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Post by CharleyNovember on Aug 22, 2005 23:53:43 GMT -5
must be me guys i'll give it a right click I swear you people are going to get me to drop 500.00 on one of these thigns if I am not careful.
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Post by happytanker on Aug 24, 2005 9:14:05 GMT -5
Nice review, pictures and movie. The M1 sure looks cool. It seems that the bolt cycle a bit slow and weak from watching the short clip, don't you all thing so? I know we have a "few good machanic" here in this forum. I am looking forward in seeing your tickling of the airsoft to make it shoot great. What is the grouping of the bb's? How far away can it shoot? Great to see someone post those stat With only 8 rounds per mag, the GI will sure be on a disadvantage as coming against the MP40, MG42 and MP44. We sure need a 60mm mortar and a .30cal browning...LOL
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Post by gunfreak on Sept 1, 2005 10:21:14 GMT -5
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Post by CPL. Mills 2nd Rangers on Sept 1, 2005 13:12:39 GMT -5
You should take yours apart and tighten all the screws. I did a week ago, and low and behold all the screws were loose!!
After I tightened them, the gun works 1000% better, and the action fly's back alot faster.
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Post by gunfreak on Sept 1, 2005 13:58:58 GMT -5
gonna do that tomorrow, to day, i got it like 4, si i havn't had to to snugle with it yet, gonne spend all day tomorrow to get to know the rifle
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Post by walker on Sept 1, 2005 21:44:09 GMT -5
nice pics eh? and yeah i think most guns would do better with a little tweaking.
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Post by gunfreak on Sept 3, 2005 7:16:12 GMT -5
I've tested my gun now, and it's not working very god(or at all)
there don't sime to be any safety on the gas, you can you fill and fill until it explodes. i filled gas for 15 sec, loaded 5 clips. and sat out to test the gun.
the first round what 12feet(not yards but feet) the seven next round went maybe 2-3 feet then i popt inn the next clip, same thing again first(12feet) rest(2feet)
third clips got of 2 round that all the gas just leaked out,
tried to refill it, got 1 clips out with same results of the rounds, and the gun clicked on the second clips and the gas leaded out.
now I've open the rifles and scoured out the 4 secures that i think i holding the gas tank, then secured them back inn and tight ed them,
gonna test more later and see of that helped any
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Post by pointman on Sept 3, 2005 12:18:38 GMT -5
Ok, you stated that the Gas is sotred in the rifle itself rather than in the clips....
so if that valve goes or any of the other problems common in gas weapons, you are out of the fight, right?
oopps...sorry about the post, I just read the first page and didnt realize there were 3 pages before I added to the thread...
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Post by gunfreak on Sept 18, 2005 6:30:04 GMT -5
here's a tip i got on arnie's that realy helped me, when i use do what he did, the rifle works great.
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Post by Tricky9914 on Sept 26, 2005 18:22:42 GMT -5
I just ordered mine from Redwolf, and they said its on the way and should be here in about a week (unless it gets stuck in customs, god forbid) haha, anyways, ill leave my 2 cents on the M1 as soon as i get to tinker with it:)
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Post by phantom12321 on Sept 26, 2005 22:27:23 GMT -5
So overall what is the consensus view of the Garand? great, good, okay, could be better, not so great, pretty crappy, don't waste your time?
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Post by Capt. Zak on Sept 27, 2005 7:11:21 GMT -5
Customs sucks! I have a S&W Victory Revolver, & .357 Magnum in customs now for 10 days! It left Hong Kong and made it to O'Hare Aiport in one friggen day. 10 days to check 2 airsoft guns? Flippin' a-holes!
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Post by CPL. Mills 2nd Rangers on Sept 27, 2005 11:00:05 GMT -5
I've never had that happen. the most I've had a gun in customs was 2 days
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Post by Tricky9914 on Sept 27, 2005 18:04:43 GMT -5
I really hope I dont get my baby stuck in customs. Yes, I call it my baby, cause Ive wanted an M1 garand sinse i was about 7, hahahah, and now its on its way ;D!!! I do have a quick question for those that have their M1. Is the clip strong enough to eject from the M1 in a standing position and falll all the way to the ground without shadering? I know they are made of plastic so i could just see them landing on cement and breaking in 2. Let me know as soon as possible:) thanks guys. Chris
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Post by gunfreak on Sept 28, 2005 13:07:12 GMT -5
I test fire mine in the basement with cement flor, standing up, no problem, it's fleksible plastic så it wont break...
