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Post by sniper on Apr 23, 2008 8:35:59 GMT -5
I am seting up a German team and I am tthinking about telling my rifle men to get the Kar 98 , would anyone use this in a scirmish against m14s ,and a thomson or2 ? how much dose it cost to send $82 one to the US from Boomarms.
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Post by CharleyNovember on Apr 23, 2008 8:55:49 GMT -5
Get a couple MP40's in your mix and I wouldn't order anything from boomarms.com. I have had a horrible experience with them.
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Post by sniper on Apr 23, 2008 10:46:52 GMT -5
I have an MP 40 and I will be a sargent , the rest are subordanats , due to the fact that therea are only 10 of us I will make a MG42 or a 34, where would you sugest that I get it from , and I would like to find them cheap.
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Post by Russian on Apr 23, 2008 13:37:01 GMT -5
Historically? One MP40 per squad. After all, we do want to make this as historically accurate as possible.
If you want to cut your corners, so to speak, and get a few other full autos in the mix, then you can do so.
An MG42 is a necesity, as the riflemen were to funnel the enemy forces into it's line of fire. Get k98's for all the guys not assigned to the MG.
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Post by sniper on Apr 23, 2008 13:50:46 GMT -5
that was the idea , I am going to make some cheap mg42 's , and American 30cals using the cushman kits and a cheap puls R70 , I was woundering if this gun will reliable in a skimish in its unmodified form , I don't think the shell ejectiing is a problem , if it was I would just have them carry an open bag in the hand under the ejection port that way they dont have to worry about picking up the shells.
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Post by sniper on Apr 24, 2008 21:37:27 GMT -5
where is the best place to by these from that is reasonably cheep?
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Post by harvey425 on Apr 25, 2008 20:30:55 GMT -5
Hi; Would it ruin the authentic look of the KAR 98, by filling the rear sight characters with white paint, or crayon ? They are very hard to see the way they are.
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Post by YankeeDiv26 on Apr 25, 2008 20:40:16 GMT -5
I think a good idea may be doing 3-dot "night sights" like you see on more modern weapon. Put a white dot in paint on both sides of the knotch (rear sight), and a white dot on the front sight. It makes things much easier to see if you are having trouble sighting your rifle. Authentic? no. Noticeable? not very. Acceptable? I think so. No crayons...Crayola 12 packs weren't issued to German soldiers. <YD>
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Post by joered on Apr 28, 2008 13:38:38 GMT -5
got a dboy98 front sight got real loose any suggestions how to repair JR
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Post by 2nd Bat on Apr 28, 2008 18:09:33 GMT -5
So much for this being a gun review section.
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Post by bluecrabofpain on May 4, 2008 19:45:59 GMT -5
(yay!) time to contribute even more (less)! I am seriously considering buying this airsoft gun, but I have to choose. I have 4 options, the Marushin Nambu type-14, the WE Luger, This thing, or the real-wood CM035 (aks-74u). I really wouldn't skirmish with this thing, but I may use it once or twice as a sniper rifle.
THIS will be the question that decides everything: How is the actual accuracy of this gun? (aka if I put a scope on this thing, would I just be wasting my time and money?). If this gun isn't accurate enough to snipe with, then Ill get the aks, or maybe the luger/nambu (I'm still iffy about gas and even iffier about 8mm). I guess I should get used to it though; there are no springer arisakas. I've heard some pretty nasty things about this thing's accuracy, but also some good things.
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Post by sniper on May 6, 2008 17:00:55 GMT -5
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Post by bluecrabofpain on May 6, 2008 17:35:28 GMT -5
Oh, yes they are. and wouldn't ya know it? there's a separate wooden stock right below it.
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Post by mauser1898k on May 27, 2008 5:46:48 GMT -5
Anyone knows, that the boyi kar98k fits in a real WWII kar98k wood stock?
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Post by Lev on May 27, 2008 7:48:42 GMT -5
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, but I think the Dboys K98s are pieces of junk unless you convert them to a springer. They are poorly finished, the materials are junk, and the cartridges make them far from ideal for skirmishing. Some don't agree with my line of thinking on this, but many do.
