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Post by 2nd Bat on Dec 16, 2005 4:26:32 GMT -5
A local player broke the slide that draws the bolt back on his 8mm Marushin carbine. Anyone have any thoughts about how he would go about fixing it? What site could he go to get a replacement part. Any guesses as to how much it'd be? Is he better off just buying a new one and using what would now be two spare magazines?
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Post by Guinness on Dec 16, 2005 6:54:16 GMT -5
If he has the manual then he can id the part number from the schematic blow up- I have bought several parts from WGC club by asking them to get the parts from the Mfg, actually they were Hudson bolts for the Greas Gun, and WGC only charged me like 12 bucks for one and gave me the other free-
I'm thinking Marushin would be easier to deal with as they are a bigger mfg.
Just a thought, if he doesn't have the manual perhaps others here do and could assist identifying the part no.
-G
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Post by schmitty on Dec 16, 2005 11:26:22 GMT -5
Is this the carbine you mentioned you where going to buy? If you get it I will find a way to fix it for you, As long as he still has all the pieces. I'm thinking either weld it or drill the pieces so I can reinforce it with a metal pin, Anyway I'm sure it's fixable.
Schmitty
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Post by Guinness on Dec 16, 2005 12:18:49 GMT -5
a little jb weld goes a long way ;D -G
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Post by 2nd bat on Dec 16, 2005 16:47:52 GMT -5
Schmitty,
It is, and you may have noticed it at the game. It's the same fellow who had the Thompson with no front handguard. He has a couple spare magazines for it with the three mags being worth more then what he's asking for the gun but still I'm reluctant. JB weld won't hold in my opinion as it's obviously a high stress area on the gun. Does that pock metal weld okay? I guess I'd be surprised.
Thanks guys for all the input.
I think I'll go ahead and get it even though like you schmitty I'm not a huge fan of gas guns for skirmishing. Once I buy it I'd love it if you could take a look at it and see if you could do some magic with it.
I guess for the money it'd be worth having as a spare prop gun if nothing else.
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Post by schmitty on Dec 17, 2005 11:07:31 GMT -5
It sounds like a deal. Get it!! You are probably right in assuming it can't be welded but I'm sure I can find a way to fix it (JB weld alone would not be strong enough).
Schmitty
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Post by 2nd bat on Dec 17, 2005 11:36:23 GMT -5
Great! I'll go ahead and get it and figure out how to get it in your hands.
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Post by Guinness on Dec 17, 2005 18:29:19 GMT -5
I wonder if a real steel slide could be adapted?
-G
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Post by schmitty44 on Dec 19, 2005 22:00:49 GMT -5
John: send me an e-mail when you get it. You can always drop it off at the store I work at in Snohomish.
Schmitty
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Post by schmitty on Jan 3, 2006 1:34:25 GMT -5
The Carbine is fixed and ready for action. The back of the slide wasn't just broken it was gone!! including the charging handle and the return spring and rod, and the metal clip that holds the stock to the clamp at the front. I made a new handle from aluminum and attached it to the broken slide with a screw that goes through both. I can't garuntee the handle looks exactly scale because I don't have a carbine anymore so was working from my foggy memmory, Should be pretty close though. The magazines where missing the O-ring on the top (seems to be a common problem for these) I just tested it and it works great!!
Schmitty
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jan 3, 2006 17:41:54 GMT -5
Schmitty,
Thank you for all your efforts especially since it was apparently far more involved then you or I had anticipated. Believe me I'm sure I won't have issues with your efforts at all. When I bought it he told me all the magazines were fine!!!! (They very might well have been when he last used them I suppose.)
Where did you access the replacement "O" rings for the carbine mags? I'm sure there are lots of folks on this board that would love to know. It'd be a good thing to have on hand.