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Post by Tricky9914 on Sept 29, 2005 17:21:14 GMT -5
I FINALLY GOT IT!!!! WOOT! my M1 is here. I got a chance to fire some rounds off, and i say that it is an all around GREAT airsoft gun, and you guys need to get one ASAP!
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Post by phantom12321 on Sept 29, 2005 22:33:39 GMT -5
No one answered my question so I'll say it again. What is the consensus view of the Garand? I know there have been some issues with pressure inconsitencies and the fact that you can't fully load a clip. And one other question can you turn off the clip ejection or do you have to go find them every time?
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Post by safemilk on Sept 29, 2005 23:16:39 GMT -5
I like it, but mine is really really lose. Pvt. Mills said that if you tightened it up it should be fine. But for some reason even after I adjusted it, the top section and now even the barrel shift around an obscene amount. If I could get a real fix to that I would be in business! The wood seems a little fragile in some spots, but other than that I love it!
Not sure about clip ejection options, sorry. BTW Any tips for loading the gas more efficently?
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Post by CPL. Mills 2nd Rangers on Sept 29, 2005 23:35:54 GMT -5
the front end of the gun will wiggle alittle. on the real garand the front wiggles alittle, its called a floating berral I believe. did you tighten all the alen screws? when I took mine apart I did, they were all loose. you can load the clips to full capacity.
sometimes the bottom of the spring will catch on the bottom of the clip. you just have to push the spring back into place.
I have yet to field test the gun. hopfully I will tomorrow. you cannot turn the ejection off.
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Post by Tricky9914 on Oct 6, 2005 10:58:38 GMT -5
My Garand came pretty tight, It doesnt seeme to be lose at all. I have noticed tha tat times the lever on the spring of the clip catches on the catch in the gun, but like mills said, if you just push it back a bit it goes right in. But thats a bit of a pain to have to do that in hte heat of a fire fight. There doesnt seem to me to be a great deal in inconsistancy in the power of each shot. I have shot off just a few rounds (what came with the gun) possibly 30 rounds. I ordered more from redwolf, so I can play around with it more. My over all view on this airsoft gun is that it is great and welll worth the money. And I think everyone needs to consider getting this, especially if your doing an allied impression. Good luck with it. Chris
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Post by CPL. Mills 2nd Rangers on Oct 6, 2005 15:17:32 GMT -5
event tho it comes tight, you should still take it apart and check all the screws, cause when tom got his, he thought it was tight till he boke it down and check all the screws,
so check them ALL.
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Post by 2ndBat on Oct 7, 2005 11:36:43 GMT -5
I agree that after your initial 6 or seven clips 50 rounds or so you should disassemble and inspect all of the screws and tighten as needed. Mine didn't work loose to any noticeable degree till after several hundred rounds and I was beginning to think Marushin had loctited them prior to shipping. Obviously not so I applied blue loctitie to all the screws that had loosened even a little and all seems to be fine. I will however continue to monitor and inspect like a good little soldier. As with any GBB you need to lubricate the moving parts well being sure to only use pure silicon oil. No WD-40 or any other lubricant with solvent of any kind as it'll attack the seals. Like others I am enjoying far better FPS with the heavier .45 gram then the .34 gram that came with it. I am using HFC 134 and getting about 3 1/2 clips to 4 clips from every charge. The gun really started shooting and functioning far better after around 100 rounds through the gun. I have skirmished with it once and managed to get at least one elimination and survived by retreating on a pre-planned route. (Tough to do battle against AEGs with hi caps!)
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Post by gunslinger6 on Oct 8, 2005 13:39:44 GMT -5
so what do u do about the clips? to me its gonna be a bitch to catch/pick them up after every 8 shots. there like 10 bucks aren't they? to bad there not like a buck a peice so u could buy a bunch and just let them fall to the ground mabye some brand like star will make clips like they did in the same way as m16 mags so they come in packages and are lower quality and cheaper
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Post by Capt. Zak on Oct 8, 2005 21:42:15 GMT -5
Does the clip eject and fly 10 feet away or does it just pop up to let you know you're out of ammo?
