you mentioned wanting a few phrases to use for common everyday conversations. Were you just kidding or being serious? If serious, then what are some things you were thinking of? Like how are you, etc.? If so, then I am sure I can give you quite a few.
Serious, Yes anything like, "hows your wound?" or "I heard were gonna be relieved soon", you know stuff theyd say to bring up the morale. Also Phrases like "Loaded" or "enemy in site commander". Anything that some of the artillery guys can say. Then just like the basics such as "please, thank you, how are you doing". Also does anyone know how to say yes to a command? Like if an order is given...oh say....to an artillery battery how would one answer and finish that call? Thanks Jaeger.
Post by spitfire740 on Feb 21, 2007 21:48:35 GMT -5
the thing with german (Along with many other languages) is that they have different nouns. There is masculin, feminine, and neuter (maybe more?), so basically it is like different ways of saying "The." That's why the word orders are mixed up, and not exactly in the same sequence as English sentences. Does that make sense? Like, it's hard to memorize the phrases, unless you understand the different cases and appropriate way to say it. Once you udnerstand the cases, everything starts making sense.
Post by Ersatzjack on Feb 23, 2007 21:25:10 GMT -5
Here is another way to say quiet or shut-up and since I don't know German I relied on the translator and my wife who spent some years there. Still, I'd like to know what the experts make of this phrase. I want to yell... "Shut your beak!"
My wife says, "Hauf dem schnabel!"
The computer says, "Schliessen sie ihren schnabel!"
Which if any applies?
Last Edit: Feb 23, 2007 21:25:33 GMT -5 by Ersatzjack
The price good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men - Plato
I must admit that I have never heard "Hauf dem Schnabel!" (it is probably used...just not sure how haufen is used in the meaning), but "Schliessen sie ihren Schnabel!" could work (it sounds a bit formal though...at least to me). If you want to tell someone to shut their mouth (in a rude way), there are a number of ways to do it. One can say "Halt's Maul!" (literally hold your mouth/yapper). One can also say "Halten sie die Schnauze!" (hold your snout), or "Halten sie die Klappe!" (hold your flap/shutter). "Halt den Mund!" can also work (literally close the mouth). Not sure how kindly people will look upon you if you just go around using these on a regular basis , but quite funny none the less!
"hauf" means nothing.... ( "zu hauf" means enough) "Haufen" means cluster But " Halt´s Maul " would be the most used version ;D
Has jaeger answered you already? otherways try to make a list... and we will try to answer it, i think others also want to know the phrases..
loaded- geladen loaded and locked- geladen und gesichert ( btw i learned: "Lauf frei, Sicherheit vorhanden" wich means something like: nothing in the barrel , safety activated") enemy in sight commander- Feind im Visier, Kommandant please,thank you,how are you going- Bitte, Danke, (i hope i understood right- you ask how he feels) Wie gehts?to commrad Wie geht es ihnen?- to commander
an artillery would,for exqample, quit a radio command with
"Jawohl, Herr Hauptmann, then repeating the command Artilleriestellung 24- Ende." or "Verstanden, Herr Hauptmann 5 Salve auf die Koordinaten XYZ Bitte um Bestätigung!"
(understood , Mr 5 volleys to coordinates XYZ please affirm!")
Post by Rock of the Marne on Oct 13, 2007 23:11:24 GMT -5
BEKANNTMACHUNG In dem unter meinem Oberkommando stehenden Kriegsschauplatz wird hiermit eine Militiarregierung fur die besezten deutschen Gebiete errichtet. Die Militrregierung verfugt uber die Vollmachten fur Verwaltung sowie Gesetzgebung und Rechtssprechung, die in meiner Person als Oberbefehlshaber der Alliierten Steitkrafte Und Militar-Gouverneur vereingt sind. what's that mean
Announcement: In the theater/area of war falling under the command of my headquarters, there will from this point forward be a military government set up for the occupied German areas. The military government is in charge of the powers of the local governments/normal governments, such as legislation and the provision of rights, that are united under my control as supreme commander of allied forces and military governor.
Post by bootyourface on Dec 2, 2007 22:10:03 GMT -5
Well, what I'd like to know... Does anyone have any suggestions for books/cd's that help you learn german. I looked on Amazon, and there are a lot. Maybe someone who's used one of these could let us know how it worked out for them.
Post by 101steasykid on Dec 2, 2007 22:13:17 GMT -5
I am in German 2 in my Sophomore Year of Highschool. Komm mit! series is what we used during the 1st course during my Freshman year. I highly recommend it. I think cd's move along to fast, while books you can go at a slow pace. Learn how to pronouce the letters, and it is simple as that. It is a really interesting and fun language.