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Post by schmitty on Jan 4, 2006 15:07:26 GMT -5
The O-rings where in a box of assorted O-rings I got from Harbour freight tools but I'm sure you can just get them at a hardware store (take the mag with you). It's a very poor design, the only thing keeping the o-rings in the mags is the tightness of the fit. When you remove the magazine from the gun they often stick to the gun then fall off later. Best thing is to glue them to the mag with a little (very little) silicone glue.
Schmitty
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Post by schmitty on Jan 4, 2006 15:12:00 GMT -5
Oops I double posted But as long as I'm still yakking, One more thing, When he said the magazines all worked fine he may not have known the o-rings where gone. Surprisingly the carbine still fires pretty well without them. The moral is if you own a marushin carbine check to make sure your mags aren't missing the o-ring on top. Schmitty
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jan 4, 2006 23:11:01 GMT -5
Good catch and worth going back and looking at. Guinness I hope the one I sent you was fine. I fired it outta my carbine (indoors) to check it out and it certainly seemed to work fine when shipped. Let me know! I'ncidently it's in one of the Garand pouches in the ten pocket belt! schmitty, I'm going to go to a hardware store with a carbine mag and source some "O" rings and do as you suggest.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jan 12, 2006 13:28:16 GMT -5
Final report on the broken slide M1 Carbine. I dropped it off with Schmitty and he did his magic on the gun. I picked it up yesterday. In addition to the broken slide there were numerous other ails as well. Absent springs and another broken (missing) part. Unhindered, Jason tackled the challenge without hesitation. He fabricated the missing parts and did an amazing job actually creating an improved design that is tighter, stronger and somewhat more functional. He added a thin sheet of shaped aluminum to reinforce and connect the piece also shaped the broken bolt so it looks right from all but the closest inspection. The spring that closes the bolt after cocking is stronger then the original (which was missing) so you no longer have to push it forward so deliberately as is common with the Marushin carbine. He apologized for a tiny screw that shows (only if you really, really, look) but explained that it was essential for disassembly should it ever be neccessary.
In addition he noticed that the magazines were all missing the top O ring and while the gun still fires it looses a great deal of power. The design by the way is such that the O rings easily stick to the gun when removed and can easily be lost. Schmitty advises putting a touch of silicon glue on a tiny bit of the O ring when you replace it so it won't be such an issue. He did so on each of the magazines. This is a good thing for all Marushin carbine owners to do. I got the gun home and immediately fired it and am extremely impressed with it's performance. 8mm rocks!!!! I'm going to refinish the stock which was pretty groddy from the obviously abusive prior owner. I'll add a fake oiler, stock mag pouch and carbine sling and add it to my arsenal. Incidently his "War room" and workshop are such that he could and should charge admission. I could have spent hours in there. We ought to demand he take lots of pictures and present a "Photo tour" of his incredible set up.
Thanks Schmitty you're amazing.
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Post by Guinness on Jan 12, 2006 19:26:24 GMT -5
Schmitty- You heard the man- And he's a Captain! Get to picture taking!!!! Hmmmm maybe if Roman and I can make it up in April, then I could take the photo-tour of the Schmitty Museum of odd and unique weapons! -G
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Post by 2nd Bat on Jan 12, 2006 22:16:23 GMT -5
He also has museum quality RC Tanks, Aircraft (Some quite huge) and assorted wonderfully displayed figurines and model military vehicles. To say nothing of his airsoft gun rack which is praiseworthy enough. You could spend hours there. It's very cool. You really should come up for our Carentan game. It'll be worth your while I promise. We'll establish a firm date and let everyone know.
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Post by schmitty on Jan 13, 2006 12:32:09 GMT -5
John (2nd bat) thanks for your kind words and high praise of my work and "museum". and Guinness if you ever make it up to our lovely damp corner of the country you have a standing invitation.
John: just to clarify something, The Carbine does not have a thin aluminum strap connecting the cocking handle. The cocking handle IS the aluminum piece I made. It makes a 90 degree bend and goes behind the broken slide. The screw passes through a hole in the broken slide and threads into the aluminum piece I made.
Schmitty
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