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Post by gunfreak on Oct 9, 2005 6:07:59 GMT -5
mine just pop up about 3-6inches and fall next to me.
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Post by 2ndBat on Oct 9, 2005 16:38:22 GMT -5
Like the real thing, the clip pops just out of the reciever group flying perhaps six inches up and typically landing at your feet. The bolt locks back in the open bolt position so you can slide a new clip in. (Not as effortless as I'd like, but with practice I'm getting pretty good at it.)
The clips are robust enough that after several ejections hitting my concrete garage floor they are just fine and continue to function without problems. If you step on them they'll be done however.
I count rounds (especially during a game) and anticipate the clip flying out so I can typically find it immediately. I literally play with the anticipation that I will no doubt lose some. The thought was not to waste time looking for the clip if the heat of the action held my focus elsewhere and perhaps work your way back to your firing position between games to look around. Thus far I've been extremely lucky in that the clips have always popped out while I was in a stationary well concealed location and were right at arms length and could be easily scooped up and slid into a pouch. (i use a gas mask bag as a dump pouch.)
You have to understand I've now only had five clips pop out during an actual skirmish so my experience is limited. I bought 10 spare clips which is more then I anticipate surviving long enough to fire in a game.
I have thus far fired 800 to 1000 rounds though the gun in practice and perhaps 60 rounds in a skirmish.
I did discover a new screw that was well hidden and also needed locktite. It holds the cylinder tube in the gas resrevoir so it was more then just a little vital. It worked loose and the gun leaked massive gas with the first shot making me think I'd ruptured the small holding tank. (The bolt didn't cock back and no round came out) Glad it wasn't in a game! It scared me as I thought for sure the gun was toast and would now be a nice visual prop!
Fortunately the gun disassembles very easily and with little inspection the problem became obvious. I saw at the front of the reciever group the O ring assembly protruding out of the gas reservoir and had not remembered seeing it before. I pulled it completely out and noticed two small holes in the thin portion of the (piston?) I figured they needed to be slid in pointed upward as they clearly are the vents that function to power the blowback. I slid it back in and realized there had to be a screw holding it all together that had worked lose. But where?
I finally found it with no help from the exploded view in the manual. It's not very big and very well hidden. Thank god it had only worked lose and not come out! It's up at the base of the breech (where the Bbs feed into the barrel)
The tiny screw is tightened with the smallest hex wrench (included). It is straight down from the breach at the very front of the BB feed trench. To access it pull the bolt back and lock it and glance straight down at the breech. To give you a reference point the same sized hex screw that handles the hop up is just above the breech. (See picture in an earlier post) The hop up screw goes in horizontally toward the muzzle where this screw goes in vertically. (Straight down) It'll be very hard to get loctite to so I'll no doubt have to remove it (yikes) and apply a little glue and then reinstall.
As you can tell from all the posts the Garand is awesome, but persnickety in much the way that the actual gun was not. Like a real GI you're going to have to pamper and baby this gun if you're going to have success with it and you're going to have to practice like crazy to get comfortable enough with it to use in a game. Most folks will find themselves using it as a wonderful plinker and show piece which is probably the role it was designed for.
Someone has to make a Garand AEG if they are going to be come common place in skirmishing.
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Post by gunslinger on Oct 9, 2005 20:33:55 GMT -5
mabye one thing someone could try is to get one of those little nets that fits over your hand to catch shell except use it to catch the clip, u can buy these at sportsmans guide
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Post by 2nd bat on Oct 11, 2005 17:14:28 GMT -5
Kinda ruin the visual impact don't ya think?
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Post by Russian on Oct 11, 2005 17:20:05 GMT -5
As you can tell from all the posts the Garand is awesome, but persnickety in much the way that the actual gun was not.
Wrong usage of the word persnickety...a better word would be cumbersome...just for the record.
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Post by 2nd bat on Oct 12, 2005 2:13:19 GMT -5
Cumbersome would suggest it was weighty or awkward which I don't fimnd to be the case. I submit for your edification the following synonyms of persnickety from Websters:
dainty, eclectic, exacting, fastidious, finical, finicky, fussy, nice, overparticular, picky-picky, select, selective.
Hmmmm..."persnickety" Pretty much the word I wanted to use. Thanks for the input however.
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