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Post by Rock of the Marne on Aug 5, 2007 10:19:02 GMT -5
did u guys know that Damien Lewis was Scottish
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Post by valtteri on Aug 5, 2007 10:57:08 GMT -5
Dream catcher.. Was that the one with the terrible anal monsters?
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Post by magic8ball on Aug 5, 2007 12:18:29 GMT -5
he's definitely British, but the funny thing was, when he was being interviewed for the previews for his new NBC show, he was using an American accent. I guess he was just getting into his character
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Post by YankeeDiv26 on Aug 5, 2007 15:09:27 GMT -5
hmmm, didnt ron livingston and the guy who played bull have a short lived cop/negotiator type show too?
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Post by theriseandfall on Aug 8, 2007 1:59:31 GMT -5
don't think the guy who played randleman was in the negotiator show, but I was watching Enter the Dragon: the Bruce Lee Story and saw him in it for a while!!
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Post by 5thrangerinfantry on Aug 8, 2007 8:22:31 GMT -5
hmmm, didnt ron livingston and the guy who played bull have a short lived cop/negotiator type show too? the show was called 'Boomtown' it was Donnie Wahlberg (Lipton) and Neal McDonough (Compton)
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Post by wade on Aug 8, 2007 9:22:37 GMT -5
Yeah, Lipton's on "The Killpoint" now, and Luz (spl?) played a detective on "Transformers".
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Post by magic8ball on Aug 8, 2007 13:32:45 GMT -5
those are all the American actors, it's easier for them to be in a US TV show since they're all based here. I'm thinking like many British actors like Hugh Laurie and that guy from "Still Standing" whov'e been asked to do TV shows here in America, they've had to re-locate their whole life from the UK to Hollywood.
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Post by sandman on Aug 10, 2007 21:52:56 GMT -5
Ah, Band of Brothers. Now we're talkin war. Love the series. But no,not all the actors were American. The episode I really liked was Carentan or Breaking Point. Carentan, because of them being at Hill30 and how Blithe told Lt. Speares what he did on D-Day. And Breaking Point, because of Donnie Whalberg (Lipton 1st Sgt) being the narrator and main character of the precise episode. So as you can tell I have infact seen Band of Brothers.
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Post by waldo on Aug 10, 2007 23:59:09 GMT -5
hmmm, didnt ron livingston and the guy who played bull have a short lived cop/negotiator type show too? the show was called 'Boomtown' it was Donnie Wahlberg (Lipton) and Neal McDonough (Compton) Actually the show where Livingston and Bull are together is Standoff, but Wahlberg, McDonnough, Rick Gomez (Luz) and Frank John Hughes (Guarnere) were all on a show called Boomtown together. I watched that short-lived police drama just because of BOB. It was good to see all of them on a show again, and made me think that they helped each other get the job. ;D Nick
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Post by Doom on Aug 13, 2007 21:55:44 GMT -5
I just watched Band Of Brothers (episode 5?) disc #3 again and was amazed at how stupid they made the Germans look during the daytime assault sequence. The episode with the MG42 gun crew on the hill and the Captain shoots the young SS kid....It's the scene where the Americans surprise the Germans in that open field and for some reason the Germans all run around like ducks, don't take cover and barely return fire. Then a SECOND company of SS comes over the hill, doesn't engage the Americans, runs down into the same field and gets mowed down as well...WTF? If that's based on real SS tactics, it's amazing Germany even made it into Poland.....
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Post by spitfire740 on Aug 13, 2007 23:36:20 GMT -5
I noticed that too, and also Winters basically hip-shot several germans while he was standing on that hill. I'm guessing that scene was mostly hollywood.
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Post by 2ndranger on Aug 13, 2007 23:50:59 GMT -5
Yea...dont worry about that...running head first into fire was a russian and Japanese tactic...the germans looked both ways before crossing the battlefield... Franz
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Post by Doom on Aug 13, 2007 23:59:43 GMT -5
I noticed that too, and also Winters basically hip-shot several germans while he was standing on that hill Exactly. He never looked down his sights and dropped several Germans in that scene.....Standing. And they didn't shoot back.