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Post by TommyGunner on May 27, 2008 10:29:26 GMT -5
I have to strongly dissagree with that statement. I think that saying this rifle is junk is wrong.
While I do agree that the shells add yet another restriction of the operation of a bolt rifle and hinder effective skirmish play I have seen many with the rifle operate as well as someone who has a standard springer.
They also make very good cheap display rifles for those who can not afford a reall Kar98 or simply are not allowed to own a reall one.
Not to mention the conversion to making them non shell ejecting and continuos feed is no problem at all and requires not extra materials or heavy conversion fo the rifle (with the exception of copper tubing and a spring)
We (as in the german airsofters who came) had two of these rifles at the Batavia blank event and the reenactors loved them, thought they were great and considered buying some themselfs.
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Post by Lev on May 27, 2008 11:02:50 GMT -5
To each his own, Tommy. We all want a cheap K98 so badly, I'm just not sure the Dboy rifle is the solution we were all hoping for
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Post by TommyGunner on May 27, 2008 11:41:59 GMT -5
Yeah, it deffinatly is not the solution we need, quite far from it but it does have potential that I hope to have unlocked before the summer is over with this new conversion I am attempting.
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Post by jimseery on May 27, 2008 18:36:24 GMT -5
I tend to agree with Tommy Gunner. I feel I have solved the shell problem. Build your own, it's not that hard, but I have not solved the inconsistant accuracy problem. Has anyone succeded in replacing the short inner barrel . I'm not willing to give up on this rifle until that variable is eliminated.
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Post by Sgt_Tom on May 27, 2008 21:06:49 GMT -5
If I get a German Impression I will definitely get the DBoyi Kar98 and convert it to a non shell ejecting. I am guessing it would cost around 220$. Whats the best Chinese VSR for the conversion?
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Post by jcs on Jun 9, 2008 21:14:50 GMT -5
Hi everyone, How do i remove the upper handguard from the dboys kar 98K?
is it the same as the real thing by pressing the band spring? but the band spring in the airsoft version is made of plastic, i'm afraid i might broke it, thanks
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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on Jun 30, 2008 13:42:37 GMT -5
TommyGunner,
Have you removed the air restriction bar from you D-boy's bolt? Look down the air nozzle of the bold, you will see a metal pin. Remove it. It helps with the accuracy problem and the FPS issue as well.
Oh, I wanted to add that once you remove the pin. You need to back fill the two holes it leaves as air will excape from them. Use JB weld or something. Then sand to smooth out!
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jun 30, 2008 17:56:22 GMT -5
Battlesim has been hard to get ahold of lately because of their move but they have a marvelous replacement inner barrel package that improves the power and accuracy considerably. It runs around $100.00 As I have said before any airsoft gun no matter how upgraded is a joke to put a scope on unless you use it for spotting or looks. Functionally airsoft guns have neither the range or accuracy to justify them.
Great tip Gefreiter but I suspect some pictures and perhaps a tutorial would be most helpful. I agree that these guns can be used as functional weapons at a WW2 airsoft event where every one has limited ammo and the number of fully automatic guns is authentically limited. You will need lots of spare shells and learn to work well with your MGs.
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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on Jul 1, 2008 7:30:32 GMT -5
Great tip Gefreiter but I suspect some pictures and perhaps a tutorial would be most helpful. I agree that these guns can be used as functional weapons at a WW2 airsoft event where every one has limited ammo and the number of fully automatic guns is authentically limited. You will need lots of spare shells and learn to work well with your MGs. Yep, I purchased 60 extra shells for a total of 65. They are annoying to load… but not so bad once you have stripper clips. As far as a tutorial… I suppose I can do one. But really, all you are doing is removing a pin from the bolt. No disassembly required. Just pull you bolt out normally. At the end with the air nozzle there is a pin. It appears as though it would have a purpose like holding something together. This is just appearance. All this pin does is restrict air flow. Remove the pin and back fill the holes left behind on either side of the bolt. WHALLA!!! More air flow!!! And a slightly better shot!
