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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 18:41:58 GMT -5
Post by sniper on Oct 29, 2007 18:41:58 GMT -5
Hi I am new to this group ,and I was wondering if any one owns a HFC C96 carbine ? I am thinking about getting one of these ,and I was wondering if I would be able to use one of these in the stricter games.Thank you
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 18:47:49 GMT -5
Post by Guinness on Oct 29, 2007 18:47:49 GMT -5
Sadly, the C96 Carbine is not an accurate weapon for WWII- none were used. So it would not be appropriate for use in a WW2AA ruleset game.
Lose the so called 'carbine', use the HFC M712 and add the wooden holster/stock combo and all is good.
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 19:06:19 GMT -5
Post by sniper on Oct 29, 2007 19:06:19 GMT -5
why dose the review for the carbin version say that it was used in ww2? If I can not use this gun could you suggest a gun that is not over $200.00?
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 19:10:27 GMT -5
Post by mccallion on Oct 29, 2007 19:10:27 GMT -5
a agm mp40 is 130 and the magz are 5 bux at airsoft extreme
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 19:31:15 GMT -5
Post by sniper on Oct 29, 2007 19:31:15 GMT -5
What about the cyberguns tomson , or do you know of a place were I can buy a kar 98k for under $200?
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 19:34:39 GMT -5
Post by sniper on Oct 29, 2007 19:34:39 GMT -5
I know that the m712 shoots over 400fps how dose the mp 40 compare ?
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 19:36:26 GMT -5
Post by alban on Oct 29, 2007 19:36:26 GMT -5
I own both the carbine verison and the pistol version. The c96 was really only used by the SS in WW2 if I remember correctly. They were not a standard issue, like the K98s. I believe Germany might have used some in the early part of the war, but as the war went on they showed up less and less. I use the carbine as a back up weapon and burrow my MP40 if one of my friends need it. Interesting read on the history of the carbine verison: www.gunsworld.com/mauser/c96_carb_us.html Your best bet is to get an AGM MP40 and a different battery then what comes with it, it sucks. Get this battery: www.airsplat.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=AC-BT-84I1200-S Then get a good charger, I would go to: www.shortyusa.com/ look in accessories and get the charger called, "Universal Smart Charger." For $30 it chargers the battery faster and turns itself off so it doesn't over change the battery which can be bad for it. Okay I think that was long enough, be glad you got good people to help you in airsoft, 'cause I made alot of stupid choices without asking anyone. Hope this helps you out!!!
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 19:46:33 GMT -5
Post by sniper on Oct 29, 2007 19:46:33 GMT -5
thank you for the help , I am thinking about geting the mp40 , but I still like the idea of the full metal and wood carbin , I may buy both but not at the same time . could you tell me if the carbin is realy as good as they say it is? I libe in Ohio so I am still looking for a group . so if I fins an SS group that might be a intresting gun to field . I think I will get the mp 40 .
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 19:55:48 GMT -5
Post by alban on Oct 29, 2007 19:55:48 GMT -5
Well you don't have to be in a unit to play at games, but you know if you got the time, the money, and the maturity you could start your own unit if you really want to. What impression are you looking at doing anyway: German, American, Russian, etc? You should pick that, before the gun and the equipment.
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 20:03:08 GMT -5
Post by sniper on Oct 29, 2007 20:03:08 GMT -5
I am looking at doing a german impresion , unfortunatly I do not have the time right now to start a group although I amtrying to convince several friends that they should get ether an pm40 or a tomson , and I was going to take it from there , I have hopes of geting a least 10 , 15 and 16 year olds into the hobby . I have been in the lower end of the hobby for abot three years . could you tell me if there are ever any games held in ohio ?
