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Post by sir veilance on Apr 14, 2009 21:04:52 GMT -5
How strange! I got mine from Gunner, when the woodstock ones first hit the market and with .20's it chrono'd in the 425-440 range
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Post by Guinness on Apr 14, 2009 21:45:31 GMT -5
I thought it was pretty odd myself. It is a brand new chrono though, but I also tested my Luger, and some pistols that I know what their numbers are and it was right on so... My DBoyi gas KAR was over 500 using .28 biovals
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Post by kalbs on Apr 15, 2009 1:07:37 GMT -5
Could it be the manufacturer puts weaker springs in Overseas retailers vs. those sold to Asian suppliers to meet local laws? I got mine direct from China as would WGC who are also reporting 400+ fps... total speculation on my part
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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on Apr 15, 2009 7:40:01 GMT -5
I promised a review of my own. Well, my friend got to scrimmage with his gun not too long ago and the gun performed well. However, the magazine winder got jammed and the lid to the bb well broke off. Maybe because of user error. The gun itself performed well though! Very well!
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Post by maus on Apr 25, 2009 19:29:21 GMT -5
My sample has fairly poor performance. The hop up doesn't do anything through its total range of adjustment.
I have a tight bore and a new hop up ready to go in, but need assistance in getting the hop up unit out. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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Post by kalbs on Apr 25, 2009 19:43:56 GMT -5
My sample has fairly poor performance. The hop up doesn't do anything through its total range of adjustment. I have a tight bore and a new hop up ready to go in, but need assistance in getting the hop up unit out. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. 1. To get the hop-up out first disassemble the reciever and remove the gearbox as noted in the reviews. lrrphk.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=airsoftreviews&action=display&thread=225&page=12. Pull off the fore-grip stamped metal grip. 3. Under the fore most receiver screw and in the same hole ( left reciver) is a small allen screw that is not visable . Back this out. 4. You should be able to now pull the outer barrel and gas tube from the receiver by pulling forward. 5. Now that is is out the hop-up along with the barrel should come out backwards. Reverse to reassemble.
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Post by maus on Apr 25, 2009 19:54:31 GMT -5
Perfect instruction Kalbs. It came out without issues.
Thank you very much.
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Post by 2nd Bat on Apr 26, 2009 15:14:48 GMT -5
It's certainly possible they toned them down a bit so as to be compliant and the insure they wouldn't be seized in certain export markets. The UK and other countries have restrictions on FPS and will seize guns that exceed the standard.
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Post by badger on Apr 30, 2009 23:19:24 GMT -5
Got mine for Evike a week ago. Their price was $200, and that was for the wood stock model.
The troubling stock pin came replaced with a G3 styled pin; but the trigger group pin is loose and may need replacing with a similar fix.
The battery does not fit quite deep enough in its well, and getting the wiring in so the stock could be seated was problematic. Drilling a bit deeper might be difficult- I am considering other potential fixes.
Have not had it apart yet. I expect to find plenty of goo and crud that need cleaning out, but I need to get another tube of silicon or lithium grease before I tear into it.
It is a heavy gun- the heaviest AEG I own now. I do not own a chrono, so I'll have to shop around for a cheap one when I have time. However, I did fall prey to temptation and charge the battery and fire a few rounds into a cardboard box....And it definitely shoots harder than my CA sportline M4.
I plan to do a limited weathering job, hunt around for a reduced power spring, and maybe some other upgrades or mods as time allows.
-Badger-
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Post by maus on May 3, 2009 19:50:47 GMT -5
Finally I think I have the kinks worked out if this gun. We had a themed skirmish today, and I used this gun exclusively. I have one of the reaaaally early production models. It has in it a clear polycarbonate hop-up unit and a MP40 (that is how it came!!) muzzle nut. Out of the box it chronoed 430fps, but had horrible range and accuracy. The fix? I replaced the hop up bucking with a TM one, and replace the nub with one made from "O" ring material. I also replaced the inner barrel with a 450mm (AK length) Systema tight bore. They (systema) say they are 6.04mm, but I measured it with both pin gauges and a caliper and it is definitely 6.02mm in diameter on both ends. The max distance it can now shoot is 200ft. Thats more than double the range, and great for suppression. Accuracy is a lot better within 100 - 125ft. I managed to pick up 2 spare high caps from Ehobby Asia. The upper portion of the retention lip needed to be bent further out, as the magazine was loose in the magazine well and could be removed from the gun without depressing the magazine release. I will look into some higher grade batteries, as I went through both stock 1100mah 8.4v today. I will probably stick to 8.4v, simply because the ROF is more authentic. All in all, I had some early buyers remorse when I found the weapon not working as I hoped when I first purchased it. After the upgrades I did and a full day of hard skirmishing with it, I can now say that this gun will probably my G36K as my primary. There should be not doubt about the skirmish ability of these AGM MP-44s. While I'm waiting for my Autumn Oak A pattern camouflage to arrive, I'll probably experiment a bit more with the hop up unit itself, and try various combinations of nubs until I find one that make this gun even better. I hope the AGM MG-42 will be this nice.
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Post by kalbs on May 4, 2009 8:09:35 GMT -5
Did the 450mm fit without cutting it down Maus?
Thanks for sharing. I think I'll finally get around to do the same to mine.
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Post by sir veilance on May 4, 2009 8:35:50 GMT -5
Has anyone converted one of the AGM hi-caps into a mid or low-cap?
I thought I read where someone thought an MP5 internal would fit right in!?!
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2009 8:59:16 GMT -5
Maus, try dropping an H-nub in there as well. Should increase your range and accuracy considerably more, plus they're pretty cheap.
