5
Hi guys, i'm new to this forum but like all of you i like ww2 history and airsoft .A couple of years ago i tryed to start an airsoft group but i couldn 't do it because we were just 3 people .This year i bought an 82nd airborne m42 jump suit and the idea of starting an airsoft group came back.I found 8 people interessted about ww2 so, i tought i could make 2 divisions : Wehrmacht ( since 1 of my friend has a german uniform and gear ) and U.S Airborne . Ad example 5 months ago we did a battled ( D-Day) and the objectives were to capture saint mere eglise and to hold a bridge . The scenario was fantastic and U.S troops won but i remarked that all the guys appart me and the Wehrmacht leader didn't followed the orders that we gaved and almost everyone didnt' respected the strategies and tactics that were applied in the real life battle and they were pretty much indisciplinated .I tought that a training session would "transform" my teammates into better airsoft players but that didnt'happend . I would like to give me some advices about how could i and my teammates become better airsoft players and i would like also if you could give me some ideas about how could i train the U.S division to become more accurate in the movements , tactics, strategies etc. Thank you
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Post by stuka on Nov 2, 2016 11:02:27 GMT -5
Well real life tactics don't always translate into airsoft. If you're trying to very specifically follow US army instruction, that may be difficult as those in the Army went through bootcamp and would have hopefully been more disciplined to follow such tactics. I would suggest doing simple things like presenting the idea of suppressing fire rather than saying "Person A shoots 5 times while person b moves up then person b shoots 5 times as person a moves up". Simple maneuvers would be better to start off with than if the group wants too or is showing discipline in the simple stuff than you can try to be more historically tactical if you REA::Y want to achieve that.
If the group doesn't want to do it, it doesn't matter what you want out of them it's not going to happen. I would suggest giving them a reason to want to show up if that is an issue. Instead of just doing tactics in your backyard, go out to your local airsoft place and play with them and try to implement the stuff while in games and going over it in between games
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Post by ltjohn on Nov 2, 2016 12:45:28 GMT -5
OK thank you very much Stuka. Ad example on 13 november i'm going to play with them and like you said i will try to explain them some combat maneuvers
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 2, 2016 15:51:46 GMT -5
If your group can just get down fire and maneuver and basic formations that would be huge. much easier to learn than it is to do. Very very basic stuff is harder than most people realize. As Stuka said by the time US troops hit Normandy most had trained together almost daily for 2 plus YEARs! Even new replacements had 90 + days of Infantry training between basic and advanced Infantry Training. Another potential issue is a question of credibility. Unless you have valid background yourself (which you may have?) Why should they have faith in what and how you plan to teach them.
Battlesim on YouTube has some decent tutorials on basic Infantry tactics. I'm sure there are others. They are not as effective of course as actual walk through but at least they are a start?
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Post by ltjohn on Nov 4, 2016 12:56:08 GMT -5
Thank you very much guys
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 4, 2016 13:27:28 GMT -5
Good luck with it. I am a big fan of incorporating a training element into all of my events as it always adds a great deal to the emmersion. Failing the ability to do any formal training without telling anyone I typical set up the events so the first and sometimes the first two mission blocks have no (or very little) contact. This gives each side a chance to maneuver in the field together and practice interaction while getting used to each other. Focusing on gap intervals, formations,movement by bounds and communicating. It probably sounds boring but in fact it makes the contact periods that much more intense and realistic.
I simply direct both sides to conduct patrols in significantly different areas of the field for the first mission or two.
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Post by ltjohn on Nov 5, 2016 3:14:35 GMT -5
Thank you ,on 13 of november i 'm going to play with them and i will keep you in touch. Thanks again .
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