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 20:15:44 GMT -5
Post by KRaddatz on Oct 29, 2007 20:15:44 GMT -5
I am looking at doing a german impresion , unfortunatly I do not have the time right now to start a group although I amtrying to convince several friends that they should get ether an pm40 or a tomson , and I was going to take it from there , I have hopes of geting a least 10 , 15 and 16 year olds into the hobby . I have been in the lower end of the hobby for abot three years . could you tell me if there are ever any games held in ohio ? Well IMO i would do some more researching before you get into this, its a lot of money and if your trying to get 10 year olds into this i don't think it is that good of an idea, they could start saving up researching a bunch and getting to know people but a lot of their uniform stuff they would not fit unless tailored or original. i would wait until you are 16. PS, what is a pm40 and tomson if your doing german i dont suggest getting a Thompson now that was off topic ;D
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 20:17:49 GMT -5
Post by migmadmavis on Oct 29, 2007 20:17:49 GMT -5
The Chinese also used these, or at least they copied them during WWII I believe
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 20:19:25 GMT -5
Post by sniper on Oct 29, 2007 20:19:25 GMT -5
sorry I need to clarify that I ment 10 kids that are about 16 years old if not older
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 20:25:00 GMT -5
Post by sniper on Oct 29, 2007 20:25:00 GMT -5
how many people have the carbin ?
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 20:28:30 GMT -5
Post by alban on Oct 29, 2007 20:28:30 GMT -5
Well I am guessing your 14 or so, correct? The only problem with starting young is, well you grow lol. I remember I started middle school I was only 4'6, went I got done I was 5'5. My waist stayed the same, but my legs got very long. I think 10 is too young, they can do airsoft, but in turns into a question of maturity. I know a 13 year old who is more mature then some 18 I know. Get friends interested, that way when you go to events you don't have to be the old ball, and if someone doesn't look like they know anyone, you and your friends should talk with them, new friend could be right around the corner. Well there are alot of games in Ohio, I think you should head over to this site, and get on this forum as well and talk with people. www.airsoftohio.com/ Events are always funnier-I know it's not a real word-when you have a friend(s) with you. German is not a cheap impression as others, so just as a heads up. I thank God that mien only cost under $350 and that's not with the MP40, the extra mags, and new battery.
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 20:29:34 GMT -5
Post by Guinness on Oct 29, 2007 20:29:34 GMT -5
I own both the carbine verison and the pistol version. The c96 was really only used by the SS in WW2 if I remember correctly. They were not a standard issue, like the K98s. I believe Germany might have used some in the early part of the war, but as the war went on they showed up less and less. I use the carbine as a back up weapon and burrow my MP40 if one of my friends need it. Interesting read on the history of the carbine verison: www.gunsworld.com/mauser/c96_carb_us.html Here is the thing about this issue- You need to be very specific when discussing it- The "C96" refers to the single shot semi-auto operated Pistol more commonly referred to as the "Broomhandle" due to the obvious resemblance of the pistol grip to a ... broomhandle. I don't want to digress into a whole history lesson here, but the weapon was not actually designed by Mauser, but the Feederle brothers, who worked for Paul Mauser. The German army ordered somewhere around 150,000 C96 pistol during WWI, but not one single "Carbine" In 1932 Mauser Co. made the M712 'Schnellfeuer' (Rapid Fire) and made every attempt to sell them to the Hitlers War Ministry, however by then the P08 Parabellum Luger was preferred by officers. Still, some 7,800 were reportedly purchased by the Luftwaffe. Not enough to represent a 'issued' item. So, to wrap up- WWI was the only 'official' use of the Broomhandle Mauser by the German Army, although it is true that photos exist that show a WWII German soldier using one, remember that Germans were the masters of the 'staged' photo- maybe those were some of the Luftwaffe Broomhandles, we may never know for sure. -Sadly some genius Officer at the end of the war upon occupying the Oberndorf factory ordered the desturction of all Mauser records, so it is very difficult to know with any real certainty what any one serial numbered gun was built for or sold to- I have read it was a French Officer, I have read it was an American- who knows, either way it was sad and wasteful mistake. -Again, no long barrel, integrated wood stock 'carbines' were ever commissioned, ordered or used my German armed forces. -Interestingly enough, all Airsoft models of the 'Broomy' are the M712 Schnelfeuer.