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Post by wade on Aug 14, 2007 0:19:53 GMT -5
Well, one American soldier, standing in open road, hip-firing every shot, against one company of elite crack SS troopers.... You have to admit, it does carry the element of surprise!
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Post by 5thrangerinfantry on Aug 14, 2007 9:11:13 GMT -5
READ THE BOOK.
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Post by Doom on Aug 14, 2007 15:43:35 GMT -5
If the book backs up that scene as it was played out in the show, then I would question the memory of the vets recounting the story. Confusion for a moment is one thing, but an entire SS company being dropped without any resistance is a bit hard to swallow.
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Post by 5thrangerinfantry on Aug 15, 2007 7:50:29 GMT -5
From what I remember, it was for the most part, right on.
I also remember that Webster's book said the same as Ambrose's BoB....
You also need to remember that at this point in the war, the SS was starting to get new recruits that were below the previously high standards.....
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Post by odinfish on Aug 15, 2007 8:49:25 GMT -5
Let us not forget about the fog of war and how not everything can be properly recalled. What seems to happen is not always as it appears especially during events as stressful as those. If I remember correctly there are a lot of inaccuracies in BoB...now it's been a while since I've watched the DVDs but I recall a clear incompatibility between what Mr. Winters described during his interview and the show during the German surrender and the offering of a certain Luger.
Mike
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Post by wade on Aug 15, 2007 9:00:34 GMT -5
Let us not forget about the fog of war and how not everything can be properly recalled. What seems to happen is not always as it appears especially during events as stressful as those. If I remember correctly there are a lot of inaccuracies in BoB...now it's been a while since I've watched the DVDs but I recall a clear incompatibility between what Mr. Winters described during his interview and the show during the German surrender and the offering of a certain Luger. Mike From what I remember, the series were pretty accurate up until Bastogne, and then Hollywood took it from there.
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Post by waldo on Aug 16, 2007 19:28:17 GMT -5
Alot of the things that were in the book do not match in the show. The writers took "creative license" and rewrote scenes, changed the people who were there, and generally made the show the way they wanted to. Winters reportedly made comments about how inaccurate some of the scenes were, and they told him they're doing it there way. Nick
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Post by magic8ball on Sept 23, 2007 21:01:21 GMT -5
Damien Lewis' TV show "Life" premieres on NBC this week. It might take a few episodes for me to stop seeing him as Dick Winters, maybe more.
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Post by magic8ball on Oct 3, 2007 21:42:16 GMT -5
If you watched last week's episode of "Life" you would have seen a "Band of Brothers" mini-reunion between Dick Winters and Bull Randleman
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Post by binarypunisher on Oct 3, 2007 21:48:38 GMT -5
In my military science class at Seattle University (2nd Batts alma mater!) we watch Band of Brothers.
Apparently Buck Compton comes in every year to talk to the class, I am really looking forward to it!
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Post by Adler69 on Oct 3, 2007 22:08:01 GMT -5
I Met Buck Compton last year , didn't ask him anything about BoB figured everyone does, so i just asked him about the Sirhan Sirhan trial instead.
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Post by Adler69 on Oct 3, 2007 22:11:08 GMT -5
Oh and i forgot , he wasn't taken out of the battle of the bulge from combat fatigue like the show tells you , he suffered from Trench Foot that's why he was evacuated.
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Post by Guinness on Oct 3, 2007 23:30:23 GMT -5
Following up on some older posts here- -Ron Livingston did the now cancelled series "Standoff" -Damien Lewis is most definitely British, Born: 11 February 1971, St. John's Wood, London, England, UK -The cast of BoB was about half and half Brit and Yank- www.imdb.com/title/tt0185906/fullcredits Its interesting to see who is Brit that you would have never thought- obviously Capt. Winters, but also Sgt Martin, Cpl Liebgott, Doc Roe, Babe Heffron, Lt Walsh, and get this- Pvt Blythe- you know that one that was sleeping in his foxhole then ended up getting shot in the neck? God I though he was from Kentucky with that accent!
