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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on Sept 28, 2006 10:24:26 GMT -5
Anyone ever use this gun? If so, could you tell me a little about it? What type of German solder was this issued to? What ranking German solder would this gun be issued to? Was this a late WWII gun or Early? All that good info would be very helpful thank you all ahead of time!
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Post by Gordak on Sept 28, 2006 10:27:56 GMT -5
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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on Sept 28, 2006 10:39:22 GMT -5
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo Elaborate please. “noooooooooo” is not helpful to me
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Post by CharleyNovember on Sept 28, 2006 10:39:58 GMT -5
I will take it Gordy...
It was never used by the German army in WW2 that we know of. If it is all you have then use it but there is a broom handle pistol that is not only more corrrect but I think it is cheaper as well. Also I am pretty sure come winter time your going to have a non-skirmishable gun.
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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on Sept 28, 2006 10:43:20 GMT -5
I will take it Gordy... It was never used by the German army in WW2 that we know of. If it is all you have then use it but there is a broom handle pistol that is not only more corrrect but I think it is cheaper as well. Also I am pretty sure come winter time your going to have a non-skirmishable gun. Ah, I am new to WWII, thanks; however this is not going to be my issued gun. I will use it in modern combat games then. I have a tanaka Kar-98 for my issued WWII Fallschirmjäger. Also, I am familiar with the broomstick. Thank you for your input guys!
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Post by YankeeDiv26 on Sept 28, 2006 13:36:12 GMT -5
haha gordak. but yea try to stray away from the carbine version.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Sept 28, 2006 16:39:24 GMT -5
They are a decently hard shooting and reliable gun (for a gas gun) and though not an actual, period correct, model do provide something of a vintage appearance. Like all gas guns they will be influenced by temperature extremes.
With so few affordable vintage appearing guns it's probably a worthwhile compromise weapon to consider. The correct broomhandle is a good gun as well, is a little less expensive and technically more correct. The broomhandled pistol would be a rare weapon in the hands of a WW2 combatant. So either replica / airsoft gun represent a compromise to authenticity. A reality that is inevitable due to the rarity of affordable WW2 replica models that shoot decently. You could do a lot worse.
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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on Sept 29, 2006 7:53:27 GMT -5
I’m looking for some low cost, but effective weapons for some of my team mates to get WWII weapons and gear. Gas guns seem to be the most appropriate as they are affordable and don’t break down as easily; at the moment everyone on our newly formed Fallschirmjäger unit is using gas guns.
Perhaps you guys could recommend some semi authentic acceptable weaponry for a 3rd Fallschirmjäger Division, 1st Parachute Rifle Regiment, and 8th air company based team. Right now we are looking at a unit with eight- kar-98’s and 1 para-MG-42 variant.
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Post by CharleyNovember on Sept 29, 2006 11:26:48 GMT -5
I feel if you really put forth the effort you could buy some of the cheaper 150.00 range springers some surplus Mauser stocks and make some K98's that look pretty good. Would cost you between 200.00-300.00 maybe a little less depending on what your base gun was. I used an upgraded APS2 to convert because at the time there were no decent rifles that were cheaper to me. Check out these pictures and see if maybe it inspires you some. The rifle was converted just like I was saying and provides an excellent skirmish weapon summer or winter because it is spring powered. It shoots consistantly 500-510fps. I can provide more detailed photos of just the gun upon request for you. www.scenarioairsoft.com/ww2/impressions/newfj1.jpgwww.scenarioairsoft.com/ww2/impressions/newfj2.jpgwww.scenarioairsoft.com/ww2/impressions/newfj3.jpg
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Post by 2nd Bat on Sept 29, 2006 20:06:52 GMT -5
Dan
I think your custom Kar looks great.
With the new inexpensive and apparently decent performing (Good FPS and reliable) spring and gas powered bolt action rifles it seems like a project worth looking into. Is there a particular model out there that you think would be the best base gun? I know there is am APS knock off and a VSR Marui knock off that are supposed to be pretty darn good.
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Post by CharleyNovember on Sept 29, 2006 20:23:24 GMT -5
APS2 magwell is easier to use in this project. VSR has adjustable hopup. Those are the two things I look at. The VSR clone has the same magwell design and is better than APS clone I think really. I had interest in a Mosin Nagant and a Springfield neither of those panned out after all but I would love to do one or both. I don't see the justification on the Springfield as the Garand is a great weapon and would cost about the same and be semi auto not bolt action. Someone pay me to do a couple customes so I can buy one of Johns customs:)
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Post by 2nd Bat on Sept 29, 2006 22:46:49 GMT -5
I'm going to buy one of the VSR-11 (marui knock offs) as I'm hearing really good things about it and it's apparently a close enough copy that it comes with a spare 30 round Marui magazine and supposedly accepts all upgrade parts. I think it looks nice as well. Springfield wood and hardware seems to be a lot more expensive then KAR 98 hardware and wood but I'd still like to do a Springfield, cause I like US weapons and I haven't seen one done at a decent dollar amount. It'd also look great in an early war impression. I was surprised to learn that the Marines at Guadalcanal had not received Garands yet so the fight was fought with riflemen on both sides using bolt action rifles. Later Army units arriving on the island had Garands.
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Post by Doom on Nov 27, 2006 21:19:59 GMT -5
It may not be "WW2 accurate", but the HFC Mauser rifle shoots at 500-550fps with ease using propane. It's also DEADLY ACCURATE. It's FULL METAL & WOOD and only 149.99. I hide as a "sniper" and can outrange many AEG's on the field we play. We use the 50ft or more rule with fast shooting guns. And contrary to popular belief, it IS based on an actual Broomhandle Mauser rifle than was not widely used. It seems a lot of guys on this site can afford expensive guns, but for someone on tight a budget the HFC is a steal. The Broomhandle pistol version does not have the same range or fps due to the much shorter barrel.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 27, 2006 23:44:45 GMT -5
I agree that the performance / dollar value for the HFC Mauser is quite good. They do shoot great. In my opinion and I have stated it before, it looks better on a WW2 airsoft battlefield then a contemporary AEG wrapped in burlap. With so few viable and affordable options I think it represents a good choice. Others I know, disagree.
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Post by Doom on Nov 28, 2006 0:29:55 GMT -5
When doing a WW2 impression, I carry either a Maruzen p38, HFC PPK or Broomhandle Mauser as my pistol and (until I can part with 500 bucks for a Tanaka Mauser) I use the Broomhandle Mauser rifle on days when I feel like just kicking back and sniping people. Having a 30 round magazine with semi-auto is nice sometimes. Red gas brings the fps up very high and I use much heavier bb's to compensate. They fly fast and far. I can't really say anything bad about it, other than the looks. If there was a decent German AEG I could pick up, I would. It's a shame that the TOP MP40 is soooo bad.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Nov 28, 2006 14:29:35 GMT -5
I'm sure you do realize that with red gas even though your heavier Bbs bring the FPS down, your jouelles (the impact power) remains just as high as it would be if you were still shooting .25s
The gas gun you're using exceeds alot of fields FPS rules and your opponents hopefully are okay with that kind of power (Red Gas) I'm sure you engage from a decent range with it as it's a gun best used in a stand off role anyway.
Those guys shoot hard and for an airsoft gun quite accurately. Again for the dollars they represent a good value (in warm weather areas.) From an authenticity point of view lets continue to hope more and more affordable options become available. (especially in AEGs)
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