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 20:33:43 GMT -5
Post by sniper on Oct 29, 2007 20:33:43 GMT -5
No ,I am 15 and I will be 16 as of December 4th.I have been intrested in this for several years but the guns were always out of my price range . but now I have the ability to do a little bit more in the way of guns .
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 20:36:46 GMT -5
Post by sniper on Oct 29, 2007 20:36:46 GMT -5
I am expecting the price tag attached to the german gear , and I still have all winter to buy it .
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 20:40:23 GMT -5
Post by sniper on Oct 29, 2007 20:40:23 GMT -5
ok I have alredy done some reserch on this gun but I did not know that the german army did not use the m712 during ww2.
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 20:41:21 GMT -5
Post by alban on Oct 29, 2007 20:41:21 GMT -5
Guinness your knowledge of history I, and I think along with sniper is very helpful. I hope I know as much one day as well. Like I said though he should go with the MP40, I use the carbine as a back up weapon, or when I feel like just picking people off from a far...oh the screams are so nice. I would rather see someone with the carbine then a more modern gun, like a M16 or G36 at a WW2 event. I am saving up for one of ersatzjack K98, until then my carbine is the long distance gun, my MP40 is my mid range weapon, and my broomhandle pistol as my CQB weapon. Thanks again for explaining the history of the firearm.
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 20:50:03 GMT -5
Post by alban on Oct 29, 2007 20:50:03 GMT -5
No ,I am 15 and I will be 16 as of December 4th.I have been intrested in this for several years but the guns were always out of my price range . but now I have the ability to do a little bit more in the way of guns . Sorry I hope it didn't seem like I was talking down to you. Here is an idea, ask for an AGM MP40 for your birthday, and explain that you want one because you wish to do airsoft reenactining. What branch of the German military would you be: SS, Heer, Fallschirmjager, etc? When you get enough money together, pm Capt. Zak about you wishing to do an impression. But one step at a time.
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 21:09:02 GMT -5
Post by sniper on Oct 29, 2007 21:09:02 GMT -5
that sonds like a good idea , I like your set up alban , I was originaly thinking about using this against a bunch of friends , I used to be in the sniper end airsoft until my gun broke . and because I dont have the money to by the kar 98 the carbin was as close as I could get , I think I will get the MP40 for my birthday.
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 21:19:48 GMT -5
Post by alban on Oct 29, 2007 21:19:48 GMT -5
Ya again I use the carbine as back up, back up weapon and for shooting things with in my backyard and woods, no animals of course. Your very welcome by the way, hope you will get to some games in '08 and maybe we will fight together soemtime, who knows.
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 21:25:20 GMT -5
Post by alban on Oct 29, 2007 21:25:20 GMT -5
Also it carbine with .2 and red gas...I can't even tell you how amazing that is.
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 21:29:00 GMT -5
Post by sniper on Oct 29, 2007 21:29:00 GMT -5
that would be great ! I would realy love to retern to ther role of sniper for ww2 airsoft . do you know of any guns that I could use for this that are under $250 ? I am going to get the mP40 then maby another sniper rifle . what is the fps rating on the MP40 I have heard some outstanding things, which ,I have a hard time beliving.
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 21:30:04 GMT -5
Post by sniper on Oct 29, 2007 21:30:04 GMT -5
now your are giving me a good reson to by the carbine.
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 21:37:44 GMT -5
Post by sniper on Oct 29, 2007 21:37:44 GMT -5
thank you for all of your help .
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 21:39:08 GMT -5
Post by alban on Oct 29, 2007 21:39:08 GMT -5
Okay, the point is we are trying to move you anyway from the carbine lol. I believe that very soon the German sniper will be easy to do, wait and watch for up and coming posts in the future...that is all I am going to say.
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 21:51:14 GMT -5
Post by sniper on Oct 29, 2007 21:51:14 GMT -5
I am a little disapointed with the fps reading of 280 is there any way to upgrade this . I have heard that there is also a defective version of this gun can you help me?
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HFC C96
Oct 29, 2007 22:01:20 GMT -5
Post by sniper on Oct 29, 2007 22:01:20 GMT -5
how much of the MP40 is plastic , and how much of it is metal ?
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