It will help you pick up basic vocabulary using pictures/videos and assist to a certain degree with pronunciation. The good thing about these series is that they are cheap and provide assitance that audio-visual learners can use. Just hearing words properly pronounced helps. However, they often lack very good speech-recognition programs as well as precise grammar explanations. I have used both the deluxe edition and an early version and found them quite different. The earlier version was good in that it had basic phrases, numbers and greetings. The deluxe edition did seem to lack this. Despite this, my favorite thing about the deluxe edition is its dictionary. It is really top notch and I was surprised. German was my major it college and I must say that I got alot of use out of that dictionary. The best thing is that it is fast. As far as online dictionaries go, LEO is also great. As far as grammar books, I have heard good things about Komm mit!, but have never actually used it before. I should also mention that Rosetta Stone has very good software, but that it is too expensive. In my opinion, for a beginner, a class is always best. When a class isn't available (or if you plan on taking a class and want to prepare before hand), then go with a computer program and a basic grammar book. Starting with basic phrases and numbers is always good. Learning to pronounce them properly (by following audio examples given to you) and then moving on to basic grammar. Again, this is just my opinion and what I have experienced. Let me know if it helps.
Post by 101steasykid on Dec 3, 2007 16:35:07 GMT -5
I 2nd that Jaeger. If you have the cash, Rosetta Stone would be a great choice. I think the government uses it to teach government personel to speak different languages. Also, I think UPS uses it to teach their employees how to speak Spanish.
Post by Tough Ombre on Dec 3, 2007 18:31:46 GMT -5
Though all of those are viable resources to learn modern German, you have to remeber that the German Language has been literally rewritten a few times since WWII so a few terms will be the same, but you will find that most have changed. The most recent rewrite was in the late 1990's. I think if you can afford it a private tutor would be the best, if you REALLY want to learn German that badly, as i know my German teachers have some knowledge of what is now called "Old German" which is that that was used during the time period we prefer to represent, though they just dont teach it. -Cary
"I'm a dog chasing cars. I don't have plans. I just do things. I'm not a schemer. "
This is a very valid point. If you are looking to use the german for an impression, then plenty of the vocabulary varies quite a bit from the German spoken at that time. There are especially many American words that have been either directly or indirectly adopted. Ultimately, if you were to learn the language for use in reenactments, then only the basics are necessary anyways. Pronunciation of High German is pretty much universal (at least for the last century) and therefore learning to properly pronounce today's German will be key to pronouncing any older terms (should they come up...and I doubt they would since we are sticking with basic here). The words are what seem to have changed as with any other language.
Post by bootyourface on Dec 15, 2007 19:13:08 GMT -5
Thank you everyone for that. Seeing as how I live in Winnipeg, in Canada, airsoft reenacting, to my knowlage, is only done by maybe 20 people. I'm over estimating. This would be more of a personal gain, as how in highschool, I would have liked to learn German instead of French. Rosetta Stone is very up there in price. I'm sure I could take a university course for that kind of money, and actualy have someone telling me I'm doing it right or wrong. But, I will pick up that German Deluxe one however! Thanks again!
Panzerlied 1. Ob's stürmt oder schneit, Ob die Sonne uns lacht, Der Tag glühend heiß Oder eiskalt die Nacht. Bestaubt sind die Gesichter, Doch froh ist unser Sinn, Ist unser Sinn; Es braust unser Panzer Im Sturmwind dahin.
2. Mit donnernden Motoren, Geschwind wie der Blitz, Dem Feinde entgegen, Im Panzer geschützt. Voraus den Kameraden, Im Kampf steh'n wir allein, Steh'n wir allein, So stoßen wir tief In die feindlichen Reihn.
3. Wenn vor uns ein feindliches Heer dann erscheint, Wird Vollgas gegeben Und ran an den Feind! Was gilt denn unser Leben Für unsres Reiches Heer? Ja Reiches Heer? Für Deutschland zu sterben Ist uns höchste Ehr.
4. Mit Sperren und Minen Hält der Gegner uns auf, Wir lachen darüber Und fahren nicht drauf. Und droh'n vor uns Geschütze, Versteckt im gelben Sand, Im gelben Sand, Wir suchen uns Wege, Die keiner sonst fand.
5. Und läßt uns im Stich Einst das treulose Glück, Und kehren wir nicht mehr Zur Heimat zurück, Trifft uns die Todeskugel, Ruft uns das Schicksal ab, Ja Schicksal ab, Dann wird uns der Panzer Ein ehernes Grab.
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