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Post by p51 on Oct 3, 2007 23:46:39 GMT -5
I Met Buck Compton last year , didn't ask him anything about BoB figured everyone does, so i just asked him about the Sirhan Sirhan trial instead. Buck's a great guy. The last time I met him, he asked to sit down while we talked, I patted him on the shoulder and said, "Thanks, Uncle Sam's service left me with bad shins, I'm glad you asked to sit down first!" He was very talkative after he stopped laughing! Back in 2004, I was invited to set up a display at the Pierce College (WA) WW2 week lectures. I wrote the folliwng on another message board the following day: I didn't bring my MB as others would be there, focusing instead on my WW2 airborne equipment display. I spoke with lots of WW2 vets, including a great old fellow who survived the Battan death march, escaped, and wound up jumping into Holandia with the 11th Airborne. But the coolest of all was talking with Don Malarkey, of E/506th. I spoke with him for almost an hour, and spoke with his Son-in-Law Jim. Both were great guys and answered all kinds of questions that never got into the books... The college also fed us and helped bring our stuff in from our POVs when we arrived. What a great day! We talked a long time about the series and how he really felt about it (I talked at length with his son-in-law about it too and the general consensus was that they really liked it and it was well done). The actor who played Malarkey (Scott Grimes) was always around the cameras clicked, but didn't really bond with Don like some of the other actors did. They said that the actors playing Compton, Randleman and Guarnere really bonded with the real guys and they all still stay in touch. The Malarkey family pretty much feels that Grimes felt this was just a stepping stone for him, but have no hard feelings about it. Everyone in his family did think that Grimes didn't look nearly as good as Don did back then, though. Both Don and his wife were quite a striking couple back then from the photos they had. His wife was quite striking even now for her age. They also pointed out that Don was quite taller than Grimes, too! Don's daughter got to hug Tom Hanks at one of the gatherings for the series, which amused Jim quite a bit. Both Don and Jim were very nice, friendly, and candid about everything. They were really good people. I didn't talk to Don's daughter at all and only said hello to his wife, as they were hanging back the whole time. I asked Jim what the family thinks of Don being a commodity to some people. He was surprised I asked the question, as he said it did bother them some but none of them ever thought anyone else would think of it. I told him I'd met lots of famous vets over the years, but abhor the people who collect stuff just to sell and that I wasn't out to get a "complete set" of signatures on a book just to sell it. Jim said people like me (pointing to my display) are rarely the type who'd do that anyway. I said I wasn't too sure about that. Jim said that Don is cool with signing books now and undertands that we all look up to him and his buddies. Don did joke around with some folks that he charged five bucks a signature, but he would waive that if you were either former or active military. I think he was kidding, but to be honest, I'm not 100 percent certain of that... We talked about the phenomenon that WW2 is such a big deal now, more than ever before. He said he liked that we do this hobby (I was wearing my 82nd AB M-42 suit, but he didn’t have anything bad to say about the 82nd), but laughed about seeing the large guys and the ones with the large moustaches at other events. I said that got on my nerves as well. I'd told him about being at the Eisenhower Farm years ago, and how Dick Winters liked to razz the large or Flaggrantly Wrong "paratroopers." Don laughed, and said, "Yeah, I can see Dick doing that." I had a large three-table layout of paratrooper gear, and he said I had done it all right. Who could ask for a better criticism? I didn't bother ask him about specific widgets he'd had or what pattern jock strap he was wearing in Holland, as those details have been pretty well documented elsewhere. We didn't discuss the equipment at all, but his experiences instead, as we tend to get so hung up on the junk and not the guys themselves sometimes. He asked if I'd served, and when I told him I had, he seemed to open a little more to me at that point. He seemed just a little more friendly to anyone who said they'd served or was serving currently. I guess it's the whole Army brotherhood thing. I asked how he was dealing with fame when before he was just a face in the crowd, and he didn't quite know how to put it into words. He liked it, but somehow it seemed to bug him just a little. He didn't talk much about it. Maybe he was thinking of the heroes he knew who never came back? I'm just guessing at that part. I asked Don about meeting the German prisoner in Normandy, as it isn't