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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on May 4, 2009 10:37:00 GMT -5
I second that. Anyone figure an easy way to convert the magazine to a mid/low capacity? The High cap is well, meh!
Also, any links to where we can pick up extra magazines would be awesome!
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2009 10:48:56 GMT -5
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Post by jimseery on May 4, 2009 18:41:56 GMT -5
I have resisted this urge for months and now all I can say is the "devil made me do it". The easist way to make a hi-cap into a lo-cap is to, wait for the drum roll, put less bb's into it. Now trusting others not to cheat is entirely another issue!
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Post by sir veilance on May 4, 2009 19:05:48 GMT -5
I have resisted this urge for months and now all I can say is the "devil made me do it". The easist way to make a hi-cap into a lo-cap is to, wait for the drum roll, put less bb's into it. Now trusting others not to cheat is entirely another issue! That's no good for me I hate winding and I don't like trying to sneak up on somebody with what sounds like a baby rattle ;D
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Post by maus on May 6, 2009 5:33:06 GMT -5
Did the 450mm fit without cutting it down Maus? Thanks for sharing. I think I'll finally get around to do the same to mine. I did not have to cut the barrel down. When laid side by side with the stock barrel, it is only 1/4" longer in length. I will try an "H" nub as a replacement when I run my experiments. I have seen them listed on various retailers sites. I am considering replacing the entire hop up chamber as well.
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Post by kalbs on May 6, 2009 5:58:24 GMT -5
Thanks Maus. That sure helps
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Post by Obergefreiter Raimund on May 6, 2009 6:25:11 GMT -5
*with tears in eyes and in a sad, sad voice* But... but I want Low/Mid capacity magazines.
Yes, putting less bb's in the magazine would be alright. I think however I’d just prefer to convert a few magazines. So… on that note… since no one here thus far knows how to. I’m going to try it on my own.
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Post by sir veilance on May 14, 2009 21:48:04 GMT -5
With the help of our local airsoft armorer, here in St. Louis. I changed the barrel in my MP 44 to a K&M Teflon coated AK47 barrel. The barrel was about 1/4 inch longer and did not need to be cut down. We also swapped out the hop up rubber while we had the barrel out. We then cracked the gear box and put in a PDI 150 spring. It now shoots at 375 fps with .20's and is a lot more accurate as well!! I have to say though it was a real bear to get the outer barrel out of the receiver
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Post by mvalentine002 on May 17, 2009 12:42:25 GMT -5
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Post by Meisterschutze on May 19, 2009 15:12:42 GMT -5
Instead of using a H-Nub, use a SCS nub. Similar to the H-Nunb but drastically improves range and accuracy. BTW,to make the ROF more authentic, shouldnt a 7,4v battery be used? the Stg had a really....slow rate of fire.... AFAIK, 500 RPM...
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Post by maus on May 19, 2009 20:18:38 GMT -5
Just a heads up, RSOV has 1 pair of MP44 highcaps for 14.99. Thats 2 at 7.50 each. Shipping to the states will be a bit, but it might be worth it for a conversion to lowcap project.
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Post by Garrick Udet on May 23, 2009 20:44:30 GMT -5
I ordered one from gunner that showed up last week. Beautiful gun, some weathering made it look nicer. My only gripes are the with the screws used to hold the wood stock on, they need to be replaced with longer and thicker screws to hold the stock in place. I also had to shim the stock on the gun so it doesn't wobble. Minor stuff to be sure. I shot through the bag of bbs it came with today. Nice ROF and accurate, the hop up seems to be working fine. I don't have a chrono yet, but I should have one within the week and will post my results then.
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Post by maus on Jun 5, 2009 21:56:52 GMT -5
I ordered 2 sets of magazines from RSOV. They were 14.99 per pair. Shipping was insane, but I received them in 3 days. Thats typical service. Long and short of it was each magazine was 19.00.
The nice thing about them was they fit right into the gun and didnt fall out like my last batch of magazines.
Regardless, I have enough magazines to fill both the left and right side of my new MP44 magazine pouches.
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Post by Meisterschutze on Jun 21, 2009 13:28:12 GMT -5
Yooo! Can anyone tell me how to remove the inner barrel+hop unit plz?
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Post by kalbs on Jun 22, 2009 20:01:08 GMT -5
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Post by Garrick Udet on Jun 23, 2009 13:19:02 GMT -5
So I can finally post a proper after action review of this gun. I used it during two of the Festung Europa Scenarios this past weekend and think it worked great. It chrono'd consistently at around 436-438 with .2 gram bbs and around 387 with .25s Due to the event rules all guns shooting over 400 with .2s needed to be restricted to semi-auto only with a 50ft minimum engagement distance. On Semi Auto it worked beautifully, I have to put about 6-7 notches in the stock now The high cap issue is regrettable yes, but during the event we worked out an acceptable solution. Prior to battle, load and wind all your mags. When the mag you're shooting goes through all the pre-wound BBs, switch it out to another mag in your pouch. When the action dies down, wind all your used mags to get them ready to go again. This is a decent solution because: 1. No need to modify your mags 2. No need to try and measure out bbs 3. You're still swapping out mags just like anybody with a low/mid cap 4. No need to carry any addtional bbs with you. The downside is that once you shoot through what's in the tube and wind the mags, you get the baby rattle effect. Like I said this is a decent solution but not perfect.
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Post by Garrick Udet on Jun 29, 2009 18:08:07 GMT -5
TM Tracer unit arrived today and fits great! I'm going to test it out tonight.
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