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Post by bluecrabofpain on Mar 29, 2007 20:45:06 GMT -5
I have a small favor to ask of all of you. Could someone here provide a very brief summary on how to convert a real gun (working or deactivated) into a usable airsoft gun? OR provide a link to a resource explaining how? If you didn't already know, I'm a fan of USSR and Japanese WWII weapons, but there are virtually none on the market, except for the KTW models which are extravagantly expensive. I'm going to BS myself an answer here; but I'm assuming that I could buy a real Mosin-Nagant rifle for about $70, then buy a super cheap bolt action airsoft gun, rip out the internal components and stick them inside of the gun. If there's a lot I'm missing, please tell me. Last but not least, If I went to a certified gunsmith and asked them to convert it for me, would he be able to do that? Thank you very much for your time.
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Post by CharleyNovember on Mar 29, 2007 22:38:13 GMT -5
You pretty much answered your own question there. It is a little more complicated to do than it is to explain but if you go slow and are careful it is nothing the average handy person can't accomplish. A gunsmith would probally be able to do it for you but not sure how much it would cost or if they would do it?
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Post by Jager.Drü on Mar 29, 2007 22:40:31 GMT -5
I don't think a gun smith would, Also I don't know if it "legal" or not to even covert a real steel gun into airsoft. Gun smith works on real steel, if you have air smith around you they might be able to.
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Post by bluecrabofpain on Mar 30, 2007 9:01:10 GMT -5
so, from what you guys are telling me, i could actually just buy a model gun and fit that with airsoft components? or are model guns harder to work with? Also, im going to make some assumptions (tell me if i am wrong). I am assuming that it would be easier to make a bolt-action rifle than it would be an automatic or semi, and that spring action is much easier to implement than gas or electric.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Mar 30, 2007 15:59:56 GMT -5
True on all counts. Spring powered, bolt action conversions are the easiest. The Mosin Nagant is a great base rifle to use as they are cheap cheap to buy. The base bolt action guns I used were under $60.00 I've seen Mosin Nagants go for well under a $100.00 The project is quite affordable. A dremel, a work area and some time are all you need. A gunsmith if he was willing to take on the project would probably end up costing you as much as the custom guns you've already decided are outside your price range.
Because the project requires time and concentrated focus it is expensive to expect someone else to do it for you without charging alot of money to take it on. It isn't greed that causes the custom gun manufacturers to charge 1200 plus dollars for their creations. It truly makes doing it yourself highly rewarding.
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Post by jimseery on Mar 30, 2007 20:06:22 GMT -5
I'll throw my two cents in. First, a real steel gunsmith might not know what you are talking about. Second, if he did you couldn't afford him. Gunsmiths tend to think differently than airsoft people do. They think in thousands of an inch and precisian fitting. They make weapons, we make toys. Next, you're picking the hardest guns to model. Why? Because when you are making a replica of something you try to fool the eye. If you think in terms of those simple "drill rifles" that have been around forever and are carried by any number of high school drill teams. They are simply a silohette (sp?) of a Springfied with a pipe sticking out of one end, but everone that see one says "it's a Springfield". So, how do you make your basic springer look like like a Moisin-Nagant. Unless someone has found a better way you get a USR 11 springer as cheap as you can. 2nd Bat is quoting $60, but I don't know if that is retail or wholesale. Than get a M-N, I would recommend the rifle or the 38 carbine. I have a 44 carbine and the attached bayont, while neat, is more than you want to deal with. Then put them side by side on a work bench and try to figure out how to combine them into a reasonable replica. This is not a put down. At the moment I'm trying to do the same thing with a 98K. If you look at the M-N what identifies it as a M-N. It's slender, that makes it hard to stuff the airsoft parts in. It has a steight bolt, that's a nightmare. On most modern rifles there are two arches (this is not the right term) that are a major part of the action and in most rifles the bolt is behing the second arch. In the M-N the bolt is before the second arch and the arch itself is split to allow passage of the bolt in cocking the rifle. I'm not sure how to get around that. Having said all that I would recommenc that, if you are old enough to have your own dough, buy a USR 11 and a M-N and start staring. If your not old enough start working on the old man, "Dad, it's a learning experience". I'm going to strongly support Tommygunners idea to have a seperate projects thread. There are to many talented people jumping onto the make it yourself bandwagon to ignore. Finally if you are anywhere in a reasonable travel distance of NE Colorado give me a yell. I'll show you my mistakes. Remember, if you say you can't do it you're always right.
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