mentioned in the book. He said it didn't really happen like in the series, and that he was pretty smart-aleky to the German. Turns out, they worked ACROSS THE STREET from each other before the war, in Portland in heavy machine works. He thought that the producers figured nobody would believe that so they changed it. After a while of talking with the German, he snidely said, "Well, I guess you backed the wrong team, huh?" The German just said, "Yeah, I guess I did," and that was that. Don didn't really pal around while talking to him like in the show. The German was pretty ticked off he'd been captured, it seemed, and Don didn't think the German was lamenting the side he'd chose as much as being nabbed by the enemy. He never got the guy's name and never heard from or about him again. He was specific that Spears certainly didn't shoot him, though. He said that incident happened at Carentan. He also talked of all the reunion visits to Europe and how the media follows them all around. When in Austria, a German camera crew tried to find the spot a snapshot of him had been taken, spent all day but never could find it. He thought that was pretty funny, actually. Don lives in Salem now (it was a decent drive from there to the Tacoma area), but gets together with Buck Compton often, as Buck live north of Seattle. Jim arranged for Buck and Don to throw out the first pitch at a Seattle Mariner's game right before the release of BoB on DVD. When they were announced, the crowd got to their feet and they had a standing ovation. Jim said that Don was really surprised by that. Buck, a former jock, made a very poor pitch that Don gave him a lot of ribbing about later on. The whole group has been very close since the war, closer than most units I have heard of. Don still shakes his head at the fact that Sobel actually showed up at the first reunion in 1947. Bill Guarnere told him that he wasn't welcome there, but I doubt it was politely put as Don said it. After over 60 years, they still hate the man. Sobel's children have come to some reunions, and they aren't shunned. I guess they think it's not the kid's fault that their Dad was a jerk. Jim says he's heard many of the vets wonder why Sobel's death wasn't explained at the end of the series, as everyone else's was. Don and Jim also talked about Dick Winters' health. Dick has Parkinson's disease, and gets around in a walker or wheelchair. They're all getting older now, but Don really seemed to be bothered at Dick's condition. Don was hard of hearing but otherwise seemed to get along quite well. I hope I'm in that good a shape (and as alert as he is) when I'm his age. The funny thing was that Don was at the door of the room where he was giving his talk, talking with Jim and me about Dick Winters, but none of us knew he was being introduced at that moment. Finally we heard his intro being repeated with a little more urgency, and an embarrassed Don went into the room to a round of applause. Don had thought someone was coming to get him. Thank goodness Don and Jim were talking at the time, I'd have felt bad about causing him to miss his cue! I'd met Don once before, two years ago, and got him and Buck Compton to sign my book. Oh, and I have the photo to prove it. Someone had just said something funny about Don still looking like a paratrooper when this was snapped:
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Post by Guinness on Oct 4, 2007 0:04:08 GMT -5
wow great write up Lee! Thanks for the bit about the Malarky/German thing- That has always bothered me about the series and I had looked and looked for more information on it but had no luck- I would love to have an opportunity to meet and talk to more vets, but there isn't much going on here in Colorado that I have found, obviously we have plenty of veterans, but I can't find any info on reunions or that in the area I suppose I could always just pop into a random VFW though huh -G
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Post by magic8ball on Oct 4, 2007 10:11:30 GMT -5
You never know who's really British on TV nowadays. The new Bionic Woman is English, so is the dad on "Still Standing", and so is Apollo from "Battlestar Galactica', and the guy on that new show on NBC called "Journeyman" is Scottish. Whatever happened to hiring good old american actors?? Following up on some older posts here- -Ron Livingston did the now cancelled series "Standoff" -Damien Lewis is most definitely British, Born: 11 February 1971, St. John's Wood, London, England, UK -The cast of BoB was about half and half Brit and Yank- www.imdb.com/title/tt0185906/fullcredits Its interesting to see who is Brit that you would have never thought- obviously Capt. Winters, but also Sgt Martin, Cpl Liebgott, Doc Roe, Babe Heffron, Lt Walsh, and get this- Pvt Blythe- you know that one that was sleeping in his foxhole then ended up getting shot in the neck? God I though he was from Kentucky with that accent!
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