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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on Feb 25, 2008 14:10:25 GMT -5
Okay guys, I got to thinking about how the Midwest guys have some Airsofters doing Russian impressions:
Therefore, how can we pit the Germans against British, American and Russian Allied forces in the same Airsoft game scenario?
Then, in doing some research I thought of Elbe Day! I think in and around Elbe Day we could conjure up a scenario pitting The Russian, American and British scouting parties against the small arms of German resistance pockets defending the Fatherland.
Personally as an Airsofter who does a German impression myself; I would find it exciting to be surrounded by enemies in making my last ditch effort to defend________.
Thoughts everyone?
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Post by ersatzjack2 on Feb 25, 2008 15:03:12 GMT -5
You could do that. In October when we did the Patton Unleashed event we had that scenario designed as a hypothetical because there were Russians, Germans, U.S. and partisans aplenty at the game. We had so many partisans and irregulars that we used them as Poles for a 1939 event where the Russians and Germans were allied. Being creative with the forcepools is almost necessary at these events. In Nashville we didn't have to do that but then again the turnout was small. The main thing is to have fun and events. You can always isolate groups for pictures and video and control (or try to) what gets posted in an after action. I say if someone has a WW2 impression or a good partisan impression, we can always fit them in somewhere.
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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on Feb 25, 2008 15:13:07 GMT -5
ersatzjack2:
Exactly right!!! I was just pondering some ways we can have largely mixed WW2 impressions and still pull off a hypothetical but also realistic scenario.
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Post by Russian on Feb 25, 2008 20:47:27 GMT -5
This is fairly common in blank reenacting, and is called an "East meets West" event. Could work, but, kind of a short span in the history of the war (a few days).
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Post by Garrick Udet on Feb 27, 2008 14:37:42 GMT -5
I think Majorray and I are of the same mind on this, but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. With the varied units and impressions, an event planner has to play the trade-off between maximizing attendance on one hand, and historical accuracy of the scenario setting on the other. As a newbie to WW2 Airsoft and WW2 re-enacting in general (aside from lots of WW2-themed Paintball Big games 10+ events with 150-400 people), I tend to favor well attended games with a historical setting over maximum historical accuracy in crafting scenario skirmishes that would limit the units and impressions present. I mean realistically, if you had a 2:1:1 ratio or Germans to Russians to Americans/British you could do a Europa Scenario which would squeeze the Germans between the Americans and British in the West and Russians in the East. Essentially you'd be creating a broad-stroked re-enactment of the war in Europe from 1944 on rather than focusing on a specific battle. For the Wisconsin 'Patton Unleashed' event. The organizers (Gryphon and BA-64) did an excellent job of assessing the make-up of the participants' impressions and crafting 3 unique skirmish scenarios that ultimately were set in three distinct periods of the war. The result was great fun, balanced teams and a very positive upbeat atmosphere. That event is what set the hook in me and got me into this hobby (enough to plunk down for a pretty nice Panzergrenadier impression). As far as circa Elbe Day scenarios go, I'm all for them. Use the time setting and craft some totally fictional scenarios around it. Some I can think of off the top of my head: 1. A high-level German officer is trying to escape to Switzerland with ill-gotten loot. Victory conditions: The German VIP or Sub-commander reaches the safe zone with a briefcase or other object representing the loot. 2. A friendly fire incident causing US and Soviet forces to engage each other, Germans can decide which side (or neither, or both) to lend their loyalty to. Using the Germans as a wild card team that could decide as a collective whether to be loyal to the US or the Soviets, and if they can't agree the Germans would start fighting themselves- Totally crazy a logistical nightmare I know, but would keep everybody on their toes. 3. I'm sure there's more, but I can only spend so much time on this at work...
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Post by Lev on Feb 27, 2008 15:18:25 GMT -5
Scenarios invariably have to be adapted on the spot depending on how many people show up at a particular event. For this reason it's good to keep the scenarios somewhat "loose." If your scenario has the Germans on defense, but 3x as many Germans show up as allies, you may have to rethink it! This is one of the reasons we've chosen to invest our efforts in a core set of rules that are adaptable to a larger variety of scenarios in the MOA (Midwest Ostfront Airsoft). Then all that remains for scenarios is to pick your victory conditions, starting spots and regen areas. It keeps things nice and simple. On a side note, I've noticed that a lot of the airsoft events being advertised are very heavy on scenario & background while being too light on logistics and planning. This ratio needs to be reversed for successful events. The first rule to hosting a good event is to understand that nobody gives a rip about your rules, and the more of them you have, the more disappointed you will become.
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Post by Garrick Udet on Feb 27, 2008 15:32:28 GMT -5
Udo my good man! I couldn't have said it any better myself.
I would just add that the period when everybody is getting chrono'd and geared up would be the ideal time for the event organizers to firm up the variables that Udo mentioned above.
The historical background and setting is important, there are some guys who will tailor their impression to it (hey a 1945 event, my Stg-44 will fit in!).
Flexibility and adaptability are key for event organizers, as well as having a site that is well suited for a variety of scenarios. As Udo said, if you have a great disparity in team sizes and try to rigidly stick to your pre-scripted skirmish designs, I'd put money on the fact that you'll have some unhappy guys who aren't going to spend the time in the car to come to another one of your events.
That said, a well planned and executed event will be plastered all over these boards in glowing AARs. Personally I'm making a point of trying to get out to a NY event this year after seeing how they pulled off the Battle of the Bulge in December. Everybody had a blast and there was not one negative AAR in the thread.
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