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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on Jul 8, 2008 9:10:55 GMT -5
Alright!!!! I’m sorry this took so darn long to get… but… I’ve Choreographed the upgraded version of the D-boys bolt.
Results: with .30 gram BB’s.
382 FPS 389 FPS 372 FPS Average: 381 FPS with .30 gram BB’s
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Post by nixon on Jul 22, 2008 19:05:46 GMT -5
Bought my dboy's k98 in Dublin - spent the whole day travelling - was out of the car for ten mins to pick it up then back on the road. Spent all of today, from 9am to around half ten firing it and even stripped it down as best i could to try and understand the internals. I agree that there is an accuracy problem in that it is very inconsistent. Had a small skirmish with a couple of my neighbors - wouldn't recommend it, it keeps jamming and the shells get damaged and unusable very quickly if you don't catch them before they hit a hard surface. The shells also get jammed up inside the firing mechanism as well as the fact that the safety catch comes loose and then damages the surrounding wood when you work the bolt. DON'T use paintball bb's in it, they seem to clog up the barrel badly. If anyone could offer some help to a newbie on how to upgrade it (removing that pin thing sounds good but i've no idea where to start without a picture to go by) i'd be very grateful.
Nixon
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jul 23, 2008 18:33:45 GMT -5
I agree a picture would be enormously helpful as I can't quite visualize what you're describing. Guys this is an inexpensive gun. If you were expecting Tanaka like performance I suspect you'll just have to spend more, although Gefrieters figures are very very encouraging if consistenly acheivable with so little effort.
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Post by nixon on Jul 24, 2008 20:19:42 GMT -5
OK it turned out to be really easy to do. First thing is to get the gun outside on a good day, open the breech and look down the barrel - you can see just inside the little nozzle at the top of the bolt there is a tube passing across the inside of the hole. If you remove the bolt you can see that the tube passes through the bolt completely. It can be pushed out by anything that is small enough. You should cover up the holes again because if you dont you can't fire the bb's out of the shells. what i did was hacksaw the metal tube you just removed and cut two small sections out of it and then placed one in each of the holes that were left after removing the tube. noticed a fairly considerable increase in accuracy. Next step is fixing the barrel - which has a smaller and larger section which is the next obstacle, you can see the difference when you look down the barrel from the top. Hope this helps. If photo's are needed i can post some up after the weekend after i've moved into my new house.
Nixon
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Post by CroppyBoy on Jul 31, 2008 16:25:17 GMT -5
I have one of these DBOYS K98's. I'm not a skirmishers, just collect airsoft for the 'collectable' side of it, ie being able to get realistic historic guns that I couldnt otherwise afford, or would be very difficult and expensive to get as de-acs (I live in Ireland). Anyway, as maybe mentioned already, as regards quality and finish etc, maybe the DBoys isnt the best, but its cheap and gives you a good base to work with, for instance, check out my 'aged' K98 at the link below: www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=56674818&postcount=266I have a WE Luger, HFC Box Cannon, WE M1911A1 and an AGM MP40, all of which I've aged and by far the quickest and easiest to age was the DBOYS and the result was far better. I was so happy with it in fact and enjoyed do it so much that I've ordered another '98 which I will convert into a Gewehr 98. Striaght out of the box she's 'ok' and just ok, the barrel sucks, accuracy is pitiful, its very hard to fit the five rounds into the internal mag (my follower spring broke the first time I tried to fit the five rounds in). The bullets are pretty soft, BUT, if you treat them gently they will be fine, dont be yanking back the bolt as hard as you can to get them flying, just pull it back gently and remove the shell yourself, that way the extractor wont chew off the rim and the shell wont fall on hard ground and be damaged. Happy shootin'
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Post by reddevils on Aug 24, 2008 21:38:40 GMT -5
Thank you for your review! I was contemplating buying one and you seem to have answered may of my concerns and the photos help alot. Even if I don't use it for the battle field, I can still use it for my movies!
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